Lucas and Jeff

Living On Common Ground

Society EN ↓ 52 episodes

Does it feel like every part of your life is divided? Every scenario? Every environment? Your church, your school, your work, your friends. Left, right. Conservative, liberal. Religious, secular. From parenting styles to school choice, denominational choice to governing preference, it seems you're always being asked to take a side. This is a conversation between a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist who happen to be great friends. Welcome to Living on Common Ground.

Author

Lucas and Jeff

Category

Society

Podcast website

www.gracemj.org

Latest episode

Jun 11, 2026

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Episodes

The Rip Current 11.06.2026

Send us Fan Mail The most dangerous water at the beach is not the wave you can see coming, it is the calm channel that quietly pulls you away from shore. We kick off a new series of short reflections by reading “The Rip Current,” then we take it apart like a real-life warning label: what does it mean when the hazard is subtle, the sign is easy to ignore, and your confidence shows up right when you...

Reflections from the Beach 04.06.2026

Send us Fan Mail The most dangerous current in your life might not feel like danger at all. Jeff opens a new series, “Reflections from the Beach,” with the story behind the stories: a community tornado that revealed what people can become for each other, a pandemic that turned everyday choices into tribal tests, and a church season where United Methodist disaffiliation fights and LGBTQ inclusion d...

A Libertarian Congressman Loses 28.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail Every part of life can start to feel like a walled-off camp: your work, your church, your friend group, even your news feed. We sit down as a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist who still choose friendship, and we ask a hard question out loud: if we met today, would we still be friends? A Kentucky congressional primary turns into a bigger conversation about political...

Values Make Friends 21.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail Every part of life can start to feel sorted into boxes: conservative or liberal, religious or secular, my people or your people. We push back on that instinct with a simple reality check: we are a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist who are also close friends, and we are not interested in letting the world tell us we cannot sit at the same table.  We start with the st...

If Humans Need Hardship To Grow What Should We Choose 14.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail We step into a topic that might irritate people if it’s handled carelessly, so we try to handle it with precision. We explore an idea drawn from historian Tom Holland’s work on Greek culture: even in societies that appear politically male-dominated, women often served as the recognized link between humans and the gods through temples, priestesses, and oracles. That opens a broader...

The Loneliness You Keep Avoiding 07.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail Life can feel like it’s been chopped into competing categories: church or secular, left or right, friends or enemies, work or rest. We start from that tension and then zoom in on a quieter divide most of us live with every day: the gap between how busy we claim to be and how distracted we actually are. We talk honestly about American hustle culture, why “I’m slammed” can become a...

History Is A Story We Keep Editing 30.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail Life can feel like it’s been split into rival camps: your job vs your faith, your friends vs your politics, your values vs your tribe. We’re not interested in pretending those differences don’t exist. We’re interested in proving they don’t have to end real friendship. We’re a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist who actually like each other, and we start with the uncom...

Jesus Heals A Kid And Then Ruins The Vibe 23.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail Every corner of life now feels like a forced choice: left or right, religious or secular, “our side” or “their side.” We don’t buy that those are the only options, and we’re testing that belief the only way we know how: two friends with clashing labels, a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist, trying to talk like actual humans. A simple question kicks it off: why would...

Unlearning Certainty - Revisiting our Conversation with Peter Enns 16.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail In August last year we had the opportunity to sit down and have a converation with Peter Enns. Peter's insights regarding certainty have inspired much of Jeff's work. We decided to share that conversation with you again. Enjoy. Every day feels like a forced-choice quiz: left or right, religious or secular, believer or skeptic, my people or your people. We want a differen...

Who Gets To Decide What A Good Life Looks Like 09.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail Life can feel like it’s been chopped into rival zones: work, church, school, online, each one demanding you declare a side. We’re two friends who don’t fit the usual pairing a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist and we keep testing a simple question: can you stay close without surrendering your convictions? We start by revisiting Stoicism, and why the modern “neo-Stoi...

Neo Values 02.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail Every part of life can feel like it comes with a forced choice: left or right, religious or secular, your people or their people. We sit down as a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist who are also close friends, and we ask a risky question right up front: if we met today, would we still choose each other in a culture built to split us apart?  From Holy Week and Palm Su...

What Do You Hear When I Speak 26.03.2026

Send us Fan Mail “Steinbeck was a communist.” It’s a throwaway line until you realize how much heat a single label can carry and how fast it can rewrite what we think the other person meant. We’re two friends who disagree for a living, a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist, and we use a John Steinbeck debate to test whether curiosity can beat reflex, and whether listening can beat the...

A Conversation with Steve Ghikadis 19.03.2026

Send us Fan Mail It’s hard to stay close to people when every space in your life demands a label and a side. Church, work, family, politics, online life, even your friend group can start to feel like separate worlds with separate rules. We sit down with Steve Ghikadis, a secular humanist and atheist married to a Christian, to talk about what it really takes to build common ground without watering...

Awareness Without Understanding Is Not Wisdom 12.03.2026

Send us Fan Mail Division sells, but it also shrinks our minds. We sat down—progressive Christian and conservative atheist, still close friends—to ask why outrage feels so good, why it changes so little, and how we can teach our kids to seek depth instead of dopamine. A local student walkout becomes our lens: what motivates teens to protest, when slogans help or harm, and how to support conviction...

We Don’t Need To Agree On God To Live Well Together 05.03.2026

Send us Fan Mail Feeling stuck between faith and skepticism, reason and ritual? We open the door to a different way through. Two friends—a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist—set aside purity tests to ask a harder, better question: if belief is what you act out, how should you live? We dig into Jordan Peterson’s “I act as if God exists,” not to idolize a quote but to probe its ethical...

Megachurches or Progressive Pews 26.02.2026

Send us Fan Mail Feeling squeezed into a side? We are too. This conversation pairs a progressive Christian with a conservative atheist who’ve stayed close friends, even as the world begs us to sort, label, and cancel. We start with a striking claim from a Durham campus: progressive churches with welcome signs aren’t drawing students, while a megachurch outside town is bussing them in. That observa...

Striving, Resentment, And The Path That Keeps Us Human 19.02.2026

Send us Fan Mail Feeling forced to pick a side? We chose friendship instead. A progressive Christian and a conservative atheist sit down to make sense of judgment, grace, and the strange way big ideals can both guide and haunt us. Using Jordan Peterson’s Sermon on the Mount lectures as a shared springboard, we reframe familiar teachings through psychology: the measure you use will be used on you,...

How Hanging Out With Everyone Can Save Us 12.02.2026

Send us Fan Mail Ever feel like belonging now requires an enemy list? We sat down as longtime friends—a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist—to push back on that reflex and ask a harder question: what would it take to build a community that includes both the marginalized and the establishment without creating new outcasts? Starting from the subversive image of Jesus sharing tables with...

When Rules Erode And Armies Obey Men, Republics Learn To Love Kings 05.02.2026

Send us Fan Mail What makes a people trade a messy republic for the promise of a single, steady hand? We take you inside Rome’s long unraveling—where unwritten rules cracked, armies switched their loyalties from the state to ambitious men, and everyday citizens learned to equate strong leadership with survival. Starting with mos maiorum, the “way we do things,” we unpack how norms sustained Rome w...

Can Invitation Beat Outrage As A Path To Change 29.01.2026

Send us Fan Mail Feeling squeezed to pick a side? We’re two longtime friends—a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist—who refuse the script and get honest about how change actually happens. Instead of scoring points against “the other,” we explore why declaring what we’re for creates room for unlikely allies, better policy, and more durable wins. We cue up Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Hav...

When Ideas Evolve, Do We? 22.01.2026

Send us Fan Mail Start with a simple question: when your world divides you into teams, how do you stay friends across the line? We stress-test that question by putting our own friendship on the table—a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist—and then follow the thread from art museums to ancient theology to modern Stoicism. The journey is winding, but it holds together: what you focus on,...

You Can Debate Politics Without Making Each Other The Enemy 15.01.2026

Send us Fan Mail Division sells, but it doesn’t solve much. We sat down—one progressive Christian, one conservative atheist—and stress-tested whether two people who disagree on faith and politics can talk through fear, foreign policy, and identity without turning each other into enemies. The short answer: yes, if we swap hot takes for honest motives and keep the relationship above the scoreboard....

When Do Rights Require Others’ Labor 08.01.2026

Send us Fan Mail Feeling squeezed to “pick a side” on every issue? We pull the lens back and ask a deeper question: what is a right, and what do we owe each other to make it real? With Elena joining the table, we test our friendship across belief lines—a progressive Christian, a conservative atheist, and a listener who pushes hard on language and policy—to map the territory between personal libert...

We Don’t Know K‑Pop, But We Know Prime Rib 01.01.2026

Send us Fan Mail Feeling tugged to pick a side—left or right, secular or religious, old school or ultra-online? We start the year by stress-testing a simple idea: friendship can thrive across deep differences. On one mic, a progressive Christian. On the other, a conservative atheist. What keeps us laughing, learning, and listening when the world rewards outrage? We warm up with Rose Bowl nostalgia...

Energy, Logos, And A Baby In Bethlehem 25.12.2025

Send us Fan Mail What if Christmas isn’t magic from far away, but matter aligning with love right here? We open with holiday greetings and step into a reimagined Nativity that holds science and faith together. Starting from the Big Bang and the birth of consciousness, we explore the logos as the universe’s deep pattern—energy organizing toward truth, beauty, justice, and love—and we ask what chang...

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