Lawyers as Healers

In this solo reflection, Dave returns from a 30-day van trip with his family through the American West, the Pacific Northwest, and Vancouver Island. Along the way, time spent among Sequoias, Redwoods, coastal rainforests, clear-cut forests, and recovering ecosystems sparked a deeper reflection on the legal system and the role lawyers play in human conflict. Standing among ancient trees and witness...

What are people really looking for when they call a lawyer? In this episode, I sit down with my former colleague Jane Lutz, who spent years serving as the first point of contact for clients at our law firm. With a background in human development and psychological services, Jane brought a perspective that was very different from the traditional legal mindset. Together, we explore what clients are a...

In this episode, I sit down with attorney, mediator, facilitator, and peacemaker Andy Kull to explore what becomes possible when lawyers move beyond purely adversarial ways of thinking. Listen to learn more about Andy's journey from commercial litigator to peacemaker, Together, we explore the distinction between adversarial and relational thinking, why so many lawyers experience burnout, and how t...

In this episode, I’m joined by mediator and collaborative attorney Catherine Conner, a longtime teacher with the Center for Understanding in Conflict and one of the early practitioners of collaborative law. Catherine has spent more than four decades helping people navigate conflict through curiosity, listening, empathy, and deeper understanding rather than coercion, positional bargaining, or adver...

In this episode, I’m joined by lawyer, mediator, educator, and author Myrna McCallum for a deep conversation about trauma, emotional intelligence, and the hidden costs of disconnection inside the legal profession. Myrna shares her personal journey into law, her work developing trauma-informed legal practices, and why many lawyers are rewarded for behaviors that disconnect them from themselves and...

Over the last few episodes, I’ve shared my personal journey away from litigation and toward mediation, coaching, and integrative approaches to conflict. But the more people I’ve met along the way, the more I’ve realized this isn’t just my story. There is a quiet evolution happening inside the legal profession. More and more lawyers are beginning to question whether the adversarial system is actual...

What do you do when you realize you can’t keep practicing law the way you’ve been trained to? In the last episode, I shared the story of why I stepped away from litigation. This episode is about what came next. I didn’t leave with a plan. I just knew I couldn’t keep doing what I was doing. In the process of figuring out what else was possible, I was introduced to a world of approaches most lawyers...

What happens when the career you’ve built no longer fits who you’re becoming? In this episode, I share the story behind my transition away from litigation and into a different way of thinking about law, conflict, and my role in the world. After a decade as an employment litigator, everything looked successful on paper. But internally, I was dealing with constant anxiety and a growing sense of misa...

In this episode of Lawyers as Healers , I explore a strange reality about the legal profession: lawyers spend their careers working in human conflict, yet most receive little or no training in the basics of conflict itself. Law school teaches doctrine, legal analysis, and how to pass the bar exam. But it rarely teaches the psychology of conflict or the communication tools that help people engage i...

This episode explores the concept of lawyers as healers and the tension between the original intent of becoming a lawyer and the reality of legal practice. It delves into the childhood influence of becoming a lawyer, the motivation for becoming a lawyer, the shift that occurs in law school, and the incoherence of legal practice. Takeaways Lawyers as healers The tension between the original intent...

In the first episode of Lawyers as Healers , host Dave Albrechta introduces the central idea behind the podcast: that the legal profession may have a deeper calling than simply resolving disputes. Reflecting on a quote from Chief Justice Warren Burger and his own journey from a decade of employment litigation to mediation and coaching, Dave explores why the concept of lawyers as healers of human c...