Kratom Sobriety

Using kratom as a harm reduction strategy or withdrawal tool. John G. pulled off a successful 2024 New Year's Resolution and is celebrating 90 days kratom free while offering some wisdom on quitting and life.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK  5 Ways to Deal With Urges and Cravings (smartrecovery.org) https://smartrecovery.org/blog/5-ways-to-deal-with-urges-and-cravings D = Delay.  E = Escape.  A = Accept. ...

Supplements for withdrawal: skeptic or fan?  Sofia, a Latina social worker, mom, spouse and lover of mullet rock, experienced mild to moderate disordered kratom use, making it harder to quit as it wasn't clearly ruining her life like more severe cases. The first time she was ever physically dependent on any substance, Sofia came up with a plan, stuck with it and is now four plus months kratom free...

Never quit quitting. As a person with life-long poly-substance addiction, Nick tried many strategies including 7 rehabs, one rapid detox, suboxone, methadone, and plant medicine ceremonies. This time at 101 days off kratom, he is embracing a 12 step program and following directions from his sponsor and sober living house.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK New Kratom Meeting Sundays 3pm EST Zoom: 804 300 586...

Kratom as a first-time addiction.  Joining past guests Elliot, Mike, Eric, Fawn, and Tyrone with no previous history of substance abuse, Anne found herself hooked on the popular kava-kratom drink.  It took an encounter in her kitchen with her teenager to give her a wake-up call that helped her finally quit.    RESOURCE OF THE WEEK Drug Shortage Detail: Naltrexone Tablets (ashp.org) https://www.ash...

Is kratom an opioid? A widowed single mom, Julie quit kratom along with several other substances - phenibut and a racetam - at the same time. The dangers of under the radar "read about it on Reddit" drugs.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK https://kratommeetings.com/   Quitting Feel Free | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/1058727775184974/   KRATOM IN THE HEADLINES Neptune's Fix products recalled nat...

Dependency versus addiction. Kim struggled with a lifelong poly-substance history. In November 2023, she went to an inpatient facility for a short-term medicated-assisted treatment to kick kratom and alcohol, and to begin a new pathway of recovery.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK Relentless Summit x Gary Brecka | Full Speech (youtube.com) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIgu5yPes4k   KRATOM IN THE HEADLINE...

Can you solve a drug problem with drugs? Andrew pursued treatment with an African plant medicine called Iboga to detox and reset his system to kick kratom for ten months. He relapsed and is now back on track again.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK New Kratom Anonymous meeting on Wednesdays 6:30pm PST / 9:30pm EST to go along with Saturday meetings 2pm PST / 5pm EST. ZOOM: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/717048299...

Fading Affect Bias. Alex used kratom powder at about 30 grams per day over several years, and successfully tapered off in November 2023.  Starting kratom at first to ween off prescription pain pills, he eventually used kratom at moderate servings to maintain through the week, and at higher doses on the weekends to get high.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK Help with restless leg syndrome during kratom withd...

At one time, Lorine was very pro-kratom on social media and introduced it to many of her friends. After quitting for 11 months, and followed by a return to problematic use, she is now a month off after a short detox stay at the beginning of 2024.    RESOURCE OF THE WEEK  Mindset for quitting kratom https://www.drjunkieshow.com/podcast/episode/7625def9/108-quitting-kratoma-story-about-set-and-setti...

Addiction and relationships. After using kratom for 7 years, Jon found his personality was changing and he was not living up to his own values. With a nudge from his wife, he quit cold turkey 99 days ago at the time of the interview. RESOURCE OF THE WEEK  The Hard Stuff: Dope, Crime, the MC5, and My Life of Impossibilities  The first memoir by Wayne Kramer, legendary guitarist and cofounder of qui...

Kratom's potential negative impacts on mental health. Brette began visiting kratom bars as a teenager with friends and became addicted during her important young adult years. Now three years off the substance, she enjoys the benefits of sobriety and has a lifetime of adventure ahead.    RESOURCE OF THE WEEK  New WhatsApp Group for Women Quitting Kratom Contact Decima to join: decimataxservices@gma...

Quitting kratom for good versus taking a break. A powder "grey area" user of usually around 15 grams per day, Tyrone talks to Jacob about kicking kratom once for 8 months, returning to use and struggling with the idea of quitting permanently when he never experienced major consequences from consumption.    RESOURCE OF THE WEEK  Potential medication to discuss with your doctor to help with kratom w...

The mismarketing of kratom = taking away informed consent for new users. A doctor recommended kratom to Robynn to help with getting off a several month narcotic prescription to address pain for herniated discs. Big pharma shills, she and Decima discuss her taper off powder kratom as a stay-at-home mom and helping people quit kratom on Tik-Tok.    RESOURCE OF THE WEEK  Tik-Tok resources: Decima: ht...

Relapse prevention discussion. Nick G. (episode was formerly named Nicolas) describes his quitting experience as follows: * Prescription opiate background * Getting hard into extracts after back surgery * Being an entrepreneur and juggling kratom addiction * Going through divorce in the middle of severe kratom suffering * Checking myself in detox and 30 days of treatment * Relapsing the next day *...

New year's resolutions. Once running a 125 mile race and with no previous addiction beyond perhaps exercise, Jazz tapered off powder kratom with the aid of psychedelic therapy in a structured setting Her mantra after three years of addiction: "I never lose, I either win or learn.    RESOURCE OF THE WEEK  Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine is seeking volunteers to complete an online survey...

NOTE: With the audio quality of voice messages, episode best listened to on Podbean. On the 12th day off kratom, my withdrawals gave to me: Peace of mind is coming! 11 supporters hyping! 10 hours finally sleeping! 9 songs got me dancing! 8 flu like symptoms! 7 mood hypersensitivities! 6 diarrheas slaying! 5 cold sweats that stink! 4 body hurts! 3 short breaths! 2 restless legs! And I'm freaking ou...

Discussion about Tampa Bay Times Deadly Dose series. Chance kicks kratom with the "embrace the suck" strategy to withstand withdrawals and leaning on the help of a 12-step fellowship. Please call 313-437-7720 and leave a three-minute holiday show message.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK  Google Slide with all the online kratom meeting days and times, and login codes. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/...

Total abstinence and grey/gray area kratom use. Saydi kicks the kava/kratom tonic, going from once walking two miles to get the product to projecting to save $10,000 per year off the stuff.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK (not sponsored) https://www.vivitrol.com/opioid-dependence https://www.drugs.com/vivitrol.html   KRATOM IN THE HEADLINES Warning - Avoid These NEW Types of Products https://www.kratomscie...

Interview with Kayla about her mother, who medical examiners determined died from acute mitragynine toxicity on December 15, 2021.    Research article cited in opening: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4495146 "Mitragynine associated death incidents or MADI is indeed a legitimate, serious public health concern. Our results have provided evidence of the adverse effects associated...

Can mushrooms help curb a kratom addiction or detox from one? Jan, likely the most disciplined guest to appear since Mike, talks about how an alcoholic-alternative kratom product led him to "deteriorate faster than I could lower my standards" (from Anne Lamont quoted in Brené Brown's book Braving the Wilderness).   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK From Cleveland Clinic: https://health.clevelandclinic.org/75-h...

Harper's first addiction was kratom and she successfully tapered off a year and half ago.  Clip from the Dopey podcast from Dr. Harrison warning that while kratom is clearly safer than opioids, it is addictive in itself, can produce difficult withdrawals and many patients have to receive medicated assisted treatment to quit.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK By Dr. Nzinga Harrison: Un-Addiction book and podc...

California sober discussion. Husband and father of seven boys, Zack shares how he kicked extracts after first trying kratom to assist with his fitness routine.    RESOURCE OF THE WEEK The Cannabis That People Are Using for Anxiety Is Probably Making It Worse https://www.wsj.com/health/wellness/anxiety-medical-marijuana-treatment-4bfd2cc3   KRATOM IN THE HEADLINES Federal KCPA https://www.naturalpr...

Opiate/opiod withdrawals compared to kratom withdrawals. Cristina talks with Decima about her journey growing up in a household where she did not learn to self regulate to adulthood as a mother and wife through surviving trauma to recover from a kratom dependency and hair loss.   RESOURCE OF THE WEEK Healing from trauma and addiction: Book: https://pete-walker.com/complex_ptsd_book.html Podcast: h...

Jacob interviews Wendy of Kratom Danger Awareness (KDA). Her son Joseph died at age 38 from mitragynine / kratom toxicity with no other substances or drugs in his system.  Wendy's group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/kratomdangerawareness   https://kratomdangerawareness.org Scientific studies discussed by Charlie at end about kratom as a cause of death: * Papsun, D. M., Schroeder, W., Brower, J....

Jacob and Charlie read some listener comments and discuss the growth of the kratom industry and the podcast.  Nick is almost three years clean off of kratom and shares how we need more kratom-specific recovery awareness and resources. Decima talks about kratom regulation in Mississippi. Study Jacob referenced about explosion of kratom market: https://www.maximizemarketresearch.com/market-report/kr...