Peter Lehrman
Masters in Small Business M&A
Welcome to the “Masters in Small Business Mergers and Acquisitions podcast.” I am your host, Peter Lehrman, and I’m the Founder and CEO of Axial (www.axial.net), a trusted online platform for business owners & their M&A advisors to use to safely and intelligently explore and execute capital raises, acquisitions, and exits with strategic buyers or professional financial sponsors.
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Episodes
Lane Carrick on Founder Psychology, Deal Sabotage, and the M&A Emergency Room 25.06.2026 1:00:55
Today's guest is Lane Carrick, founder of Optima Mergers & Acquisitions, a boutique lower middle market investment bank he launched in 2024. Lane brings a “renaissance man” profile and personal story to the M&A advisory seat: he grew up in the Holiday Inn franchise business his father built, completed a leveraged buyout in his 20s without knowing it, founded and exited a wealth management...
Revisiting Private Credit and AI with Matt Plooster 28.05.2026 49:50
Matt Plooster returns to the podcast to deliver a timely update on private credit and specifically its deployment in the lower middle market. Despite lingering gaps in awareness and education among business owners and professional advisors, the overall picture is bullish on private credit’s continued growth and deployment. The bearish private credit headlines in the WSJ and Bloomberg aren’t repre...
Goodbye Partner Track, Hello “F2E”: James Bohannon of Belzberg & Co. 01.04.2026 53:29
Today’s guest is James Bohannon of Belzberg & Co., a family office with a significant history of backing lower middle market independent sponsors and leading direct investments. James joins Peter to discuss the emerging “F2E” (Finance to Entrepreneurship) category, where pedigreed investment professionals are leaving “partner-track” roles in private equity or investment banking to acquire and...
Eliot Kerlin and Broadwing: Principles over Playbooks 10.03.2026 51:02
Today’s guest is Eliot Kerlin, Founder and Managing Partner of Broadwing Capital. With 25 years of experience in the lower middle market, Eliot reflects on how the ecosystem has evolved—from fund sizes and leverage trends to seller sophistication and the rise of independent sponsors and family offices. He shares how underwriting, equity contributions, and operational involvement have changed, and...
LP First Capital: Behind the Impressive Rise of a Top-Tier Independent Sponsor 25.11.2025 48:43
Today’s guests are Thomas Ince and Logan Lowery, Managing Partners of LP First Capital, a top-rated independent sponsor that has closed 70 deals in just six years. Ince and Lowery share the origin of the firm’s name and dive into how LP First approaches investor alignment, capital structuring, and platform building. They discuss the nuances of working with a diverse mix of LPs, co-GP partnerships...
Furniture Industry M&A with Bo Stump 09.09.2025 58:28
Today’s guest is Bo Stump, a partner at Stump & Company, a family-owned third-generation M&A advisory firm based in Charlotte, North Carolina. The folks at Stump & Company are among the most trusted and respected thinkers and advisors on exit strategy and M&A across the entire furniture supply chain, from wholesale materials and manufacturing, all the way to branded goods and thei...
Nick Huber’s journey from college entrepreneur to RE Acquirer back to full time CEO; a case study in entrepreneurial private equity 12.06.2025 54:09
Today’s guest is Nick Huber, founder and owner of Bolt Storage and current CEO of Somewhere.com , a worldwide staffing business acquired in 2024. Nick joins Peter to discuss the formative acquisitions across his entrepreneurial journey – from growing a distressed storage portfolio into 60+ properties, to the $52M acquisition of worldwide remote staffing firm, Somewhere.com . They cover his transi...
From Apollo & Viking to the Gritty Lower Middle Market. Building Tucker’s Farm with Kyle Tucker 13.05.2025 52:18
On today’s episode, Kyle Tucker, founder of Tucker’s Farm Corporation, joins Peter Lehrman to share his journey from big league private equity and hedge fund land to creating a unique investment platform focused on roll-ups in the lower middle market. Kyle shares how early inspiration from Warren Buffett and experiences in private equity shaped his approach to long-duration, high-compounding inve...
Investing in Bootstrapped Vertical Market Software: A Conversation with Lance Fenton 10.04.2025 59:23
Today’s guest is Lance Fenton, a Partner at Serent Capital, a private equity fund investing in bootstrapped vertical market software businesses. In this episode, Lance breaks down Serent’s software investment thesis, how it evolved over time, and how they think about sourcing, returns, hold period, and the future prospects of these niche businesses. Lance shares how Serent approaches value creatio...
The Shifting EtA Landscape: The Rise of Self-Funded Search with HBS Professors Royce Yudkoff & Richard Ruback 06.03.2025 57:02
This episode features guests Royce Yudkoff and Richard (Rick) Ruback, co-authors of the Harvard Business Review Guide to Buying a Small Business, and professors at Harvard Business School (HBS). Royce and Rick have spent more than 15 years teaching Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition (EtA) and have witnessed the category evolve from a niche MBA pursuit into a mainstream career path for mid-career...
Hagan Kappler is building Daisy, a Rollup & Franchisor in Smart Home Services 30.01.2025 53:37
Do you love your home “IT and AV guy”? We didn’t think so. In this episode, Peter Lehrman sits down with Hagan Kappler, co-founder of Daisy, an emerging national player leader in home technology installation, integration, and servicing. Daisy has acquired eight companies in roughly 12 months, and is beginning to integrate franchise opportunities into the buy-and-build M&A playbook. The con...
Building a Consequential Investment Bank with Adam Breslawsky 07.01.2025 57:57
In this episode, Peter Lehrman sits down with Adam Breslawsky, founding partner and managing director of lower middle market investment bank Oberon Securities. Adam shares Oberon's origin story, detailing its humble beginnings, initial challenges, early clients and eventual growth into what is now a firm of 80 bankers across the U.S. The conversation dives into the intricacies of recruiting and r...
Start Local, Go National: Sam Rosati’s Journey in Commercial Fencing M&A 05.12.2024 40:32
In this episode, Peter Lehrman sits down with Sam Rosati, founder of Pursuant Capital and the original sponsor of Perimeter Solutions Group (PSG), to explore his approach to scaling a single commercial fencing business in the Tampa, FL region and scaling growth across the sunbelt stages through five acquisitions and meaningful organic growth. Sam gets into the unique dynamics of the commercial fen...
Building Garden City: Michael Arrieta on People-First Business 26.09.2024 1:00:25
In this episode, Peter Lehrman sits down with Michael Arrieta, founder of Garden City, to discuss his unique journey from a successful career in tech with companies like DocuSign to founding a people-first holding company focused on service-based businesses. Michael shares insights into his decision to leave tech, the principles guiding Garden City, and the impact of a values-driven approach to bu...
Ryan Sullivan, North Park Group -- the Ultra Long View on U.S. Manufacturing 15.08.2024 58:38
Today’s conversation is with Ryan Sullivan, Managing Director and Co-Founder at North Park Group (https://northparkgroup.com/), a Chicago-based private investment firm focused on acquiring and operating US-based manufacturing and distribution businesses for the very long-term. Ryan was a multi-chapter manufacturing operator and CEO and North Park Group reflects this operator DNA. He shares his...
Tom Barber on the Design of Winning Private Equity Firms 18.07.2024 52:38
Today’s conversation is with Tom Barber, Co-Founder and Managing Partner at SBJ Capital (https://www.sbjcap.com), a California-based private equity firm investing into the consumer and business services verticals. In this episode, Tom dives into how he and his team continue to build SBJ Capital, paying special attention to some of the firm’s most unconventional beliefs and organizational design d...
Marshall Lockton: from family business to family office to acquisition #1 04.06.2024 45:23
Today’s guest is Marshall Lockton . Marshall spent 15 years in sales, sales strategy and sales training roles within his family’s storied private insurance brokerage business ( Lockton ) before leaving to acquire his first business. In October 2023, he acquired Knight Agency, a specialized consultancy that helps organizations unlock performance by uniquely connecting a company’s purpose, story, va...
Rafa Quinn - Building A Diversified Lower Middle Market Holding Company 21.05.2024 56:23
Today’s guest is Rafael "Rafa" Quinn, co-founder and President of Alternative Holdings, a diversified holding company with subsidiaries in food services, retail, industrial sales, and business process outsourcing. Rafa’s origin story has already been covered in other podcasts, so we instead begin in 2011 with his first deal, an industrial sales distribution company in Panama. Rafa shares how that...
Private Credit Arrives in the Lower Middle Market: A Conversation with Bridgepoint’s Matt Plooster 04.04.2024 1:00:42
Today’s guest is Matt Plooster, founder and CEO of Bridgepoint, a boutique investment bank based in Omaha, Nebraska. We start the conversation with a background on private credit and its origins. From there we proceed to cover its growth, its arrival in the lower middle market, and how business owners can think about its features, risks, utility and applicability. We close out the conversation by...
Bob Falahee’s Founder’s Journey: 15 years Building SunPro Motorized Awnings & Screens from Day 1 to a Strategic Exit 19.03.2024 1:12:20
In this episode, we interview Bob Falahee, the recently exited founder of SunPro Motorized Awnings & Screens. Bob’s entrepreneurial origin story starts in Michigan, where he was a sales leader for a semi-truck trailer manufacturer. Bob and his family left behind the cold winters of Michigan for Florida, where he founded SunPro with $36,000 in seed capital. He went on to expand SunPro from a...
28 Years and Counting at The Top of the LMM: A Conversation with Mangrove Equity's Glenn Oken 31.01.2024 58:54
In this episode, Glenn Oken, Managing Director at Mangrove Equity Partners, sits down with host Peter Lehrman to discuss the evolution of Small Business M&A, from the late ‘80s to present day. The conversation starts with Glenn’s entry into the M&A scene, and the challenges and opportunities of closing transactions before the internet. Glenn shares his insights on the major changes in dea...
The 4 Types of Business Brokers and How to Win Them Over: a Master Class with Clint Fiore 02.01.2024 1:16:02
Today’s guest is Clint Fiore, a small business operator turned M&A broker and the President of Bison Business, a Texas-based business brokerage transacting in both Main Street deals and the lower middle market. Clint lays out his four different archetypes of business brokers, what makes them tick, and how private equity investors and SMB acquirers can best modify their approaches to successfu...
A hero’s journey: Mike Botkin and the OneOutdoor Holdings journey from start to exit. 07.11.2023 1:05:36
In this episode, Mike Botkin, founder and CEO of OneOutdoor Holdings sits down with Peter Lehrman. The conversation starts with the OneOutdoor Holdings origin story (hint: Mike was in bed at the time). Mike goes into how and where he sourced his first deal, how he structured the deal, and OneOutdoor’s strategic shift from residential to commercial landscaping businesses. From there, Mike reveals...
Due Diligence and the Art of Preventing the Broken LOI 10.10.2023 56:19
Today Peter Lehrman speaks with Emily Holdman, the Managing Director at Permanent Equity, about the intricacies of due diligence. The conversation delves into the importance of creating a powerful diligence team when preparing to sell a business, highlighting the roles of an M&A attorney and an M&A advisor. Emily also discusses the concept of internal diligence and the importance of forgin...
Family-Owned and Acquisitive: 7 Acquisitions in 7 years 05.09.2023 59:40
In today’s episode, Peter Lehrman sits down with Chris Gallagher, CEO of Gallagher Fluid Seals, a family-owned distributor and manufacturer of fluid sealing products. Chris worked in the family business on the factory floor in his teens and returned to the business after a significant chapter in strategy consulting. In January 2017, the company executed the next phase of its succession plan, with...
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