Chris Achard and Christian Genco

Makers.dev

Business EN ↓ 130 episodes

Chris and Christian build some software businesses.

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Chris Achard and Christian Genco

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Latest episode

Mar 11, 2025

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Episodes

105 "Just do it badly": Fear of Launching + Teaching to Learn 03.02.2023

Christian is about to launch thevideoclipper.com, but is feeling "The Resistance". Chris is learning linear algebra for his master's, and is trying to learn it by creating a plan to teach it. We talk about just "doing it badly" for both: and adjusting as we go.

104 Tech layoffs and how to learn AI 27.01.2023

Google did a 12k layoff. Chris started a new master's class about advanced linear algebra. Christian was on vacation, and was wondering the best way to learn AI in order to keep up with all the recent advances. He also helped his wife launch https://gymnastcode.com/

103 How to find consulting clients 20.01.2023

Christian is trying to find a few consulting clients to make some extra money. He's also made progress on the video clipper, and signed a new $99/mo account for file inbox! Chris just started a new linear algebra class and finished the gravity waves kaggle competition.

102 First revenue for the video clipper 12.01.2023

Christian launches a new podcast! He also got a first customer for the video clipper! AND he's also thinking about making more course content, so we talk about how much money can be made with technical courses. Chris is almost done with the gravity wave Kaggle competition. Also: How long is the coastline of England?

101 How to backup all-the-things 06.01.2023

Chris talks about how work at Google is different than a small project or company. He's also working on the gravity waves kaggle competition. Christian tries to figure out how to backup all of his projects and files, and how to promote the video clipper.

100 Dude, where's my email list? 29.12.2022

Chris is still getting used to his job at Google. Christian may have (or not?) lost his email list when a service went down.

99 Dude, where's my crypto? 16.12.2022

Christian has some bad news about crypto. Chris is still working on the gravity competition.

98 The Video Clipper 08.12.2022

Christian renames clips.marketing to thevideoclipper.com and is trying to figure out what he wants it to be. He also wonders if he should hire someone else to run fileinbox while he builds the video clipper. Chris is still working on the Kaggle gravity waves competition.

97 MeetingPlace shuts down, Musk buys twitter, and crypto crashes 03.12.2022

Chris found out that the person who bought MeetingPlace shut it down :/. Christian is evaluating whether or not he should go all in on clips.marketing, or what to do about it vs FileInbox.

96 When customer conversations feel bad 18.11.2022

Christian has a potential customer conversation for clips.marketing that didn't feel very great. Chris joins a kaggle competition about gravity waves.

95 Consultancy vs Software as a Service 10.11.2022

Chris has his first full week of Google, and also got his prize money from the Kaggle competition! Christian wonders if he should focus more on clips.marketing as a consultancy, or as a service, or just focus on FileInbox.

94 Freemium features 03.11.2022

Christian tries to figure out where his customers are coming from, and how to get more signups for FileInbox. He also is trying to figure out what freemium features are best for clips.marketing. Chris starts his first week at Google.   (timestamps coming later)

93 $157.126 per hour 27.10.2022

Chris is prepping to start his new job. Christian got $157.126 per hour on his latest consulting project for Ali Abdall, and is now wondering if he should spend a lot more time on clips.marketing instead of FileInbox.   00:00 Intro   01:07 Prepping to start a job   07:51 Acornchat changes   13:20 Marketing ideas outside an app store   17:34 Consulting project for Ali Abdaal   24:01 RailsSaaS confe...

92 Getting a job at Google 20.10.2022

Chris gets a job! Christian talks about his latest marketing experiments, and wonders if he should start working on clips.marketing again.   00:00 Intro   01:28 Google Photos DevRel role   03:52 What about acornchat?   05:20 Compensation at FAANG companies   09:03 Salary negotiation   11:34 Hiring freeze   12:33 Using Google ads for FileInbox   23:13 Promoted tweet experiment   25:57 Education as...

91 Unexpected Google ads results 13.10.2022

Christian quickly bought a google ad for Chris (for acornchat), but there were some unexpected results that required a lot more tweaking. Christian is doing a consulting project and enjoying it, and is wondering how to get more projects like that one.   00:00 Intro   02:15 Dedicated marketing days   03:07 Buying google ads   08:45 Adding more documentation for certain install paths   15:37 Convers...

90 100% user growth and profitable 06.10.2022

Chris gets another customer for acornchat, which is 100% user growth! Christian is thinking about marketing for FileInbox using SEO, youtube, a new feature, and more.   00:00 Intro   05:55 2nd Acorn Chat user   09:18 Buying Google ads seems hard   16:35 Winning $5k from Kaggle   21:54 Twitter recommendations   30:09 FileInbox SEO changes   38:04 Youtube is underused for SaaS   45:34 File sending f...

89 Winning $5000 29.09.2022

Chris wins $5k from Kaggle! Christian fixes some bugs and picks up woodworking to fix his new organization troubles.   00:00 Intro   02:43 Winning $5000 in an AI competition   12:10 The hardest problem in the competition   24:41 AI master's class   32:15 AcornChat: why people switch   38:32 Motivation comes and goes   42:03 FileInbox bugs and features   49:26 SegMetrics Analytics   54:27 Woodworki...

88 10,000 Downloads + end-to-end testing 22.09.2022

We've reached 10,000 downloads for makers.dev! (a while ago). Chris has started his next master's class and is working on AcornChat. Christian is doing end-to-end testing with Playwright, and is still trying to figure out how to get better metrics for FileInbox.   00:00 10,000 downloads   00:54 3 redactions   03:29 Kaggle CTF updates   07:24 Learning things through challenges   10:43 Case studies...

87 Christian comes to Indy 13.09.2022

Christian came to Indy! Chris started his new ML class and is onboarding his first AcornChat customer. Christian tries to figure out a way to test dropbox file uploads. 00:00 Intro 01:28 Kaggle 4th place 04:04 AcornChat motivation 08:12 Case studies in machine learning 10:29 Christian's travels 12:27 How to test Fileinbox 14:40 File uploads to dropbox 20:14 Next steps for fileinbox Timestamps crea...

86 First paying customer 08.09.2022

Christian got married! Chris got his first paying customer for AcornChat.   00:00 Intro   01:24 First paying customer   07:32 Heroku is removing the free tier   10:43 Kaggle CTF competition   20:13 Taxes   24:36 Killing grass weeds   30:03 Next marketing thing for acornchat   39:48 💍🎉 Christian got married!   47:15 2nd customer migrated for fileinbox   51:43 Next marketing channel for fileinbox ...

85 Is DALLE going to take over art? + Business taxes 26.08.2022

Christian is in up state New York so he hasn't done much SaaS stuff this week - but he is preparing his business taxes. Yippee! Chris is recovering from being sick, so he's working on an AI security competition on Kaggle.   00:00 Intro   03:19 Kaggle DefCon AI security competition   15:07 DALLE prompts and AI art   22:40 Tricks to make AI art generators output a specific style   24:31 Systems to r...

84 What do you use for analytics? 21.08.2022

Chris got covid; Christian is in upstate New York, and wonders about a new marketplace project.   00:00 Intro   05:09 AcornChat feature requests   12:41 Marketing for acornchat   15:23 What do you use for analytics?   21:20 Outreach strategies   29:59 GPS Gold Medal   32:57 AI driving to the woods   39:28 Weird birthday project with artist commisions   55:15 FileInbox     Timestamps created with h...

83 Christian loves TDD now 05.08.2022

AcornChat has real users now! Christian loves how TDD makes his code bulletproof.   00:00 Intro   06:58 Kaggle GPS update   14:09 AcornChat real users   15:33 Reaching out to users is hard   19:00 Analytics   27:50 MarketingChangelog ?   30:32 FileInbox work time   33:55 New features for fileinbox   35:16 TDD   41:45 Dropbox OAuth   43:09 File uploads and virus scanning   48:32 SEO links   50:03 H...

82 Face on a billboard 29.07.2022

Chris had his name and face on a billboard. Christian is pushing forward FileInbox stuff, and is looking for the next marketing task.   00:00 Intro   01:40 Face on a billboard   10:10 How to evoke emotion   11:09 Marketing strategies work until they don't   14:38 AcornChat trials   21:17 DALL-E 2   25:21 Kaggle GPS   28:12 Free shirt   30:01 FileInbox SEO   32:08 Live video chat widget   34:46 Nex...

81 Tired of Coding 22.07.2022

Chris is tired of coding. Christian has too many ideas and should focus on SEO.   00:00 Intro   03:53 AcornChat on Slack App Store   06:01 Developer advocate   11:42 Grass is greener   17:38 Three years   21:07 Controversial figures   25:07 Don't break the chain   27:03 Josh Kaufman's personal master plan   30:17 Therapy is great   30:42 SEO   39:44 Sending large files: Hot take   51:20 Rails vs s...

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