Tara Claeys & Aubrey Bursch
Mindful School Marketing
The Mindful School Marketing podcast discusses topics relevant to independent school administrators and marketers for K-12 independent private schools and camps. The podcast offers a mix of discussions and interviews with professionals both within and outside of the independent school community. We will cover the connection between mindfulness and success at work and at home, and how mindfulness applies to effective independent school marketing and administration. Co-hosts Aubrey Bursch and Tara Claeys conduct casual and meaningful conversations to help their listeners discover new strategies,...
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Jul 1, 2026
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134. Should This School Event Stay or Go? How Schools Can Evaluate Events and Programs with Miriam Stein 01.07.2026 39:35
Should This School Event Stay or Go? How Schools Can Evaluate Events and Programs with Miriam Stein Schools are really good at adding things. A new event, a new tradition, a new fundraiser, another community-building moment, and every one of them started for a real reason. The problem is that almost nothing ever comes back off the calendar. So you end up with programs that look successful from the...
133. How Schools Are Using Chatbots to Support Admissions 17.06.2026 41:05
We put a lot into our websites. The pages look good, the content is thorough, and we assume families will move through it the way we mapped it out. Then we actually look at the data and realize a lot of them are not navigating it at all. They are researching on their own time, often late at night when no one is at the desk, and showing up as fully formed applicants we have never spoken to. In this...
132. What’s Actually Working in Enrollment Right Now? A Conversation with School Admissions & Enrollment Leaders 03.06.2026 55:21
Enrollment looks different than it did even two years ago, and the pressure to figure out what’s actually moving families from inquiry to enrolled is real. The COVID bump has leveled off, parent expectations have shifted, and the mental load of carrying your school’s enrollment goals while wearing every other hat is not getting lighter. In this episode, I sit down with Marnie Schattgen...
131. Who Owns Retention? And Why That Question Is Hurting Schools Plus A Special Podcast Announcement 20.05.2026 28:28
Retention conversations tend to spike at re-enrollment time, but by then, a lot of the damage is already done. Families aren’t usually making their decision to leave in one moment. They’re collecting small data points all year long, quietly asking themselves whether the school still feels like the right place for their family. In this episode, we sit down together to talk through what&...
130. Your School Website’s Most Important Pages in 2026 and How to Make the Most of Them 06.05.2026 32:00
By the time a family lands on your website, they’ve already done their homework. They’ve Googled, scrolled your social media, and asked around the neighborhood, so when they finally get to you, they’re not really browsing anymore. They’re evaluating. And the pages they land on first are either going to move them forward or send them somewhere else. In this episode, we dig i...
129. How to Build a Parent Feedback System That Improves Retention and Marketing 22.04.2026 19:49
Parent feedback doesn’t have to wait until the end of the year when everyone is burned out and families have already made their decisions. In this episode, we talk about building a feedback system that runs throughout the year, so you’re catching issues early, not just documenting them after families have left. What we keep coming back to is the feedback loop. Gathering data only works...
128. Marketing Schools for Students Who Learn Differently with Alli Williams and Samantha Fleming 08.04.2026 43:16
If you work at a school that serves students with learning differences, you already know your marketing has to do things other schools never have to think about. The families coming to you aren’t browsing options. They’re exhausted, they’ve already tried a lot of things, and they need to know you’re the right fit before they take one more leap of faith. In this episode, we...
127. How School Leaders Can Beat Burnout with Brooke Carroll 25.03.2026 30:50
Burnout in schools isn’t just about being busy or overwhelmed, and it’s not something a day off or better time management can fix. In this episode, we unpack what burnout actually is, how it builds over time, and why so many school teams are feeling it more deeply right now. In this episode of Mindful School Marketing, we are joined by Brooke Carroll, principal, consultant, and coach at Acies Stra...
126. Is Your Website Healthy? A Technical Checkup for School Marketers 11.03.2026 29:14
A school website can look polished on the surface while problems quietly build behind the scenes. In this episode, Tara shares how school marketers can run a quick technical checkup to see whether their website is truly healthy. From page speed to mobile performance and broken links, you’ll learn the small set of checks that reveal how your site is really performing. Tara also explains which alert...
125. Mindfulness and Resilience for Today’s School Leaders with Jason Craige Harris 25.02.2026 30:51
In this episode of Mindful School Marketing, Aubrey and Tara sit down with Jason Craige Harris, a strategist, conflict mediator, and mindfulness teacher who works at the intersection of culture, leadership, and institutional life. Jason brings deep wisdom to the conversation about what it truly means to lead with steadiness in uncertain times. From navigating school crises to making high-impact st...
124. Marketing in Small Schools – Live Panel at the Small School Leaders Conference 11.02.2026 36:16
In this special live episode of Mindful School Marketing , we recorded a panel discussion straight from the Small School Leaders Conference. Tara and Aubrey are joined by experienced independent school marketers who are in the work every day, navigating small teams, limited budgets, and constantly changing expectations. We are joined by Lori Kriegel (Chief Communications Officer at Wooster School)...
123. Should Your School Say Yes to Vouchers? with Steve Salvo and Michael Christopher 28.01.2026 39:03
In this episode of Mindful School Marketing, we dig into one of the most complex and timely questions facing independent and private schools today: should your school participate in voucher or ESA programs. This conversation is especially relevant for school leaders navigating financial pressure, enrollment strategy, and mission alignment as school choice expands across the country. We are joined...
122. Doing Everything Isn’t the Job: Redefining School Leadership, Delegation, and Self-Worth with Rebecca Malotke-Meslin 14.01.2026 41:25
In this episode of Mindful School Marketing , we’re joined again by leadership coach and consultant Rebecca Malotke-Meslin, founder of Pleasantly Aggressive Coaching and Consulting. Rebecca works with early and mid-career women leaders in schools and nonprofits who are often praised for doing everything but rarely supported in sustainable ways. Together, we name what so many school leaders are qui...
121. Millennial Parents and AI Search: How Independent Schools Must Adapt 19.11.2025 25:23
As we wrap up the year, it’s just the two of us, Aubrey and Tara, reflecting on what we’ve learned from our guests and what’s ahead for schools in 2026. This year, so many of our conversations have come back to two big shifts: the rise of millennial parents as today’s primary decision makers and the growing role of AI in how families search for and evaluate schools. In this episode, we’re sharing...
120. Running a School in the Crisis Era: Messaging, Mission, and Survival in the Fourth Turning with Jesse Meadow 05.11.2025 45:19
In this episode, we’re joined by Jesse Meadow, co-founder and Managing Director of Schoolcraft Digital, where he helps independent schools across the country plan and implement marketing strategies that truly connect with today’s parents. Jesse shares how the idea of The Fourth Turning can help school leaders understand the times we’re in and lead with purpose. We explore what it means to run a sc...
119. Episcopal Schools Today: Leadership, Challenges, and Opportunities in Independent and Faith-Based Education with David Madison 22.10.2025 37:17
In this episode, we sit down with David Madison, Executive Director of the National Association of Episcopal Schools (NAES). David shares how Episcopal schools define their identity and communicate their mission in ways that serve both their faith-based roots and their wider communities. He offers insights that every independent school leader can apply when clarifying values, strengthening culture...
118. Upholding Your School’s Mission Through Inclusive Communication with Jan Abernathy 08.10.2025 36:20
As school communicators, we know how complex it can be to navigate today’s conversations around diversity, equity, and inclusion. In this episode, we sit down with Jan Abernathy, Chief Communications Officer at The Browning School and principal at Jan Abernathy Strategic Communications, to explore how schools can stay grounded in their mission while addressing sensitive topics in ways that truly b...
117. The Microschool Movement: Growth, Impact, and What’s Next with Whitney Retzer 24.09.2025 33:38
The microschool movement is gaining momentum worldwide, reshaping how families and educators think about learning. In this episode, we sit down with Whitney Retzer of the Microschools Network to explore how these intentionally small learning environments are redefining education. From pandemic-driven shifts to global innovation, Whitney shares what’s fueling their rapid growth and why so many fami...
116. Intentional Enrollment and Inclusivity with Dr. Tiffany Bridgewater 10.09.2025 34:51
Enrollment growth and student diversity do not happen by chance. They require clear messaging, intentional strategy, and authentic community engagement. In this episode, we talk with Dr. Tiffany Bridgewater about the practices that helped her school increase enrollment and boost student diversity, and how you can apply the same principles in your own community. Tiffany shares what worked in her de...
115. Turning Conflict Into Collaboration: Practical Tools for School Leaders with Bridget Johnson 27.08.2025 29:31
Conflict is an everyday reality in schools, whether it’s navigating project delays, managing stretched teams, or finding common ground across departments. In this episode of Mindful School Marketing , we’re joined by Bridget Johnson, founder of the Dean’s Round Table and Bridget Johnson Coaching and Consulting. Bridget specializes in professional development for student life professionals, and she...
114: Rethinking Fundraising: Smarter Strategist for School Advancement with Barbara Barron 13.08.2025 38:39
In this episode of Mindful School Marketing , we sit down with Barbara Barron, a seasoned consultant in independent school advancement, to challenge outdated fundraising tactics and explore more effective ways to engage school communities. From reimagining galas to building mission-driven collaboration between marketing and development, Barbara shares fresh, realistic insights for today’s sc...
113: Unpacking the Latest Enrollment Trends in Independent Schools with Christina Dotchin of EMA 30.07.2025
In this episode of Mindful School Marketing, we’re joined by Christina Dotchin, Vice President of Member Relations at the Enrollment Management Association (EMA). Christina shares a behind-the-scenes look at EMA’s pivotal role in supporting over 1,200 independent schools and 20,000 members through research, enrollment tools, and professional development. We dive into the latest enrollment trends e...
112: A School Marketer’s Guide to Generative AI with Jordache Johnson 16.07.2025 48:25
AI is everywhere right now, but how can school marketers and leaders use it to save time and increase personalization without losing the heart of their message? In this episode, we talk with Jordache Johnson, AI strategist and founder of Never Tech Behind, about how to integrate AI into your school’s systems in a smart and human-centered way. Jordache shares how schools can apply his signature ADA...
111: The State of School MarCom: Brendan Schneider on Trends, Talent, and AI Tools 02.07.2025 39:42
Brendan Schneider is back to talk about the real-world impact of his annual MarCom Society Salary Survey. As the founder and CEO of SchneiderB Media, Brendan helps schools grow enrollment through his Fractional Digital Marketing program, SchoolMarketingCRM, and as a leading voice in inbound marketing and the use of AI in schools. In this episode, Brendan breaks down what the survey revealed and wh...
110: Outsourcing School Success and Navigating Partnerships with Chris Pryor 18.06.2025 29:07
Today we’re joined by Chris Pryor, Founder and Principal of LeadTeam Partners. With over 20 years of experience in independent schools, Chris now supports school leaders through School Partner Connect, a community designed to help schools navigate partner and consultant searches with confidence. His work helps leaders stay focused on day-to-day operations while delegating with clarity. In this epi...
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