Athena
Leading Without Illusions
Leading Without Illusions is Athena’s podcast for leaders navigating the fast-moving, often misunderstood world of artificial intelligence. Co-hosts Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly bring candid conversations with innovators on what AI is, where it goes wrong, and how to lead with better questions, sharper judgment, and real accountability. Expect practical clarity on bias, trust, risk, and the human choices shaping what comes next.
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Episodes
Garry Ridge | WD-40 | June 01.06.2026 40:53
What does it take to build a culture where people genuinely love coming to work? In this episode of Leading Without Illusions , Holly Smithson and Jay Connolly sit down with leadership icon and former WD-40 CEO Garry Ridge to explore the principles that transformed a simple household product company into one of the world’s most admired workplace cultures. Garry shares the leadership philosophy th...
Kaye Foster | BCG | May 04.05.2026 49:23
In a world shaped by disruption, uncertainty, and accelerating AI adoption, what does effective leadership actually look like? In this episode of Leading Without Illusions , Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly are joined by Kaye Foster, Senior advisor at Boston Consulting Group, for a candid, unfiltered conversation on the realities leaders are facing today. From declining employee engagement and br...
Dr. Carlos Nunez | Resmed | April 06.04.2026 43:25
Artificial intelligence is moving fast—but is it really as disruptive as it seems? In this episode of Leading Without Illusions , Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly sit down with Dr. Carlos Nunez of ResMed to separate signal from noise in the AI conversation. From being in the top 1% of global AI users to leading innovation in healthcare, Dr. Núñez shares a grounded perspective on what AI c...
Dr. Stephen Morse | Unchained Solutions | March 02.03.2026 51:14
In this episode of Athena’s Leading Without Illusions , hosts Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly sit down with Dr. Stephen Morse, founder of Unchained Solutions, an Australian-based consulting firm focused on modern slavery risk in global supply chains. Sparked by a recent conference in Perth on battery minerals and the growing demand for critical resources in the AI era, the conversation explores...
Sean Harvey | Warrior Compassion | February 02.02.2026 52:55
What happens when traditional leadership models stop working? In this episode of Leading Without Illusions , Athena leaders Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly join Reverend Sean Harvey of the Warrior Compassion Institute to explore why many leaders—especially men—feel disconnected, burned out, and constrained by outdated definitions of strength. The conversation reframes compassion as a leadership...
Claire and Antony Roberts | Full Fathom Five AI | January 05.01.2026 39:34
In the launch episode, Holly Smithson and Jaye Connolly welcome Claire Roberts and Antony Roberts, co-founders of Full Fathom five, for a raw conversation on AI’s biggest illusions. They unpack why AI isn’t a panacea, what “hallucinations” really mean, who’s accountable when systems fail, and how bias can scale at speed. The throughline: modern leadership is questions, not certainty and curiosity...
Angela Pennella | Hugs in the Wild | November 2025 01.12.2025 27:38
In this episode of Lifting While Climbing , Holly Smithson sits down with “hug dealer” Angela Pennella to explore the movement behind Hugs in the Wild. Angela shares how intentional connection, nervous system awareness, and small acts of kindness can reset our emotional balance and strengthen our relationships. From the science of oxytocin to real stories from her travels, this conversation is...
Dr. Tina Rinker | Syantra Inc. | October 2025 27.10.2025 39:39
In honor of Breast Cancer Awareness Month, Dr. Tina Rinker —co-founder & Chief Scientific Officer of Syantra Inc. —joins host Holly Smithson to unpack a breakthrough approach to early detection: a simple blood test that reads the immune system’s signals rather than hunting for tumor fragments. Dr. Rinker explains how Syantra’s 15-marker panel can identify breast cancers at ~1 cm and...
Esther Mutuma | Boreka Group | September 2025 29.09.2025 30:35
From the slopes of Mount Kenya to the halls of Cambridge and the UN General Assembly, Esther Mutuma, founder & CEO of the Boreka Group , shares how a village girl with a love of math became a banking leader turned climate entrepreneur. In this Lifting While Climbing episode, Esther unpacks her journey from qualifying as an accountant at 22 to building a nature-based solutions company now partn...
Claude Jones | do.it.withAI | August 2025 26.08.2025 38:22
In this episode of the Lifting While Climbing podcast, Athena CEO Holly Smithson sits down with Claude Jones, CEO of Do It With AI, for a powerful, perspective-shifting conversation about what it really means to lead with AI. Together, they explore how fear-based narratives around artificial intelligence are stalling progress—and how shaping AI, rather than reacting to it, is the key to ethical in...
Dr. Tina Nova | Life Science Consultant | July 2025 29.07.2025 34:15
In this powerful episode of Athena’s Lifting While Climbing , host Holly Smissen sits down with biotech trailblazer Dr. Tina Nova for an intimate, candid conversation about resilience, leadership, and purpose. From humble beginnings in Central California to leading multiple publicly traded companies and shaping the field of molecular diagnostics, Dr. Nova shares her remarkable journey with humor,...
Susan Poser & Jaye Connolly | Athena Chairs | June 2025 23.06.2025 27:23
As political pressure mounts and corporate DEI efforts are being quietly rebranded or rolled back, Athena’s leadership is standing firm. In this powerful episode, Athena CEO Holly Smithson is joined by Board Chair Susan Poser (Oracle) and Vice Chair Jaye Connolly (RippleNami) for a candid conversation about resilience, global perspectives, and why Athena remains unapologetically committed to advan...
Rijon Charne, J.D. | Sunray Fertility Law | May 2025 23.05.2025 33:06
In this month’s Lifting While Climbing podcast, we spotlight the unstoppable Rijon Charne —a lawyer, cancer warrior, and fierce advocate who turned every obstacle into ammunition for change. Just two days after graduating from law school, Rijon was diagnosed with Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Before starting chemo, she tried to freeze her eggs—but her insurance company denied the claim, calling fertility p...
Dr. Nima Alamdari | Ritual | April 2025 28.04.2025 34:07
In Athena’s April edition of Lifting While Climbing , CEO Holly Smithson welcomes Dr. Nima Alamdari, Chief Science Officer at Ritual, as the podcast’s first featured workplace ally. Against the backdrop of today’s politically charged climate, this timely conversation explores how authentic allyship — rooted in action, intention, and abundance — must be an active leadership practice, not just a pa...
Misti Cain | Techstars | March 2025 25.03.2025 34:59
In celebration of Women’s History Month, Athena was honored to spotlight powerhouse entrepreneur, marketing strategist, and business reality show host Misti Cain on our Lifting While Climbing podcast. And if you missed it—trust us—you’ll want to press play on this episode. Raised in a humble, working-class family in Visalia, CA, Misti’s story isn’t one of a straight path—it’s a testament to the...
Lara Wynne | Gate Sciences | January 2025 27.01.2025 33:29
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Lara Wynne, co-founder and Chief Commercial Officer of Gate Sciences, on this month’s episode of Lifting While Climbing. Lara shares her remarkable journey from being a stay-at-home mom to leading groundbreaking innovations in orthopedic care, all while balancing motherhood and a thriving career. Discover how Lara’s work at Gate Sciences is revolutionizin...
Kiva Allgood | Corporate Board Director, Advisor | December 2024 10.12.2024 29:49
In this dynamic episode of Athena’s Lifting While Climbing podcast, Athena’s President and CEO, Holly Smithson, sits down with trailblazing leader Kiva Allgood for a candid and inspiring conversation. Kiva shares her extraordinary career journey in the technology industry, offering invaluable insights on leadership, perseverance, and breaking barriers. Together, Holly and Kiva discuss the power...
Dr. Manna Semby | Aruna Personalized Medicine | November 2024 26.11.2024 34:29
Tune in to the latest episode of Athena’s Lifting While Climbing podcast, where CEO and host Holly Smithson dives into an inspiring conversation with Dr. Manna Semby. Dr. Semby shares her extraordinary journey from a successful career on Wall Street to becoming a naturopathic doctor and functional medicine expert. Motivated by personal challenges, including her children’s autism diagnoses and her...
Sheila Gujrathi, MD | ADARx and Ventyx | September 2024 25.09.2024 38:33
In this episode of Athena's Lifting While Climbing podcast, Holly Smithson, President and CEO of Athena, sits down with Lifting While Climbing Summit speaker Dr. Sheila Gujrathi. Dr. Gujrathi shares her inspiring journey from the world of medicine to becoming a leader in the biotech industry. She discusses the importance of listening to one's inner voice, and the core values that guided h...
Sarah Hassaine | ResMed | August 2024 27.08.2024 20:50
In the latest episode of Athena’s Lifting While Climbing podcast, host Holly Smithson, Athena’s President and CEO, welcomes Sarah Hassan, Head of Global Diversity & Inclusion at ResMed. Sarah shares her inspiring journey from working in refugee camps to leading DE&I initiatives at global tech giants like Amazon, Qualcomm, and ResMed. The conversation dives into the challenges of breaking i...
Kyla Pavlina | Schiper Medicine | July 2024 31.07.2024 30:32
In this episode of Athena's "Lifting While Climbing" podcast, Holly Smithson, the President and CEO of Athena, speaks with Kyla Pavlina, Chief People Officer at Scipher Medicine. Kyla, whose career spans roles in law, litigation, and the medical device industry, shares insights into her work and the evolving role of Chief People Officers. Kyla discusses her approach to addressing gen...
Apparna Ramadoss | Intuit | June 2024 26.06.2024 24:32
The June edition of Athena's Lifting While Climbing podcast, hosted by Holly Smithson, President and CEO of Athena, celebrates International Women's Engineering Day with an insightful interview featuring Apparna Ramadoss, executive engineer at Intuit. Apparna emphasizes the critical need for young, diverse minds in engineering to drive innovation and ensure product relevance. She discusses...
Rebecca Driscoll | Cancer Help Desk | May 2024 29.05.2024 28:45
Athena’s Lifting While Climbing podcast kicks off our summer with Rebecca Driscoll, CEO & Founder of Cancer Help Desk. Rebecca’s inspiring journey is a revealing showcase of what an unbreakable spirit and purpose-driven leadership looks like in 3-D. Rebecca shares the genesis of Cancer Help Desk- a nonprofit dedicated to patient navigation in the complex world of cancer care- and describes the...
Kassandra Castillo | WSGR | April 2024 01.05.2024 24:56
We're thrilled to have Kassandra Castillo, Partner at Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, joining us this month. As a highly successful corporate partner, providing counsel to life sciences and technology companies at every stage of development, Kassandra shares a unique perspective, and delivers a wealth of concrete strategies and actionable insights including: Expressing your value with co...
Colleen Cormier | Commvault | March 2024 26.03.2024 27:58
We're wrapping up Women's History Month with a powerful message in the Lifting While Climbing studio with Colleen Cormier, Vice President of Enterprise Sales at Commvault. Lighting the pathway for her "big, bold career in tech," Colleen attributes her sponsors and mentors as paving the way to unleash her confidence and ambition. When considering a new career opportunity she expla...
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