Kratom Sobriety

Discussion about Tampa Bay Times Deadly Dose series. Chance kicks kratom with the "embrace the suck" strategy to withstand withdrawals and leaning on the help of a 12-step fellowship. Please call 313-437-7720 and leave a three-minute holiday show message.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK  Google Slide with all the online kratom meeting days and times, and login codes. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/...

Total abstinence and grey/gray area kratom use. Saydi kicks the kava/kratom tonic, going from once walking two miles to get the product to projecting to save $10,000 per year off the stuff.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK (not sponsored) https://www.vivitrol.com/opioid-dependence https://www.drugs.com/vivitrol.html   KRATOM IN THE HEADLINES Warning - Avoid These NEW Types of Products https://www.kratomscie...

Interview with Kayla about her mother, who medical examiners determined died from acute mitragynine toxicity on December 15, 2021.    Research article cited in opening: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4495146 "Mitragynine associated death incidents or MADI is indeed a legitimate, serious public health concern. Our results have provided evidence of the adverse effects associated...

Can mushrooms help curb a kratom addiction or detox from one? Jan, likely the most disciplined guest to appear since Mike, talks about how an alcoholic-alternative kratom product led him to "deteriorate faster than I could lower my standards" (from Anne Lamont quoted in Brené Brown's book Braving the Wilderness).   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK From Cleveland Clinic: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/75-h...

Harper's first addiction was kratom and she successfully tapered off a year and half ago.  Clip from the Dopey podcast from Dr. Harrison warning that while kratom is clearly safer than opioids, it is addictive in itself, can produce difficult withdrawals and many patients have to receive medicated assisted treatment to quit.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK By Dr. Nzinga Harrison: Un-Addiction book and podc...

California sober discussion. Husband and father of seven boys, Zack shares how he kicked extracts after first trying kratom to assist with his fitness routine.    RESOURCE OF THE WEEK The Cannabis That People Are Using for Anxiety Is Probably Making It Worse https://www.wsj.com/health/wellness/anxiety-medical-marijuana-treatment-4bfd2cc3   KRATOM IN THE HEADLINES Federal KCPA https://www.naturalpr...

Opiate/opiod withdrawals compared to kratom withdrawals. Cristina talks with Decima about her journey growing up in a household where she did not learn to self regulate to adulthood as a mother and wife through surviving trauma to recover from a kratom dependency and hair loss.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK Healing from trauma and addiction: Book: https://pete-walker.com/complex_ptsd_book.html Podcast: h...

Jacob interviews Wendy of Kratom Danger Awareness (KDA). Her son Joseph died at age 38 from mitragynine / kratom toxicity with no other substances or drugs in his system.  Wendy's group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/kratomdangerawareness   https://kratomdangerawareness.org Scientific studies discussed by Charlie at end about kratom as a cause of death: * Papsun, D. M., Schroeder, W., Brower, J....

Jacob and Charlie read some listener comments and discuss the growth of the kratom industry and the podcast.  Nick is almost three years clean off of kratom and shares how we need more kratom-specific recovery awareness and resources. Decima talks about kratom regulation in Mississippi. Study Jacob referenced about explosion of kratom market: https://www.maximizemarketresearch.com/market-report/kr...

Decima & Charlie discuss getting things done without kratom. Eva shares how she quit kratom after a near-death experience and a relapse.   RESOURCE OF WEEK Google Sheet tapering tool: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13QpmFV45wUXWuh6YDQPvk51Da3gJMkh4X1WSLpsEwzE/edit?usp=sharing   KRATOM IN THE HEADLINES Shot of Joy FDA Warning Letter: https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcemen...

Jacob and Decima discuss MAT opiate blockers versus replacement therapy.  Chad talks about getting up to 12 kava/kratom drinks a day, and the horrible cracked and bloody hands, and significant weight loss that off accompanies it. Lots of references to libido and negative impacts with use of subs and kratom! Charlie's "Kicking K" Spotify Playlist featuring Social Distortion's Ball & Chain: http...

Mr. Ericson's reporting on the kratom industry for Court House News: https://www.courthousenews.com/can-kratom-kill/ https://www.courthousenews.com/addiction-and-the-kratom-business/ https://www.courthousenews.com/the-kratom-playbook-working-the-refs/ https://www.courthousenews.com/the-law-and-the-profits-inside-kratoms-political-underbelly/ https://www.courthousenews.com/major-kratom-importers-gu...

Preview of an upcoming episode with journalist Edward Erickson, Jr. and his articles about the kratom industry. Decima interviews Sammy who quit kratom 5 years ago!  Jacob takes a look at kratom and toxic metals. RESOURCE OF WEEK https://nextdistro.org/naloxone If you are using kratom and are at-risk of mixing it with stronger drugs known to cause respiratory depression, please have naloxone/narca...

Kratom and hair loss. Wes tells how he kicked the kava/kratom "little blue devils". Drugs that use CYP3A to break down may be inhibited by kratom consumption, and hence may cause a dangerous overdose condition with some common pharmaceuticals.   RESOURCE OF WEEK Kratom can affect certain forms of CYP enzymes that are crucial in the metabolization of other compounds such as pharmaceutical drugs. Th...

Lori shares how she broke her 10 year long kratom addiction (dependency + inability to stop despite a strong desire to quit and negative consequences - financial and health in her case). She really relates to the quote from the Lord of Rings in which Bilbo tells Gandalf that “I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread.” Things are much better today kratom-free.  NOTE:...

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Kava/kratom drink special. Interview best listened to on speakers not headphones sorry for audio issues. John tells how he kicked kava/kratom shots: "You have to work on the little blue bottle hole inside you that led you to get addicted."  See previous episode on potential fermenting of kratom that may why kratom/kava drinks maybe so addictive for many people: https://kratomsobriety.podbean.com/e...

Guest analysis about kratom pharmacology with academic references for this episode's commentary.  Contact info at end of the show notes if you are seeking help quitting kratom.   SOURCES Angyal, Péter, Kristóf Hegedüs, Bence Balázs Mészáros, János Daru, Ádám Dudás, Anna Rita Galambos, Nariman Essmat, Mahmoud Al-Khrasani, Szilárd Varga, and Tibor Soós. 2023a. “Gram-Scale Syntheses of Kratom Pseudoi...

Charlie and Decima discuss top ten tips for quitting kratom.  Misha talks about her struggle with the risky carousel of kratom, alcohol and pills.  Jacob gives a review of online MAT providers.   RESOURCES OF THE WEEK https://quick.md/medication-assisted-treatment/ https://www.bicyclehealth.com/treatment/medication-assisted-treatment   KRATOM IN THE HEADLINES Major kratom importer’s guilty plea st...

Matthew continues sharing his experience, including incorporating stoic philosophy into his recovery.  Part 1 of the interview was published August 27, 2023.   Stoicism quotes for quitting kratom: Seneca: “We are often more frightened than hurt; and we suffer more from imagination than from reality.”  Epictetus: “It isn’t events themselves that disturb people, but only their judgements about them....

Matthew discusses (in part one of two episodes) his pathway back to a more fulfilling life after a two year relapse on kratom.  The challenge of the distance-beta paradox in kratom addiction (for example, kratom is for most people not as bad as other addictions so that actually makes it harder to quit, similar to how a so-so job may be harder to quit than a horrible job). https://en.wikipedia.org/...

Guest expert interview with CEO of Boardwalk Recovery in San Diego. Occasionally, on Wednesdays we may publish special episodes featuring content different from our typical format on Sundays with people in recovery from kratom addiction sharing their stories.   Episode 18: Tommy Hathorn shares a hopeful message about his 19 years of personal recovery and a decade of service operating addiction cen...

Eric is a family man who is fit (protein diet & regular exercise) and energetic (high earner & top performer). Without a history of addiction in his past, he found even with his typical competency and life advantages he needed the help of a short-term detox center and brief MAT intervention to kick kratom.   RESOURCES OF THE WEEK Kratom Quitting Via MAT Subreddit  https://www.reddit.com/r/...

Hosted by Krista & Jacob this week. Fritz's addiction doctor said his kratom withdrawal may feel like "a mix of opiates, benzos & stimulates" after five years of 30 grams per day. After quitting kratom through the help of medical treatment and by resetting his sobriety date at his 12 step home group, Fritz has restored trust with his wife to enjoy new dance lessons and new peace during his...

Cold turkey vs tapering discussion. A mother of five and an EMT, Natalie started using kratom seven years ago and took a year to prepare to quit by making exercise and nutritional lifestyle changes to reinforce a transition to being kratom free.   RESOURCES OF THE WEEK Andrew Huberman AMA Kratom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoH93judXmE   KRATOM IN THE HEADLINES News story with kratom related se...