Trudi Dempsey
Lead a Horse to Water
Lost in the sea of horse training? Step aboard for evidence based equine training and behaviour content. Listen to professionals and enthusiasts from the world of horse training and behaviour as well as associated areas of the equine world. Trudi Dempsey is an English equine trainer and behaviour consultant, specialising in positive reinforcement.
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Episodes
Inside the Professional Horse Trainers Forum with Milly Paton and Christa Culbert 11.07.2026 20:44
In this episode, I sit down with Milly Paton and Christa Culbert, two presenters from the upcoming Professional Horse Trainers Forum, to explore what makes training genuinely safe and effective for both horse and human. Milly, a mental health nurse and positive reinforcement trainer, unpacks psychological safety as the foundation for learning. In her presentation she will discuss how distress and...
How Well Do We Read Equine Pain - in conversation with Dr Nicola Gregory 18.05.2026 56:27
In this episode I talk to Dr. Nicola Gregory, a psychologist with a lifelong passion for horses whose research has been asking questions about how well we actually read equine pain. Nicola holds a BSc in Neuroscience from the University ofSussex (2000) and a PhD in Psychology from the University of Exeter (2011). Following her doctorate, she undertook a post‑doctoral position at the University of...
Cooperative Care a Carpool Podcast with Gabriel Lencioni 05.04.2026 38:54
What happens when two behaviour nerds, a parked car, and a determined group of tourists get in the way? You get this episode. Recorded in my car after a series of camera mishaps and unexpected background 'ambience,' this carpool podcast with veterinary behaviourist Gabriel Lencioni dives into the art of cooperative care, Horse‑Initiated Training (HIT), and the many ways we can give horses...
Positive Reinforcement Based Training - In Conversation with Coraline Plumat 06.03.2026 1:06:44
In this episode, I sit down with Coraline Plumat of Une Leçon d’Ancrage to explore the current state of positive reinforcement–based equine training. We discuss the challenges of introducing R+, the importance of sharing knowledge, and how collaboration can help trainers and horses alike reach their full potential. Whether you’re just curious about new approaches or looking to deepen your practice...
Choice, in Conversation with Christa and Taylor Culbert 18.01.2026 50:49
In this episode I'm delighted to be joined by sisters Taylor and Christa Culbert. We talk about offering choice to our horses in their lives and their training. Christa is a horse trainer who lives in Bellingham, Washington with her husband, two dogs, and two horses. She has a BFA in painting and drawing, and is currently in a Masters program in Applied Animal Behavior and Welfare. Christa off...
Forming Habits 04.12.2025 20:39
In this episode I talk about habits. We often describe them as automatic and almost separate from conscious training, yet the processes that build them are the same ones that shape all learned behaviour. Classical conditioning and operant conditioning are usually taught as if they belong in different boxes. One is presented as passive association. The other is active learning by consequences. In p...
Listening to Horses, in conversation with Nicky Ross 09.11.2025 1:00:08
My Professional Horse Trainer Certificate Course is now open for 2026 and there is a scholarship place available with applications closing at the end of November. https://courses.understandhorses.com/courses/professional-horse-trainer-certificate In this episode I’m delighted to be joined by Nicky Ross, an equine behaviourist with over 20 years of experience. Nicky specialises in exploring and nur...
In conversation with Irith Bloom 22.07.2025 1:06:55
In conversation with-Irith Bloom certified professional trainer, behavior consultant and TAGteacher. I hope you enjoy the conversation I had with friend and colleague Irith about training and behaviour including, parallels between horses and dogs and much more. Irith Bloom, author, presenter, trainer, and teacher, owns The Sophisticated Dog , a company that provides both peer-to-peer and trainer-t...
Can we shape behaviour using negative reinforcement? 15.07.2025 27:50
We often think of behaviour produced with positive reinforcement as the only behaviour that can be shaped but of course behaviour produced using negative reinforcement can be shaped too. In this episode, I explore what constructional training is, how CAT protocols use R- to build functional skills, and where R- stops serving the learner and starts serving the trainer. Spoiler: for me it’s all abou...
Can we build 'giving a break' into a reinforcer 07.07.2025 25:42
As humans we might perceive many reinforcers in our world from edible delicacies to buying new clothes but often we feel limited with finding different reinforcers for our horses. This is a hypothetical discussion about using a 'time to relax' or 'giving a break' as a reinforcer. https://www.equine.training/my-courses/ for my courses.
Podcast Postbag- Your questions answered with Katrina Per-Carruthers 13.04.2025 51:48
We consider your questions on: Hunter training- balance and more Choice vs Structure in training Listening to horses Reinforcers failing Techniques we stole from dog trainers X-species training
World Horse Welfare Webinar Unanswered Questions 05.04.2025 20:48
If you didn't catch the webinar you can do so at this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-rr-4HLVY Thanks to those who asked some brilliant questions.
We all make mistakes 21.03.2025 22:24
In my equine scent work session with Rum this week, I made a mistake that really highlighted the need for an errorless approach. He indicated on the wrong container, the blank without odour (in theory) and my instinct, was to offer no reinforcement, and redirect him to the search. Not really an errorless approach. In an errorless framework, we don’t let the learner practise mistakes. Instead, we s...
The fix starts with you: in conversation with Katrina Per-Carruthers 28.02.2025 1:01:49
In this episode my friend and colleague Katrina Per-Carruthers unpick some training fails and discuss solutions that are horse centred. Mounting block problems, fence refusal and unwillingness to go forward were in our sights this time. If you have topics you'd like us to cover then do drop me a message. Katrina Per-Carruthers lives in British Columbia, Canada where she trains a variety of species...
Why clicker training might not be my go to with new equine clients 11.02.2025 16:46
I don't always recommend clicker training as a first option when I start working with a new client. Why? Well take a listen as I talk through a specific example and explain ways that I might add some R+ based training without the pressure of the trainer carrying food and having to be great at timing and mechanics. How do I square this with working inside a LIMA framework? As always questions and c...
Male horses 'dropping' when training with food 08.01.2025 18:56
The topic of male horses 'dropping' when training with food (clicker training) has reared its head again- I'm glad because it is a topic we need to consider. In this short episode I will explain (again) why I don't think we should brush this topic under the carpet! Warning- I talk about penises in this episode. If you want help with your horse dropping or over threshold when training with food- ge...
Cooperative Care In conversation with Dr. Katerina Junghansova 29.12.2024 1:12:22
In this episode Dr. Katerina Junghansova (Kate) and I chat about cooperative care for horses. Kate is an equine veterinarian, lifelong equestrian, animal lover, and the founder of an educational project called VetCareTraining. Her mission is to promote safe, and ethical horse handling and training. She is really passionate about equine cooperative care, and she thinks it´s the future of equine hea...
Talk about clicker training targets; it's a wrap 23.12.2024 16:49
In this final short episode on target training I delve a little deeper into how and when I use targets in my training. Questions? Comments? Drop me a message or email trudi@equine.training
Talk about clicker training targets; when to use a target 12.12.2024 12:30
The third (hop back and listen to the first two if you haven't yet) in the clicker training targets mini series. In this one I discuss when I use targets in my training from cognitive enrichment to training movement. If you want to learn how to train in this way then join me on my accredited professional trainer course in 2025 https://courses.understandhorses.com/courses/horse-trainer-foundation-...
Talk about clicker training targets; plans and blueprints 02.12.2024 17:20
The second (hop back and listen to the first if you haven't yet) in the clicker training targets mini series. In this one I discuss planning and setting up the behaviour- essential for all training. If you want to learn how to train in this way then join me on my accredited professional trainer course in 2025 https://courses.understandhorses.com/courses/horse-trainer-foundation-certificate Drop me...
Talk about clicker training targets; an overview 28.11.2024 12:32
My Understand Horses Trainer's course https://courses.understandhorses.com/courses/horse-trainer-foundation-certificate My IAABC Foundation course https://iaabcfoundation.org/courses/equine-discomfort-ethogram/ My IAABC Foundation Journal article on targets https://journal.iaabcfoundation.org/target-training-for-horses-hit-or-miss/
Young horse training, in conversation with Chess Watts 31.10.2024 50:03
In this episode I talk to Chess about her journey with Gambit her young Exmoor pony. I met them when she needed help with his behaviour and the two have been a real joy to work with. My new accredited trainer course is now live at Understand Horses https://courses.understandhorses.com/courses/horse-trainer-foundation-certificate Check out my IAABC Foundation course here https://iaabcfoundation.org...
In Conversation with Jessie Sams 10.10.2024 1:00:38
In this episode Jessie Sams and I finally got around to talking to her about her life and work with horses and other topics like a biopsychosocial model, the 3 C's of communication, choice and consent (with Emily Kieson) , compassion for human horse carers and lots more. Jessie Sams is an animal behaviour consultant with a degree in Animal Behaviour and Welfare Science from the University of Green...
Science, evidence...does it support clicker training? Summer short 6 27.09.2024 17:35
Are science based or evidence based titles a good idea? How do we feel about science, especially in light of the recent dog study. Does science absolutely support R+ based/clicker training? How science has made me cross and how I'm learning to cut more slack! Heads up my Horse Trainer Foundation Certificate Course (accredited by Rural Skills) will be coming online in 2025, details will be released...
Should we combine reinforcement, does it work? Summer short 5 12.09.2024 18:38
It will come as no big surprise that intentionally combining positive and negative reinforcement isn't something I'm huge on. I was surprised to hear experts/academics lack of understanding regarding things like shaping and backchaining and reducing reinforcement without frustration. It's a bit ranty :)
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