Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes

Maintenance Phase

Health EN ↓ 96 episodes

Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.

Author

Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes

Category

Health

Podcast website

maintenancephase.com

Latest episode

Jun 10, 2026

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Episodes

The Keto Diet 06.07.2021

So long, root vegetables! This week, we dive into the strange and surprising history of the 100-year-old ketogenic diet. Along the way, we encounter a Victorian bodybuilder, an infamous podcast bro and the possibility of a bad Meryl Streep performance (!). Get in, loser, we're counting macros! Support us: Hear bonus episodes on Patreon Donate on PayPal Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers...

Oprah Winfrey & "John of God" 22.06.2021

Special guest Kimberly Springer joins us to talk about an infamous, dangerous faith healer and his two — two! — appearances on Oprah's talk show. This episode contains, we're sorry to say, detailed descriptions of sexual assault.  Buy Kimberly's books: Stories of Oprah: The Oprahfication of American Culture Living for the Revolution: Black Feminist Organizations, 1968-1980 Support u...

Oprah Winfrey & The “Wagon of Fat” 08.06.2021

Do you have weird feelings about Oprah? So do we, and so does our guest! Kimberly Springer, co-editor of "Stories of Oprah: The Oprahfication of American Culture," joins us to talk about the rise of Oprah Winfrey and her infamous "wagon of fat" weight loss episode. Buy Kimberly's books: Stories of Oprah: The Oprahfication of American Culture Living for the Revolution: Blac...

Celery Juice 25.05.2021

Do you have viruses? Cysts? Cancer? Are you tired sometimes? According to Instagram, the  problem might be a lack of liquefied vegetables! This week, Mike and Aubrey take on a troubling taste test, meet a ghost with bad intentions and encounter the longest list of problematic celebrities we've ever seen. Plus, we start the show with an announcement: We're doing Patreon-only bonus episode...

The Wellness to QAnon Pipeline 11.05.2021

Special guest Mike Rothschild tells us how the road to wellness can be an on-ramp to a conspiracy theory. Along the way we debunk oil pulling, explore Instagram aesthetics and bemoan anti-vaxx argumentation tactics . Mike gets the date of the January 6th insurrection wrong and he is sorry. Mike Rothschild is on Twitter and you can pre-order his book here ! Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate...

Diet Book Deep Dive: Ed McMahon’s “Slimming Down” 27.04.2021

This week is our first  Diet Book Deep Dive, where we dig into some of the worst and wildest weight loss advice we can find.  First up: Tonight Show sidekick Ed McMahon's pun, alcohol and misogyny-fueled diet plan from the 1970s. Hope you like broiled steak and Sanka! Clips! Ed McMahon & Britney Spears on Star Search Ed McMahon for American Family Sweepstakes Support us:   Subscribe on Pa...

Olestra 13.04.2021

 In 1996, Proctor & Gamble launched an artificial fat substitute that promised all of the taste but none of the calories. There was just one problem.  Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links! Marion Nestle’s The Selling of Olestra Jeffrey Steingarten's The Man Who Ate Everything The 1996 Federal Register The Trouble With Fr...

Eating Disorders 30.03.2021

Fat people have them too! This week, special guest Erin Harrop tells us about one of America's most under-diagnosed and misunderstood problems. Along the way we talk about elbow bumps, Twitter etiquette and '90s sweatpants. Our content warnings are becoming increasingly threatening. Here's Erin's faculty page and a bunch of her research ! Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Dona...

Weight Watchers 16.03.2021

Get your flex point calculators and food scales! This week, Mike and Aubrey are talking about one of America's most iconic diet programs: Weight Watchers. Along the way, we encounter The Rock, the mating habits of straight people and a new James Bond villain.  Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links! Jean Nidetch, a Founder of...

The Master Cleanse 02.03.2021

Are your moods too stable? Is your face free of cold sores? Get your lemon juice, maple syrup and cayenne pepper ready, because this week we're talking about celebrity favorite THE MASTER CLEANSE! Along the way we roast New Atheism, praise Gwyneth Paltrow (!) and endorse garbanzo bean salads. Mike wishes to clarify that he adores Kate Bush and quips with the utmost affection. Support us:   Su...

Dr. Oz 16.02.2021

This week we're dissecting "America's Doctor." How did a smart, hardworking surgeon become one of TV's leading purveyors of junk science?  Along the way we debunk green coffee bean extract, raspberry ketones, conversion therapy (!) and a salad dressing skincare regimen. Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Link...

Snake Oil 02.02.2021

The world of dieting and wellness is full of so-called snake oil salesmen—but what IS snake oil? This week, we take a wild ride through the history of health scams and discover a startling twist about an everyday idiom. Along the way, Aubrey delivers fun facts about sanitation from memory and Mike roasts the state where most of his family lives.  Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal...

The Biggest Loser 19.01.2021

This week we dissect the content and impact of one of America's most harmful TV experiments.     Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal   Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links!  Aubrey’s article on The Biggest Loser   That's not reality for me': Australian audiences respond to the Biggest Loser   "Cheapening the struggle:" obese people's a...

Halo Top Ice Cream 05.01.2021

WE’RE BACK! A new diet ice cream is taking your grocery store by storm. But what even is it? This week, Mike and Aubrey talk biohacking, dieting for straight dudes and the extremely ill-advised "Halo Top diet." Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal   Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links! What is biohacking? The new “science” of optimizing your brain and bod...

Anti-Fat Bias 24.11.2020

To celebrate the release of her new book, Aubrey takes Mike on a tour through the statistics and debates surrounding weight bias. Anyone interested in body positivity, airline seats, 'skinny shaming' or the sugar content of melons is legally obligated to join us. Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal   Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Get Aubrey's book i...

The Twinkie Defense 17.11.2020

The Twinkie Defense has become a shorthand for disingenuous legal defense strategies. But was it disingenuous? (Yes, but not in the way you think!) Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal   Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links! Mike's "Victim's Rights" epis...

Moon Juice 10.11.2020

What's that Gwyneth Paltrow's drinking? It's MOON JUICE! This week, we're talking adaptogens, brain dust, hot sex milk and the wellness company that's taken L.A. by storm. Be sure to take your quinton shots before you listen to this one. Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate o...

Snackwell's Cookies 03.11.2020

They hit the market in 1992. Three years later, they were the best-selling cookie in America. This week, Mike and Aubrey dive into the low-fat craze of the 1990s and sample the snack that became the symbol of its rise and fall.   Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal   Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links!  How the Ideology of Low Fat Conquered America   “Eat More, T...

Fen Phen & Redux 27.10.2020

Fen-Phen & Redux were "the next miracle drugs" in the '90s, claiming to help people lose dramatic amounts of weight in just three months.  But within a few short years, they'd been pulled from the market.  They were just too effective! (Just kidding, they killed some people.) Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal   Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and mo...

The President's Physical Fitness Test 20.10.2020

The shuttle run! The flexed arm hang! The v-sit reach! These terms are seared into the memories of an entire generation of American schoolchildren. But did the President's Physical Fitness Test actually make us fitter?  (Spoiler: lol no) Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal   Get Maint...

What's Our Deal? 11.10.2020

Welcome to Maintenance Phase! In our first episode, we tell our origin stories and talk about some of the basic ideas behind the show. Here's where to find us: Aubrey: https://www.yourfatfriend.com/ Mike: https://rottenindenmark.org/ Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support us:   Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal   Get Maintenan...

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