Legal Spirits
Legal Spirits
Mattone Center for Law and Religion at St. John's Law
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Oct 6, 2026
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Legal Spirits 083: Tradition and the Constitution 06.10.2026 32:21
Mark welcomes back his friend and former colleague, Professor Marc DeGirolami of the Catholic University of America, for a conversation about Marc’s new book, The Constitution of Practice . Drawing on questions they have discussed and debated for years, Mark and Marc explore the case for constitutional traditionalism, how it differs from originalism, and what the Supreme Court’s turn to “history a...
Legal Spirits 082: A Short Take on a Tomb in Sicily and a Never-Ending Contest 09.09.2026
The Tomb of Frederick II in Palermo Cathedral In this Legal Spirits Short Take, Center Director Mark Movsesian reflects on his recent visit to Sicily and the 13th-century tomb of Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor, King of Sicily, and the famous Stupor Mundi —the “Wonder of the World”—in Palermo Cathedral. Medieval Sicily was a major theater in the long struggle between popes and secular rulers over...
Legal Spirits 081: Who Chooses the Bishops? Armenia’s Church-State Crisis 31.08.2026 36:23
Catholicos Karekin II ( OC Media ) In this episode of Legal Spirits , Center Director Mark Movsesian speaks with Professor Arman Tatoyan of the American University of Armenia about a controversy involving the Armenian Apostolic Church and the government of Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan. The dispute centers on a civil-court order requiring the Church to allow a bishop to continue serving as dioces...
Legal Spirits 080: A Short Take on Religious Objections to New York’s Assisted-Suicide Law 29.07.2026 9:00
Photo: Becket In this Legal Spirits Short Take, Center Director Mark Movsesian discusses a new federal lawsuit challenging New York’s Medical Aid in Dying Act. Catholic healthcare providers argue that the state’s statutory regime will require them to counsel patients about medically assisted suicide, even though their religious commitments prohibit them from participating in the practice. New York...
Legal Spirits 079: A Short Take on Coffee Shops and Political Combat 29.06.2026
Poetica Coffee in Brooklyn In this Legal Spirits Short Take, Mattone Center Director Mark Movsesian discusses the recent controversy involving Congressman Dan Goldman and a Brooklyn coffee shop that reportedly said it would have refused him service because of his support for Israel. Was this illegal discrimination based on religion, or a refusal of service based on politics? What does this episode...
Legal Spirits 078: A Short Take on Religion in the Military 11.06.2026 6:18
The Defense Department recently created a controversy by revising its list of religious affiliation codes for service members and failing to designate the LDS Church as Christian. After objections, DOD removed the Christian designation from the list altogether. In this Legal Spirits Short Take, Center Director Mark Movsesian explains how the episode reveals a deeper problem of liberalism in a reli...
Legal Spirits 077: Dignity in Judgment 22.04.2026 31:00
In this episode of Legal Spirits , I speak with Andrea Pin about his new book, Dignity in Judgment , and the role of human dignity in contemporary constitutional law. We explore competing understandings of dignity—a secular, autonomy-based view and a more communal conception influenced by religious traditions—and consider how courts choose between them. Along the way, we discuss why the secular vi...
Legal Spirits 076: A Short Take on Chiles v. Salazar 02.04.2026
Therapist Kaley Chiles at the Supreme Court ( CSPAN ) In this short take, Mark Movsesian looks at the Supreme Court’s 8-1 decision this week in Chiles v. Salazar , involving a Christian therapist who challenged Colorado’s ban on so-called conversion therapy for minors. Formally, Chiles is not a free exercise case. But religion is clearly in the background—a reminder that law-and-religion controver...
Legal Spirits 075: A Short Take on the Louisiana 10 Commandments Case 04.03.2026 6:02
Louisiana Authorities Announce the New 10 Commandments Policy ( CNN ) A couple of weeks ago, the en banc 5th Circuit vacated on ripeness grounds a lower court ruling that Louisiana’s law requiring placement of the 10 Commandments in public school classrooms violates the Establishment Clause. In this short take, Mattone Center Director Mark Movsesian explains what the case is all about, and t...
Legal Spirits 074: Religion and the State in Japan 10.02.2026 33:19
Nearly eighty years after Japan adopted constitutional provisions separating religion and the state, Japanese courts continue to grapple with a question familiar to American lawyers: how to enforce separation without severing law from history, tradition, and social practice. In this episode of Legal Spirits , Mark Movsesian speaks with Professor Eiichiro Takahata of Nihon University about the Japa...
Legal Spirits 073: A Short Take on the Minnesota Church Protest 27.01.2026 6:28
Cities Church ( MPR News ) In this episode—the first in a new series of Legal Spirits law-and-religion short takes—Mattone Center Director Mark Movsesian offers an initial assessment of the recent anti-ICE protest at Cities Church in Minnesota. He explains what is known so far, the legal issues the episode raises, and why those issues matter beyond this particular controversy. Whatever the merits...
Legal Spirits 072: Religion at the “Constitutional Court of Europe” 20.01.2026
In this episode, Mattone Center Director Mark Movsesian speaks with Judge Ioannis Ktistakis of the European Court of Human Rights about his career as an advocate, scholar, and international judge, and about emerging religious-freedom challenges facing Europe. They explore the role of the European Court—which Judge Ktistakis describes as “the Constitutional Court of Europe”—and examine how it suppo...
Legal Spirits 071: Jefferson, Wine, and the Wall of Separation 30.09.2025
Thomas Jefferson’s 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists—better known for its reference to a “wall of separation” between church and state—was little remembered until Chief Justice Morrison Waite revived it in Reynolds v. United States (1879). With the help of historian George Bancroft, Waite transformed Jefferson’s passing metaphor into a constitutional principle, despite Jefferson’s limited role i...
Legal Spirits 070: Religion & Realism: The New US Role in Armenia 03.09.2025 31:10
Map: The Conversation In Episode 70 of Legal Spirits , Center Director Mark Movsesian speaks with Dan Harre, Deputy Director of Save Armenia , about a significant—and controversial—draft agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Brokered last month at the White House, the terms reflect a major realignment in the region: Armenia relinquishes any claim to Nagorno Karabakh, Azerbaijan backs off ear...
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