Chai & Conversation
Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation
Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation teaches you conversational Persian in a fun and casual manner in weekly lessons of about 15-20 minutes each. Check out our website chaiandconversation.com for more information.
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Jul 5, 2026
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Episodes
Speak Lesson 66 | Tārof When Welcoming Guests 29.09.2025 29:22
In this lesson, we continue to explore examples of tārof relevant in situations where we have guests at our houses.
Culture | Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, Part 5 15.09.2025 23:29
In this lesson, we cover the thrilling conclusion to the Story of Zal in the Shahnameh with Leyla and Dr. Sahba Shayani, where Zal returns with Sam to their palace in Zabulistan, where he enjoys a hero's welcome.
Culture | Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, Part 4 08.09.2025 19:01
In this lesson, we continue our discussion of Ferdowsi's Shahnameh with Dr. Sahba Shayani to the fourth part of the Story of Zal, where Simorgh reunites Zal with his father, Sam.
Culture | Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, Part 3 01.09.2025 14:25
In this lesson, we continue our discussion of Ferdowsi's Shahnameh with Dr. Sahba Shayani to the third part of the Story of Zal, where Sam begins to have dreams that inspire him to search for the son he had previously abandoned.
Culture | Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, Part 2 25.08.2025 15:28
In this lesson, we continue our discussion of Ferdowsi's Shahnameh with Dr. Sahba Shayani to the second part of the Story of Zal, where Simorgh spots the abandoned baby.
Culture | Ferdowsi's Shahnameh, Part 1 18.08.2025 27:24
In this lesson, we begin our discussion of Ferdowsi's Shahnameh with Dr. Sahba Shayani. We specifically begin covering the first part of the Story of Zal in the Shahnameh .
Interview | From Oklahoma to Shahnameh: Daniel Nayeri, Author of Everything Sad is Untrue on Memory, Myth and Belonging 06.08.2025 1:28:15
In this deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation, Daniel Nayeri, author of the acclaimed autobiographical novel Everything Sad is Untrue , talks about growing up as an Iranian refugee in Oklahoma, the mythic structure of memory, and the stories we inherit—true or not. He reflects on what it means to carry generational trauma, how he began writing the book in a Brooklyn bathroom, and the long...
Poetry | Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, Part 6 28.07.2025 15:48
In this final part of our discussion of Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh , we cover the remaining lines, explaining how love transcends even existence on Earth and applies to the entire universe.
Poetry | Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, Part 5 21.07.2025 10:29
In this fifth part of the discussion of Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh , we cover the two more lines that describe the life-giving nature of love.
Speak Lesson 65 | Tārof at a Gallery 21.07.2025 11:37
In this lesson, we learn some examples of tārof appropriate for talking to older people and see some examples in a conversation at an art gallery.
Interview | Growing Up Irooni – Tara Grammy, An Iranian Take on Identity, Comedy, and Being All Up in Your Business 16.07.2025 58:13
In this laugh-out-loud and deeply personal conversation, Iranian Canadian actor, writer, and creator Tara Grammy joins Leyla to talk about growing up as an Iranian weirdo, navigating diaspora identity, creating her hit comedy series Soosi Lee , and embracing curiosity (aka being fusooli) as a cultural superpower. From getting discovered by Woody Harrelson in a tiny Toronto theatre to producing a D...
Poetry | Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, Part 4 14.07.2025 13:17
In this fourth part of the discussion of Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh , we cover the next two lines in detail, regarding the indispensability of love.
Speak Lesson 64 | Meeting New People 14.07.2025 26:02
In this lesson, we learn some more expressions we can use when meeting new people and a new expression related to tārof .
Poetry | Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, Part 3 07.07.2025 12:51
In this third part of the discussion of Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh , we cover the next two lines in detail, beginning to contemplate the importance of love to all human beings.
Speak Lesson 63 | Meeting Up with Friends 07.07.2025 31:46
In this lesson, we learn some useful expressions for talking with friends or people we know, especially people who we haven't seen in a long time.
Poetry | Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, Part 2 30.06.2025 18:23
In this second part of the discussion of Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh , we go over the first two lines of the poem in detail.
Speak Lesson 62 | Getting Attention 30.06.2025 14:53
In this lesson, we learn a new way to call attention to someone and how to return a lost item.
Poetry | Nizami Ganjavi's sokhanee chand dar eshgh, Introduction with Dr. Sahba Shayani 23.06.2025 54:00
In this lesson, we introduce Nizami Ganjavi, an important 12th-century poet in the cultures of Iran, Azerbaijan, Kurdistan, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan who is also considered the national poet of Azerbaijan. We are joined by Dr. Sahba Shayani to discuss sokhanee chand dar eshgh , or “A Few Words on Love,” an excerpt from Nizami Ganjavi's Romance of Khosrow and Shirin.
Speak Lesson 61 | Meeting on the Street 23.06.2025 25:09
In this lesson, we learn some phrases that could be useful when talking to people on the street and how to talk briefly about some routine daily activities. We also introduce Vijay, his mixtape, and his YouTube playlist, which you can find here !
Culture | Attar's Parable of the Moths, Part 4 09.06.2025 34:26
In this episode of Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation , we conclude The Parable of the Moths by Attar, taken from his masterpiece Conference of the Birds . I'm joined by the brilliant Omid Arabian of YOUniversal Center , who walks us through the last 4 lines of the poem—exploring its language, imagery, and deeper meaning. This lesson is perfect for those with some background in Persian who w...
Culture | Attar's Parable of the Moths, Part 3 02.06.2025 24:14
In this episode of Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation , we continue to the third part of The Parable of the Moths by Attar, taken from his masterpiece Conference of the Birds . I'm joined by the brilliant Omid Arabian of YOUniversal Center , who walks us through the next 4 lines of the poem—exploring its language, imagery, and deeper meaning. This lesson is perfect for those with some backgr...
Interview | Growing Up Irooni – Yassamin Ansari, Congresswoman from Arizona, on Politics, Protest, and Persian Identity 01.06.2025 26:10
In this episode of Growing Up Neem-Rooni , Leyla talks with Representative Yassamin Ansari , the youngest member of Congress and the first Iranian-American Democrat to be elected. From growing up in a mostly white Arizona suburb to representing her diverse district in Washington, D.C., Yassamin shares her story of identity, community, and public service. We talk about her family's immigration jour...
Interview | Money, Iranian-American Identity, and Romance: Chelsea Fagan on Building a Business and Writing a Political Love Story 28.05.2025 45:49
In this episode of Growing Up Irooni , Leyla sits down with Chelsea Fagan—founder of The Financial Diet and author of the new novel High Dive . Known for blending personal finance with cultural critique, Chelsea joins Leyla for a wide-ranging conversation that covers: Why she wrote a romance novel with a Persian American love interest Navigating privilege, assimilation, and identity in immigrant c...
Culture | Attar's Parable of the Moths, Part 2 26.05.2025 32:13
In this episode of Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation , we continue to the second part of The Parable of the Moths by Attar, taken from his masterpiece Conference of the Birds . I'm joined by the brilliant Omid Arabian of YOUniversal Center , who walks us through the next 4 lines of the poem—exploring its language, imagery, and deeper meaning. This lesson is perfect for those with some backg...
Culture | Attar's Parable of the Moths, Part 1 19.05.2025 41:49
In this episode of Learn Persian with Chai and Conversation , we begin a brand new series on one of the most powerful mystical stories in Persian literature: The Parable of the Moths by Attar, taken from his masterpiece Conference of the Birds . I'm joined by the brilliant Omid Arabian of YOUniversal Center , who walks us through the first 4 lines of the poem—exploring its language, imagery, and d...
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