Love in Lyrics: Exploring Relationships Through Taylor Swift's Discography

We’re back with another episode of Love in Lyrics, and this week we’re exploring Taylor Swift’s “ Clean ” alongside Phoebe Bridgers’ “ Motion Sickness .” Both songs capture the aftermath of heartbreak and relationship grief, but from very different emotional places. “ Clean ” feels reflective and surrendered, like someone learning how to let grief move through them. “ Motion Sickness ” feels sharp...

We’re back for Season 2 of Love in Lyrics and this season we’re adding a new twist! In this episode, we place Taylor Swift’s “Opalite” next to Maggie Rogers’ “Light On” and notice how both songs carry the same longing from very different places. “Opalite” feels like reflection after the storm, rooted in resilience and self-trust, shifting from inherited wisdom to owning your own voice and learning...

In the second half of our Season One finale, we return to some of Taylor Swift’s most lyrically rich songs that we couldn’t fully explore the first time around. From You’re On Your Own, Kid to Mastermind to So Long, London , we dig deeper into the lines that resonate most with our work as relationship therapists, and with the complexity of being human. We unpack lyrics about the fear of being “too...

We’ve reached our 10th episode of Love in Lyrics ! In this season one reflection, we revisit the Taylor Swift lyrics we didn’t have time for in earlier episodes and highlight the relationship therapy concepts that came up again and again. In this episode, we explore: How attachment styles shape closeness and protection The pursue–withdraw cycle and why couples get stuck in it Why protective strate...

Therapists Lauren Skuba and Paige Sutula explore Taylor Swift’s “Delicate” through the lens of attachment theory and emotional safety. What makes love feel risky? How do we build trust in the early stages of connection? A deep dive into anxious attachment, vulnerability, and the longing to be fully seen. For more information about Lauren and Paige, please visit their websites: Lauren Skuba, MA, LM...

Hosts Lauren Skuba and Paige Sutula return with a new episode of Love in Lyrics , diving into Taylor Swift’s “The Bolter.” Through the lens of Emotionally Focused Therapy, this episode unpacks avoidant and disorganized attachment styles, fear of commitment, and the protective strategies we develop when closeness feels overwhelming.  Paige and Lauren explore how early attachment wounds, emotional t...

After exploring longing and disconnection in Exile, hosts Paige Sutula and Lauren Skuba return with an all-new episode of Love in Lyrics, this time unraveling the layered confessions in Taylor Swift’s “Mastermind.” Through the lens of Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT), Paige and Lauren dig into the complexities of control, perfectionism, and the deep vulnerability underneath our efforts to “get it...

After a brief hiatus—spent presenting at a conference and enjoying the holidays—hosts Lauren Skuba and Paige Sutula return with a fresh episode of Love in Lyrics. This time, they delve into Taylor Swift’s evocative track "Exile," exploring its emotional depths through an attachment-based lens rooted in Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT). In this episode, they examine how sending subtle signals to t...

Join two Marriage and Family Therapists, Paige Sutula and Lauren Skuba for the next episode of Love in Lyrics, where we explore the infamous song, “You’re Losing Me” from the Midnights Album. In this episode, we discuss the impact of feeling disconnected within relationships. Through the lens of Taylor's evocative lyrics and the song's haunting production, we delve into the ways relationship stres...

Join two Marriage and Family Therapists, Lauren Skuba and Paige Sutula in this episode of “Love in Lyrics” as they break down Taylor Swift’s “Labyrinth” from her album Midnights . In this episode we discuss the dilemma of relationships and the stages of grief that can occur as we process the ending of a relationship and the beginning of a new one. Pulling in concepts from relationship therapy, Pai...

In this episode, Lauren Skuba and Paige Sutula, two marriage and family therapists, dive deep into Taylor Swift’s “How Did it End” from the Tortured Poets Department album. This episode focuses on themes of relationship endings, exploring concepts such as protective strategies, relationship patterns, and the process of repair within relationships. We explore how ruptures are an inevitable part of...

Join us, Paige Sutula and Lauren Skuba, two Marriage and Family Therapists, for our second episode of Love in Lyrics, where we discuss Taylor Swift’s song loml from her most recent album, The Tortured Poets Department. In this episode, we explore the human need for connection and discuss the patterns of communication that can lead to disconnection in relationships. We discuss concepts from the the...

In our first episode, we share a little bit about who we are, what brought us to do this podcast, our experience and training as Marriage and Family Therapists, and how we hope to explore common relationship dynamics through Taylor Swift's lyrics. We begin this exploration with the lyrics from So Long, London from Taylor Swift's new The Tortured Poets Department album and the relationship themes t...