Chris Achard and Christian Genco
Makers.dev
Chris and Christian build some software businesses.
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Chris Achard and Christian Genco
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Mar 11, 2025
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Episodes
105 "Just do it badly": Fear of Launching + Teaching to Learn 03.02.2023 47:37
Christian is about to launch thevideoclipper.com, but is feeling "The Resistance". Chris is learning linear algebra for his master's, and is trying to learn it by creating a plan to teach it. We talk about just "doing it badly" for both: and adjusting as we go.
104 Tech layoffs and how to learn AI 27.01.2023 53:58
Google did a 12k layoff. Chris started a new master's class about advanced linear algebra. Christian was on vacation, and was wondering the best way to learn AI in order to keep up with all the recent advances. He also helped his wife launch https://gymnastcode.com/
103 How to find consulting clients 20.01.2023 1:02:38
Christian is trying to find a few consulting clients to make some extra money. He's also made progress on the video clipper, and signed a new $99/mo account for file inbox! Chris just started a new linear algebra class and finished the gravity waves kaggle competition.
102 First revenue for the video clipper 12.01.2023 1:06:11
Christian launches a new podcast! He also got a first customer for the video clipper! AND he's also thinking about making more course content, so we talk about how much money can be made with technical courses. Chris is almost done with the gravity wave Kaggle competition. Also: How long is the coastline of England?
101 How to backup all-the-things 06.01.2023 1:04:11
Chris talks about how work at Google is different than a small project or company. He's also working on the gravity waves kaggle competition. Christian tries to figure out how to backup all of his projects and files, and how to promote the video clipper.
100 Dude, where's my email list? 29.12.2022 1:07:01
Chris is still getting used to his job at Google. Christian may have (or not?) lost his email list when a service went down.
99 Dude, where's my crypto? 16.12.2022 57:07
Christian has some bad news about crypto. Chris is still working on the gravity competition.
98 The Video Clipper 08.12.2022 59:10
Christian renames clips.marketing to thevideoclipper.com and is trying to figure out what he wants it to be. He also wonders if he should hire someone else to run fileinbox while he builds the video clipper. Chris is still working on the Kaggle gravity waves competition.
97 MeetingPlace shuts down, Musk buys twitter, and crypto crashes 03.12.2022 1:02:28
Chris found out that the person who bought MeetingPlace shut it down :/. Christian is evaluating whether or not he should go all in on clips.marketing, or what to do about it vs FileInbox.
96 When customer conversations feel bad 18.11.2022 58:40
Christian has a potential customer conversation for clips.marketing that didn't feel very great. Chris joins a kaggle competition about gravity waves.
95 Consultancy vs Software as a Service 10.11.2022 52:24
Chris has his first full week of Google, and also got his prize money from the Kaggle competition! Christian wonders if he should focus more on clips.marketing as a consultancy, or as a service, or just focus on FileInbox.
94 Freemium features 03.11.2022 54:07
Christian tries to figure out where his customers are coming from, and how to get more signups for FileInbox. He also is trying to figure out what freemium features are best for clips.marketing. Chris starts his first week at Google. (timestamps coming later)
93 $157.126 per hour 27.10.2022 46:51
Chris is prepping to start his new job. Christian got $157.126 per hour on his latest consulting project for Ali Abdall, and is now wondering if he should spend a lot more time on clips.marketing instead of FileInbox. 00:00 Intro 01:07 Prepping to start a job 07:51 Acornchat changes 13:20 Marketing ideas outside an app store 17:34 Consulting project for Ali Abdaal 24:01 RailsSaaS confe...
92 Getting a job at Google 20.10.2022 50:59
Chris gets a job! Christian talks about his latest marketing experiments, and wonders if he should start working on clips.marketing again. 00:00 Intro 01:28 Google Photos DevRel role 03:52 What about acornchat? 05:20 Compensation at FAANG companies 09:03 Salary negotiation 11:34 Hiring freeze 12:33 Using Google ads for FileInbox 23:13 Promoted tweet experiment 25:57 Education as...
91 Unexpected Google ads results 13.10.2022 52:11
Christian quickly bought a google ad for Chris (for acornchat), but there were some unexpected results that required a lot more tweaking. Christian is doing a consulting project and enjoying it, and is wondering how to get more projects like that one. 00:00 Intro 02:15 Dedicated marketing days 03:07 Buying google ads 08:45 Adding more documentation for certain install paths 15:37 Convers...
90 100% user growth and profitable 06.10.2022 1:10:52
Chris gets another customer for acornchat, which is 100% user growth! Christian is thinking about marketing for FileInbox using SEO, youtube, a new feature, and more. 00:00 Intro 05:55 2nd Acorn Chat user 09:18 Buying Google ads seems hard 16:35 Winning $5k from Kaggle 21:54 Twitter recommendations 30:09 FileInbox SEO changes 38:04 Youtube is underused for SaaS 45:34 File sending f...
89 Winning $5000 29.09.2022 1:09:31
Chris wins $5k from Kaggle! Christian fixes some bugs and picks up woodworking to fix his new organization troubles. 00:00 Intro 02:43 Winning $5000 in an AI competition 12:10 The hardest problem in the competition 24:41 AI master's class 32:15 AcornChat: why people switch 38:32 Motivation comes and goes 42:03 FileInbox bugs and features 49:26 SegMetrics Analytics 54:27 Woodworki...
88 10,000 Downloads + end-to-end testing 22.09.2022 56:47
We've reached 10,000 downloads for makers.dev! (a while ago). Chris has started his next master's class and is working on AcornChat. Christian is doing end-to-end testing with Playwright, and is still trying to figure out how to get better metrics for FileInbox. 00:00 10,000 downloads 00:54 3 redactions 03:29 Kaggle CTF updates 07:24 Learning things through challenges 10:43 Case studies...
87 Christian comes to Indy 13.09.2022 23:04
Christian came to Indy! Chris started his new ML class and is onboarding his first AcornChat customer. Christian tries to figure out a way to test dropbox file uploads. 00:00 Intro 01:28 Kaggle 4th place 04:04 AcornChat motivation 08:12 Case studies in machine learning 10:29 Christian's travels 12:27 How to test Fileinbox 14:40 File uploads to dropbox 20:14 Next steps for fileinbox Timestamps crea...
86 First paying customer 08.09.2022 1:07:51
Christian got married! Chris got his first paying customer for AcornChat. 00:00 Intro 01:24 First paying customer 07:32 Heroku is removing the free tier 10:43 Kaggle CTF competition 20:13 Taxes 24:36 Killing grass weeds 30:03 Next marketing thing for acornchat 39:48 💍🎉 Christian got married! 47:15 2nd customer migrated for fileinbox 51:43 Next marketing channel for fileinbox ...
85 Is DALLE going to take over art? + Business taxes 26.08.2022 44:47
Christian is in up state New York so he hasn't done much SaaS stuff this week - but he is preparing his business taxes. Yippee! Chris is recovering from being sick, so he's working on an AI security competition on Kaggle. 00:00 Intro 03:19 Kaggle DefCon AI security competition 15:07 DALLE prompts and AI art 22:40 Tricks to make AI art generators output a specific style 24:31 Systems to r...
84 What do you use for analytics? 21.08.2022 57:58
Chris got covid; Christian is in upstate New York, and wonders about a new marketplace project. 00:00 Intro 05:09 AcornChat feature requests 12:41 Marketing for acornchat 15:23 What do you use for analytics? 21:20 Outreach strategies 29:59 GPS Gold Medal 32:57 AI driving to the woods 39:28 Weird birthday project with artist commisions 55:15 FileInbox Timestamps created with h...
83 Christian loves TDD now 05.08.2022 54:16
AcornChat has real users now! Christian loves how TDD makes his code bulletproof. 00:00 Intro 06:58 Kaggle GPS update 14:09 AcornChat real users 15:33 Reaching out to users is hard 19:00 Analytics 27:50 MarketingChangelog ? 30:32 FileInbox work time 33:55 New features for fileinbox 35:16 TDD 41:45 Dropbox OAuth 43:09 File uploads and virus scanning 48:32 SEO links 50:03 H...
82 Face on a billboard 29.07.2022 53:48
Chris had his name and face on a billboard. Christian is pushing forward FileInbox stuff, and is looking for the next marketing task. 00:00 Intro 01:40 Face on a billboard 10:10 How to evoke emotion 11:09 Marketing strategies work until they don't 14:38 AcornChat trials 21:17 DALL-E 2 25:21 Kaggle GPS 28:12 Free shirt 30:01 FileInbox SEO 32:08 Live video chat widget 34:46 Nex...
81 Tired of Coding 22.07.2022 55:58
Chris is tired of coding. Christian has too many ideas and should focus on SEO. 00:00 Intro 03:53 AcornChat on Slack App Store 06:01 Developer advocate 11:42 Grass is greener 17:38 Three years 21:07 Controversial figures 25:07 Don't break the chain 27:03 Josh Kaufman's personal master plan 30:17 Therapy is great 30:42 SEO 39:44 Sending large files: Hot take 51:20 Rails vs s...
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