Iris and Grace
Milk Before Cereal
Milk Before Cereal (MB4C) is a podcast of conversations between Iris and Grace, two former college roommates and current long-distance friends. Here, we'll share life lessons learned throughout the journey into post-grad life, including reflections on topics like faith, work, family, and friendship.
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Mar 5, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 22: Single Bells Pt. 2 05.03.2026 48:25
3 years later, Iris and Grace revisit their conversation on dating and relationships. What does “the spark” actually mean, and should you trust it? How have our views on dating changed over the years? We talk about lessons learned about ourselves and the process—plus, an important life update.
Ep 21: The Great Lock In 04.12.2025 54:42
Crazy Rich Chaffin reunites for a special episode in Miami! Christy and Margot join Iris and Grace to discuss the hot topic of Q4: The Great Lock In. From dating to protein intake, find out what the four decide to take on for the rest of 2025. (This episode was recorded in late September, but Iris got really behind on editing out all the screaming.)
Ep 20: Back to School 14.09.2025 34:13
Grace and Iris catch up on life and share latest reflections on heading back to school (for Grace) and keeping up with the studies (for Iris) amidst changing life seasons.
Ep 19: Habits We Make (or Break) 24.06.2025 35:22
Happy 26th Birthday to Iris! In this episode, Grace and Iris share about the habits they've formed in their twenties, both good and bad. Listen for mid-2025 life updates, what motivates us to build healthy habits, and how to break the bad ones.
Ep 18: Crazy Rich Chaffin 10.04.2025 25:39
Iris and Grace are joined by special guests Margot and Christy for this special episode—the Crazy Rich Chaffin reunites! The group shares silly superlatives, exposing our iconic college selves and reflecting on what still holds true today.
Ep 17: Falling for Q 13.02.2025 45:07
In the spirit of Valentines Day, Grace and Iris deepen their friendship by answering "The 36 Questions That Lead to Love," including: What is your most treasured memory? What roles do love and affection play in your life? (And, most importantly,) Do you have a secret hunch about how you will die?
Ep 16: Eye of the Beholder 14.11.2024 40:57
In this episode, we explore the art of finding beauty beyond the surface. How do we discern what's truly beautiful and what does it look like to pursue beauty in our everyday lives? We talking about finding joy in the journey of creating, finding value in imperfection, and our favorite Thanksgiving foods.
Ep 15: Peeling the Onion 10.09.2024 47:41
Today, we have a special guest: Calvin, our official unofficial Podcast Manager! Iris, Grace, and Calvin sit down to chat about Inside Out and all things emotions—connections between joy and anxiety, rumination, resiliency, and cultural expressions of emotion. Also, our suggestions for new Inside Out 3 characters.
Ep 14: Work Hard, Pray Hard 10.07.2024 38:36
Recording together in Chicago, Iris and Grace sit down to talk about the definition of success, generational differences in approaches to work, and whether it's possible to achieve true work-life balance, or if that's even something we should be pursuing. Also in this episode: planes, Ecclesiastes, and quarter life crises.
Ep 13: F is for Friends 20.06.2024 38:20
What's the secret to long-lasting friendship? Iris and Grace talk about the difference between meaningful and shallow friendships, navigating conflict as friends, and remaining friends through the inevitable ebbs and flows of life. Other highlights include: Overcaffeinated Iris Grace bashing on manatees Never-before-heard tea about our past friendshipfights
Ep 12: Shy Guys 09.04.2024 33:05
What does leadership look like as a quieter, introverted person? Grace and Iris share recent reflections on competency versus charisma, differences in communication styles, and growing beyond our comfort zones.
Ep 11: Do I Know You? 12.03.2024 45:28
Iris and Grace talk about a David Brooks' new book How to Know a Person, including topics like paying attention 100%, 8-second pauses, and the art of being deeply seen. Also, is cereal a soup?
Ep 10: Meant to Mentor 04.08.2023 36:46
Iris and Grace sit down in Christina's kitchen on a rainy afternoon to talk about mentorship. Halfway through, we realize the mic isn't on, so apologies for the audio quality. In this episode, we share about our experiences with mentorship, what makes a good mentor, how we can grow as mentees, and how mentoring is connected to discipleship.
Ep 9: Hope in the Hard Times 14.07.2023 37:07
After a rather long hiatus, we're BACK with an episode recorded... several months ago. This conversation features topics including handling criticism, maintaining hope in the midst of challenges, and some highlights from Grace's week in Korea.
Ep 8: Grow as You Goal 22.02.2023 33:07
It's been a couple months since the start of 2023, so we're sitting down to talk about our progress toward our goals for the year and what it looks like to pursue goals in a healthy way. This episode is all about personal growth, defining progress, and faithfulness through it all.
Ep 7: Our 2022 Wrapped 16.01.2023 36:48
As we jump into the new year, Iris and Grace spend some time reflecting on our favorite books, films, podcasts, and music from last year. Here's our 2022 Wrapped!
Ep 6: Single Bells 02.01.2023 39:25
In true Grace and Iris fashion, this episode is being released 5+ days later than expected, so merry belated Christmas and happy new year! It's the content you've all been waiting for—our thoughts about dating, singleness, and relationships. As your resident singleness experts, we discuss everything from finding meaningful friendships to navigating the exciting world of dating apps.
Ep 5: Gobble Gobble 24.11.2022 35:47
This fall season of gratitude has brought about many thoughts about processing change, nostalgia versus regret, and hope for the future. In this episode, we spend some time reflecting on the passing of time. To quote this episode, "life changes, leaves are falling, and Christmas is coming." Happy Thanksgiving!
Ep 4: Cultivating Community 26.10.2022 39:29
"Have you found a community?" We've been asked this question countless times since moving to new places post-grad. But what is a community, really? And why do we need it? In this episode, we ruminate on the core purpose of community and the changes we have experienced after college.
Ep 3: Where Do You Come From, Where Do You Go? 16.09.2022 33:56
One of their last conversations before Iris’ big move, today’s episode is all about travel. What lessons can be learned from moving, what good is there in staying put, and how can we be present in the places we visit? Also, birds and hot air balloons.
Ep 2: Spilling the Creativi-TEA 24.08.2022 37:27
Iris and Grace continue their life musings on the topic of creativiTEA. They talk about the challenges of pursuing creative passions, what creativity looks like in this new season of post-grad life, and how our creativity reflects the character of God.
Ep 1: Off to a Great(ly Belated) Start 13.08.2022 34:34
Welcome to Milk Before Cereal, a podcast where Grace and Iris reflect on life lessons learned throughout the journey into post-grad life. In this episode, they talk about approaches to seasons of transition, gratitude as a practice in joy, the meaning of life, and Pixar's Soul.
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