Cody Plofker, Connor MacDonald, and Connor Rolain

Marketing Operators

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Some call it the greatest ecommerce podcast in existence. Behind three behemoth brands stand three juggernauts of the marketing world: Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) & Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad). Finally, they’re pulling back the curtain to give you a never-before-seen look at what works and what doesn’t work to drive growth.

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Cody Plofker, Connor MacDonald, and Connor Rolain

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Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

Big-Swing vs. Incremental: Our Ecommerce CRO Testing Framework 07.07.2026

“All bad tests turn good and all good tests turn bad.”  How do you run ecommerce A/B testing faster without sacrificing statistical confidence? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) debate when to burn the current site down and rebuild versus grinding out incremental wins one test at a time. The answer depends on what you...

The Right Way to A/B Test Landing Pages on Meta Ads for Ecommerce 30.06.2026

“It’s not a test. It’s diversity for the Meta algorithm.”  Can running more landing pages hurt your ability to make decisions?  Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) dig into landing page optimization strategy, conversion rate optimization for Meta ads, and when structured testing is the wrong tool entirely. They cover what Jones Road learned from overdeveloping p...

How to 2x Your A/B Testing Output Without More Budget 23.06.2026

“We used to try to win every day. Now we’re willing to sacrifice entire months.” What does it mean to optimize ad spend when there’s no universal answer? Michael Ting (GM of DTC, JAXXON) joins Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) and Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) to challenge one of the most common assumptions in ecommerce email marketing and paid media: that there is a single optimized ad spen...

DTC Content Creation Process That Wins on Paid Social 16.06.2026

“The digital deliverables have outpaced production company knowledge.” How do you build a repeatable content creation process without hiring a full agency? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) break down how they approach content production across every budget level; ranging from $50k brand shoot days to $100 iPhone clips...

How AI Is Reshaping Ecommerce Growth Teams: HexClad & Jones Road 09.06.2026

“We’re not hiring less because of AI. We just expect each hire to be more productive.”  Is AI shrinking your marketing team, or just changing who belongs on it?  Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) get into how two of the most operator-driven brands in ecommerce are rethinking their AI marketing team structure heading into the second half of 2026.  The...

Meta Ads Catalog, TikTok Shops + GMV Max, and the Future of Creative 02.06.2026

Can Meta and TikTok Shop be combined into a single playbook?  Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) are fresh off the Meta Performance Marketing Summit and cover what the event signaled, where paid social is heading, and what most brands are still sleeping on.  They explain Meta betting big on product feed enrichment as the foundation for better AI-generated creat...

Live at Meta’s 2026 Performance Marketing Summit: Ads, AI & Audiences 28.05.2026

“There’s going to be a world where you just tell them your product and your business goals and they do the rest.” What does Meta’s AI push mean for ecommerce brands trying to win on paid social right now? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) recorded this episode live at Meta’s Performance Marketing Summit 2026 where they...

The Meta Playbook That Took True Sea Moss Beyond Nine Figures 26.05.2026

“You don’t have to be first to be the best.” What does it take to scale a brand from $20M to $140M in just 12 months?   Luka Kvatchrelishvili (CMO, True Sea Moss) joins hosts Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) and Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) to break down how he took a bootstrapped, product-led superfood brand … and scaled it into a nine-figure DTC powerhouse. Luka shares his path from prac...

Ecommerce Content Flywheel: Meta to TikTok, Paid to Organic 19.05.2026

What does a content flywheel look like when it’s firing on all cylinders?  Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) break down how their teams structure content creation end-to-end: from micro-creators and TikTok Shop affiliates to high-production studio shoots and ambassador programs. Both hosts bring their own playbooks to the table to compare notes in real time. ...

How to Get New Reach on Meta: Tactics & Data for Ecommerce Marketing 12.05.2026

Are you measuring new reach on Meta the right way or just guessing?  Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) dig into the tactics + measurement frameworks driving their paid media strategies right now.  The conversation spans Meta’s incremental attribution rollout and what the data shows. They cover signal engineering with c...

Most Underrated Growth Tactic in Ecommerce Right Now With Andrew Faris 07.05.2026

Drawing on over a decade of experience on the brand, HoldCo, and agency sides of DTC, Andrew Faris (Founder, AJF Growth) joins Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) to discuss what it takes to build and scale an ecommerce brand across every stage of growth.  The conversation covers what advice from larger operators can get wrong for smaller brands and why AOV may...

500% Growth: Inside Cadence’s DTC and Retail Playbook 05.05.2026

Can you build a sports brand by saying no to most customers?   Matty Martin (Head of Marketing, Cadence) joins Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad), to break down what it takes to scale one of the fastest-growing sports hydration brands from scratch. Matty shares how he went from setting up the Shopify site himself to leading a full marketing team; all while s...

Rethinking SMS Marketing for Ecommerce: AI, RCS & LTV 28.04.2026

What if the most powerful customer insight tool in ecommerce is hiding inside your SMS program? Mike Manheimer (Chief Customer Officer, Postscript) joins hosts Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) to dig into how brands are getting more out of their SMS programs. They cover what most brands are doing wrong about messaging frequency, how conversational commerce is...

Building a 9-Figure Baby Brand: Bobbie’s Kim Chappell (Chief Brand Officer) 21.04.2026

“If you’re not staying unhinged, you’re not building a memorable brand.” What happens when a two-time Emmy-winning TV anchor walks away from the newsroom to help build one of the most talked-about baby formula brands in the country?  Kim Chappell (Chief Brand Officer at Bobbie) sits down with Cody Plofker (CEO at Jones Road Beauty) and Connor MacDonald (CMO at Ridge) to explore what it means to bu...

Why Your Meta Campaigns Are Stuck Targeting the Same People 14.04.2026

Are you exhausting your audience or just exhausting your strategy? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge) and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) dig into the mechanics of reaching net-new audiences on Meta, breaking down which lever moves the needle most: creative diversity, signal engineering, or landing page strategy. They also revisit a Ridge case study showing how optimizing for the wrong purchase...

Your Step-By-Step Growth Framework With Bryan Cano (True Classic) 10.04.2026

This episode is brought to you by AppLovin. Get access to the Operators channel expansion playbook, online masterclass, and up to $5k in ad credits here: https://www.9operators.com/paid-growth  Or, skip the waitlist and launch your AppLovin ads today with our Operators-exclusive link: https://axon.ai/en/9operators  “Growth can actually kill a business that’s not prepared for it.”  Bryan Cano (fmr....

New Ad Accounts, Organic & Creators: Marketing Operators Hotline 07.04.2026

It’s a MOps Hotline special episode! Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) answer your most pressing questions. Especially how to get started. Connor MacDonald shares what he’s learning in real time from launching a new supplement company from scratch — no Ridge halo, no shortcuts. The trio breaks down why organic distribu...

Channel Diversification in Ecommerce: Biggest Mistakes & Wins 31.03.2026

What if the reason your channel expansion isn’t working has nothing to do with the channel? Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad) break down what drives channel expansion decisions. They use the David Protein bar lawsuit as a jumping-off point to discuss bold brand marketing and the frameworks behind how DTC brands scale b...

Salt and Stone’s Ari Murray on Sessions, Scent & Scaling DTC 24.03.2026

“The market will tell you your hero — you can’t decide it.” How do you build a brand after you've seen the inside of 30 others? Connor Rolain and Cody Plofker sit down with Ari Murray, Chief Digital Officer at Salt & Stone, who spent four and a half years as Chief Growth Officer at Sharma Brands before going in-house. They dig into what it takes to lead growth for a single brand after year...

Incrementality Playbook Every Ecommerce Marketer Needs 17.03.2026

Are you making decisions based on data that proves causality or just correlation? Connor Rolain (Head of Growth, HexClad), Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), and Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty) dig into what it means to build a truly incrementality-first marketing organization. They break down how to string together consecutive channel tests — using each result to build the next hypothesis rathe...

Meta’s Manus AI Enters the Chat: Is Media Buying “Dead”? 10.03.2026

Is media buying dead or just evolving? Cody Plofker, Connor MacDonald, and Connor Rolain unpack Meta’s integration of Manus AI into Ads Manager and explore what it signals for the future of paid growth. The hosts discuss whether AI-driven automation is making traditional media buying obsolete and what this shift could mean for ecommerce teams navigating an increasingly agent-led landscape. The squ...

Mattel & PDQ: Scaling Through Data, Checkout, and Customer Trust 06.03.2026

Mina Zandbar (VP of Global eCommerce & Digital Growth at Mattel) and Avi Moskowitz (Co-Founder & CEO) of PrettyDamnQuick, join hosts Connor MacDonald + Cody Plofker to explore ecommerce growth from two very different vantage points — one inside an 80-year-old, multi-billion dollar toy company; the other, building the infrastructure that helps brands stop leaking revenue at checkout.  Toget...

Category Expansion: When to Launch, What to Test & How to Scale 03.03.2026

Are your new product launches driving incremental revenue or just shifting money around?  Connor Rolain, Head of Growth at HexClad, and Connor MacDonald, CMO at Ridge, dig into one of the most under-discussed challenges in DTC: how and when to introduce new products into your paid acquisition channels. From HexClad’s cocktail shaker launch to Ridge’s tattoo-inspired wallet designs, they break down...

Episode 100! The Big Rocks We’re Focusing on for 2026 Growth 24.02.2026

How do you build a marketing machine that scales without breaking? In celebration of episode 100, Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CMO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (VP of Growth, HexClad) reveal the strategic priorities driving their brands’ growth in 2026 — straight out of their internal planning docs. From creating a bulletproof marketing operating system to cracking TikTok...

Performance Creative in 2026: What We’ve Updated and Why 17.02.2026

This week, the team breaks down how they’re testing creative and scaling systems. Volume still matters, but only when it’s paired with clearer concepts, stronger hypotheses, and better signal quality.  Connor MacDonald (CMO, Ridge), Cody Plofker (CEO, Jones Road Beauty), and Connor Rolain (Global Head of Growth, HexClad) revisit the playbooks they built over the years and walk through what’s worki...

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