Leading Learning

The Community for Learning Business Professionals

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Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

Leading with Outcomes with Amy Michalski and Shelly Strickland of AIIM 07.07.2026

Many learning businesses market what they offer. The ones that get better results market what their learners need. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-host Celisa Steele talks with Amy Michalski and Shelly Strickland, who handle business development and marketing at the Association for Intelligent Information Management (AIIM). They share what moves the … The post Leading wit...

From Content Economy to Trust Economy with Panos Siozos 23.06.2026

When everyone has access to the same powerful tools and technologies, polished content becomes table stakes, and learning businesses that compete primarily on content will find it increasingly hard to stand out. So what do you compete on instead? In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-host Jeff Cobb talks with Panos Siozos, CEO … The post From Content Economy to Trust Economy wi...

Learning Isn’t Content with Dr. Tessa Forshaw 09.06.2026

Learning is, at its root, a neurobiological process. But most workplace learning doesn’t recognize that reality. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-host Celisa Steele talks with Dr. Tessa Forshaw, cognitive scientist and faculty member at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, where she studies how people work, learn, and create in the … The post Learning Isn’t Cont...

From Lean Startup to Incorruptible Organization with Eric Ries 26.05.2026

Many organizations say they are mission-driven. But mission drift is real and often happens because of the very structures and activities organizations have been told represent best practices. So what does it take to build an organization that stays true to what it set out to do? In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, … The post From Lean Startup to Incorruptible Organization with...

Getting Learners to Act with Nancy Harhut 12.05.2026

It can be frustrating when your marketing doesn’t convert the way you expect. You put in the time to craft messages that you feel are clear, compelling, and persuasive—and still prospective learners don’t act. Part of the challenge is that people don’t make decisions the way we think they do. In this episode of the … The post Getting Learners to Act with Nancy Harhut appeared first on Leadin...

What Learning Business Leaders Need to Stop Doing 28.04.2026

Learning businesses are operating in an environment that feels more demanding, more uncertain, and harder to parse than ever. It’s natural to rely on familiar instincts—gather more data, add new offerings, work harder. But those instincts are sometimes counterproductive. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-hosts Celisa Steele and Jeff Cobb explore what … The post What Learnin...

Who Decides? Bringing Sanity to Managing Your Learning Portfolio 14.04.2026

Many learning businesses struggle with decisions about what to create, improve, and retire. With input coming from committees, volunteers, subject matter experts, and staff across the organization, it’s easy for the learning portfolio to become fragmented, duplicative, and difficult to manage in a coherent, sane way. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-hosts … The post Who De...

Pricing Association Education with Dr. Michael Carr-Tatonetti 31.03.2026

Many associations struggle with pricing their education offerings. Should education be bundled into membership? Sold à la carte? Packaged as a subscription? And how can learning businesses set prices in a way that reflects the value they provide and supports financial sustainability? In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-host Jeff Cobb talks with … The post Pricing Association...

Revisiting Reach, Revenue, and Impact—Ending with Impact 17.03.2026

In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-hosts Celisa Steele and Jeff Cobb wrap up their three-part look at reach, revenue, and impact by focusing on impact—often the least clearly defined and measured of the three pillars. Celisa and Jeff explore how impact looks different depending on whose perspective you consider—that of learners, employers, … The post Revisiting Reach, Revenu...

Revisiting Reach, Revenue, and Impact—Continuing with Revenue 03.03.2026

In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-hosts Celisa Steele and Jeff Cobb focus on revenue and why it—along with reach and impact—is fundamental to the success of any learning business. If you’re unsure which offerings are truly pulling their weight, whether you’re leaving money on the table, or how to decide what to … The post Revisiting Reach, Revenue, and Impact—Continuing wit...

Revisiting Reach, Revenue, and Impact—Starting with Reach 17.02.2026

Reach, revenue, and impact are familiar concepts to long-time listeners of the Leading Learning Podcast. But they’re often treated as separate challenges. In this episode, co-hosts Celisa Steele and Jeff Cobb revisit these three pillars and explore why they need to be approached as a connected system rather than isolated priorities. Drawing on recent research, … The post Revisiting Reach, Re...

Social Learning Objects: From Content to Collective Learning 03.02.2026

Most learning businesses are rich in content, but far fewer are intentional about which pieces of content sparks collective learning, In this episode, Leading Learning Podcast co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele explore the concept of social learning objects: shared artifacts that anchor attention, create common language, and turn individual consumption into collective learning. Social … Th...

Lean Startup, Design Thinking, and Culture with Elizabeth Engel and Jamie Notter 20.01.2026

Many learning businesses know they need to innovate, but moving faster and experimenting can run headlong into culture and the fear of being wrong. This episode of the Leading Learning Podcast looks at why that happens and what to do about it. Elizabeth Engel and Jamie Notter, co-authors of the white paper “Lean at Ten: … The post Lean Startup, Design Thinking, and Culture with Elizabeth Eng...

The Strategic Outlook for Learning Businesses 2026 06.01.2026

Strategy is about making choices—where to focus, what to invest in, and what to stop doing. Data can help bring clarity to those decisions, especially in a complex and competitive environment. In this episode, Leading Learning Podcast co-hosts Celisa Steele and Jeff Cobb share insights from a survey of learning businesses to help you think … The post The Strategic Outlook for Learning Busine...

Redux: Maximizing Learning with Mindset 23.12.2025

Mindset shapes how adults approach learning, challenge, and change—and it has important implications for learning businesses. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, number 468, co-hosts Celisa Steele and Jeff Cobb explore Mindset, the influential book by psychologist Carol Dweck, and the broader concept of mindset. They unpack the distinction between fixed and growth … The post Red...

Associations as Architects of Learning 09.12.2025

Content is everywhere, governance is slow to change, and technology expectations keep climbing—association learning businesses are feeling squeezed. Most are still operating like catalog providers in a market that now needs architects. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-hosts Celisa Steele and Jeff Cobb share a Rumelt-style diagnosis based on conversations with 27 … The post...

Cert Prep, Pricing, and Impact with Letty Kluttz 25.11.2025

Building or refreshing certification prep, reviewing prices, or expanding into new formats? This conversation offers concrete examples of how to move fast, listen well, and align your portfolio with both mission and margin. Letty Kluttz, senior vice president of membership, education, and programs for the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology (APIC), talks … The...

Responsible, Pragmatic AI with Tori Miller Liu 11.11.2025

Unsure about AI guardrails, AI data risks, or which artificial intelligence project to pick first? You’re not alone. Tori Miller Liu, president and CEO of the Association for Intelligent Information Management (AIIM), talks with Leading Learning Podcast co-host Celisa Steele about treating artificial intelligence initiatives as data initiatives, picking one to three practical use cases … The...

AI in the Learning Business Maturity Model 28.10.2025

Artificial intelligence often magnifies what’s already happening in an organization. If your metadata is a mess, an AI recommendation engine might help you give prospective customers recommendations faster, but those recommendations aren’t likely to be effective. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-hosts Celisa Steele and Jeff Cobb place AI in the Learning … The post AI in th...

Becoming a Learning-Centric Organization with Mike Moss 14.10.2025

Do you want your learning business to be more than a provider of programs, to truly operate as a learning-centric organization? This episode of the Leading Learning Podcast offers a real-world example of how to do just that. Mike Moss, president of the Society for College and University Planning (SCUP), joins co-host Jeff Cobb to … The post Becoming a Learning-Centric Organization with Mike...

Governance, Risk, and the Future of Learning with Glenn Tecker 30.09.2025

If you’re concerned about how your learning business can keep pace with rapid change—AI, growing risks, shifting learner expectations—this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast can help. Associations, credentialing bodies, and other learning businesses face mounting pressure to do fewer things of greater value, and success requires both courage and careful risk management. Glenn Tecker, …...

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