Chai & Conversation
Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation teaches you conversational Persian in a fun and casual manner in weekly lessons of about 15-20 minutes each. Check out our website chaiandconversation.com for more information.
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Jul 5, 2026
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Interview | Comedian Neema Naz on Iranian Parents, Comedic Hustle, and Finding His Voice 14.05.2025 36:58
In this episode of Growing Up Irooni , I sit down with Neema Naz—comedian, content creator, and the internet’s favorite Persian son—to talk about his rise from Scarborough’s multicultural neighborhood to international stages. Neema shares how being the “funny kid” at family gatherings led to his career in comedy, why his Iranian identity is core to his storytelling, and how his whole family (espec...
Interview | Gissou Nia, Human Rights Lawyer, on Justice, Diaspora Identity, and the Power of Speaking Up 30.04.2025 1:14:54
Growing Up Irooni - Gissou Nia, Human Rights Lawyer, on Justice, Diaspora Identity, and the Power of Speaking Up In this episode, Leyla talks with Gissou Nia, a leading international human rights lawyer and Director of the Strategic Litigation Project at the Atlantic Council. Gissou shares her journey from growing up Iranian-American in New Jersey to taking on some of the world’s most urgent human...
Interview | Babak Tafreshi on the Magic of the Night Sky 20.03.2025 53:02
Babak Tafreshi is an incredibly inspiring Iranian photographer, science journalist and amateur astronomer. He got his start photographing in Iran, but has since moved to the United States. He is the creator and director of The World At Night, an international program in which photographers from around the world capture images of night skies as seen above notable landmarks of the planet.
Interview | Naz Deravian on how she became the sabzé lady 05.03.2025 25:08
In this episode, Leyla sits down with Naz Deravian, the wonderful author of the cookbook Bottom of the Pot, to discuss how she started the tradition of growing sabzé for Nowruz (the Perisan new year) along with her international group of followers. Growing sabzé is an integral part of the Nowruz tradition. It acts as the centerpiece for the table we need to set up for Nowruz. She'll be starting on...
Interview | Growing Up Irooni- Anna Eskamani and Doing The Good Work in the Face of Hostilities 20.02.2025 27:07
In this episode, Leyla sits down with Florida Representative Anna Eskamani, the first Iranian-American to serve in the Florida Legislature, to discuss her immigrant Iranian parents and how her mother's values continue to lead her as she's making big waves in Florida politics. Anna is a liberal politician in a sea of hostile Republican colleagues and now faces even more challenges at the federal le...
Interview | Growing Up Neem-Rooni - Jasmin Mozaffari, Director of Motherland, on Identity in a Problematic Time 31.12.2024 28:09
In this episode, Leyla sits down with acclaimed filmmaker Jasmin Mozaffari to discuss her short film Motherland , a poignant exploration of cultural identity, family trauma, and resilience. Jasmin reflects on her upbringing as a neem-rooni (half-Iranian, half-Canadian) in post-9/11 North America, the generational trauma of Iranian immigrants, and how her father’s story during the Iran Hostage Cris...
Poetry | Ibn Yamin's ān kas ké bedānad va bedānad ké bedānad, Introduction with Alan Eyre 23.12.2024 41:33
In this lesson, we introduce the poem ān kas ké bedānad va bedānad ké bedānad by Ibn Yamin and discuss it with Alan Eyre.
Poetry | Hafez's barafshān, Part 5 28.10.2024 12:47
In this discussion on Hafez's barafshān , we go over the last two lines of the poem.
Poetry | Hafez's barafshān, Part 4 21.10.2024 11:28
In this discussion on Hafez's barafshān , we go over the fifth and sixth line of the poem.
Poetry | Hafez's barafshān, Part 3 14.10.2024 11:22
In this discussion on Hafez's barafshān , we go over the third and fourth line of the poem.
Interview | Growing Up Neem-Rooni - Kaveh Akbar, author of Martyr! On Martyr, Trauma, and Collateral Damage 09.10.2024 1:24:40
Kaveh Akbar is the Iranian-American author of the critically acclaimed and heavily lauded novel Martyr! In our long-awaited conversation we dive deep into the themes of his powerful book, Martyr , which explores the human cost of so-called “collateral damage” and the real-world trauma often reduced to mere statistics in Western media. I had so much I wanted to ask Kaveh about the deeply personal a...
Poetry | Hafez's barafshān, Part 2 07.10.2024 18:27
In this second part of the discussion for Hafez's barafshān , we go over the first two lines of the poem in detail.
Poetry | Hafez's barafshān, Introduction with Fared Shafinury 30.09.2024 40:10
In this introductory lesson on Hafez's poem barafshān, we're joined by musician Fared Shafinury to go over the overall meaning of the poem. You can hear Fared's version of this poem in this track from his debut album.
Speak Lesson 76 | A Separation, Part 5 11.09.2024 36:26
In this lesson, we watch a clip of a heated conversation between Nader and Simin, the title characters of the movie. This is a fast paced conversation, and gives us a glimpse at a type of conversation we may not often be privy to in the Persian language. This is the final episode in our series on clips from the movie A Separation by Asghar Farahadi with guest Yara Elmjouie.
Poetry | Omar Khayyam's rendee deedam, Part 2 09.09.2024 14:50
In this follow up episode about Khayyam's poem rendee deedam, we go over the poem word by word, line by line, to understand each part individually. We'll also learn how to use the particular words and phrases in current conversation.
Speak Lesson 75 | A Separation, Part 4 05.09.2024 30:25
In this lesson about clips from the movie A Separation by Asghar Farahadi, we watch a conversation between Nader and Hojjat, Razieh's husband, about potential work Hojjat will be doing for Nader. We're joined in this episode by friend of the show, Yara Elmjouie.
Poetry | Omar Khayyam's rendee deedam, Introduction with Alan Eyre 26.08.2024 32:19
In this special shabé shehr episode, we are joined by Alan Eyre, the first (and last) ever Persian language spokesperson for the U.S. State Department. Alan has a little book with lines of his favorite Persian poetry, and he shares one of those poems with us in this episode.
Speak Lesson 74 | A Separation, Part 3 21.08.2024 30:56
In this lesson, we watch a clip of the movie A Separation by Asghar Farahadi in which Nader and Razieh have a conversation about the potential for her husband to come work for Nader. We're joined in this episode by friend of the show, Yara Elmjouie.
Poetry | Hafez's aybé rendān makon, Part 6 29.07.2024 9:14
In this lesson, we go over the last two lines of the poem aybé rendān makon by Hafez. The lines are as follows: حافظا روزِ اجل گر به کف آری جامی hāfezā roozé ajal gar bé kaf āree jāmee Oh Hafez, if you have a chalice in your hand when you die یک سر از کویِ خرابات بَرَندَت به بهشت yek sar az koo-yé kharābāt barandat bé behesht They’ll take you directly from the winehouse street to heaven
Poetry | Hafez's aybé rendān makon, Part 5 22.07.2024 8:12
In this lesson, we go over the following lines of the poem aybé rendān makon by Hafez: نه من از پردهٔ تقوا به درافتادم و بس na man az pardé-yé taghva bā dar oftādam o bas پدرم نیز بهشتِ ابد از دست بهشت pedaram neez behishté abad az dast behesht
Poetry | Hafez's aybé rendān makon, Part 4 15.07.2024 10:24
In this lesson, we go over the following lines of the poem aybé rendān makon by Hafez: همه کس طالبِ یارند چه هشیار و چه مست hamé kas tālebé yārand ché hoshyār o ché mast همه جا خانهٔ عشق است چه مسجد چه کِنِشت hamé jā khāna-yé ʿeshgh ast ché masjed ché kenest
Poetry | Hafez's aybé rendān makon, Part 3 08.07.2024 11:47
In this discussion on Hafez's aybé rendān makon, we go over the third and fourth line of the poem.
Poetry | Hafez's aybé rendān makon, Part 2 01.07.2024 15:48
In this lesson, we go over the individual words and phrases in the first two lines of the poem, aybé rendān makon by Hafez: عیبِ رندان مَکُن ای زاهدِ پاکیزه سرشت ʿaybé rendān makon ay zāhedé pākeezé seresht که گناهِ دگران بر تو نخواهند نوشت ké gonāhé deegarān bar tu nakhāhand nevesht
Poetry | Hafez's aybé rendān makon, Introduction with Persian Poetics 24.06.2024 39:33
In this introductory lesson to one of Hafez's most famous poems, aybé rendān makon, we're joined by Muhammad Ali of Persian Poetics to go over the overall meaning of the poem and give a bit of an introduction to Hafez and his significance in Iranian culture. In subsequent lessons, Leyla will be going over the word by word, phrase by phrase, to provide an even deeper understanding to the poem.
Poetry | Baba tāher's khoshā emshō, Part 2 10.06.2024 13:27
In this lesson, we cover the words and phrases learned in the poem, and how to use them in everyday conversation. Related links: khosh bāsh by Khayyam
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