More Than 10 Words

Long before he learned how to practice law, humor was how he survived. In this conversation, Ben talks about growing up shy and learning to use humor as a way to navigate rooms, relationships, and uncertainty. What started as a protective instinct — making people laugh to stay connected — slowly became a skill he carried with him into adulthood. Over time, that instinct shaped the kind of lawyer h...

Jamie Christensen spent 28 years in what she calls her own “war zone” — an abusive marriage that began when she was 18. When she finally left, she didn’t just walk away — she activated her entire ProVisors team to help her rebuild her life, from her divorce to her finances to her future. At the center of her healing were her rescue dogs, especially Frank, who once tried to break through a wall to...

After losing his sister to cancer, his father to abandonment, and his mother to addiction, Dave McLaren grew up without stability, protection, or a safety net. By his mid-teens, he was living out of his car — navigating life without financial support, guidance, or a backup plan. In this episode of More Than 10 Words, Dave shares what it meant to grow up fast in a world where survival often pushed...

Some people grow up with answers. Others grow up with silence. In this episode, Rod Hatley shares what it’s like to grow up without explanations — without contact, without closure, without the chance to ask why. He reflects on how absence shapes trust, how early experiences linger, and how those unanswered questions quietly influence the way we show up for others. What emerges isn’t regret — it’s...

Life doesn’t always follow the plan — sometimes it unravels right in front of you. But what if the chaos you’re trying to escape is actually the thing shaping you into a better leader? In this episode of More Than 10 Words, Cindy Flynn shares how family struggles, unexpected detours, and a firm-wide walkout turned into lessons that built a stronger business than she could have ever planned. Her st...

Dave Gieselman never thought he’d live past 25. Years of chaos in restaurant kitchens, fueled by alcohol and cocaine, convinced him burnout was inevitable. But free donuts pulled him into sobriety, and breathwork showed him how to calm his nervous system instead of destroying it. This conversation isn’t about chasing profit or building fast. It’s about the painful, necessary growth that comes from...