Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin
Justified Posteriors
Explorations into the economics of AI and innovation. Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin discuss academic papers and essays at the intersection of economics and technology. empiricrafting.substack.com
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Jun 29, 2026
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Litigating the Pope's AI Encyclical with the Lawyers of Scaling Laws Pod 29.06.2026 1:15:41
In this episode of Justified Posteriors , we host Alan Rozenshtein and Kevin Frazier — the law-professor duo behind Lawfare’s Scaling Laws — to take two of the most-discussed AI policy documents of the spring and subject them to an inquisition. Our disputors are probably not what Pope Leo anticipated: two lawyers, two economists, and probably 3/4ths Jewish. Talk about a crossover episode! First up...
Ioana Marinescu on Insuring Workers for AI, Monopsony, and Philosophy 15.06.2026 1:19:58
This week we’re joined by Ioana Marinescu , labor economist at the University of Pennsylvania’s School of Social Policy & Practice , former Principal Economist at the U.S. Department of Justice Antitrust Division , and a member of Anthropic’s Economic Advisory Board . Ioana is one of the people who put labor-market monopsony on the antitrust map, and she’s now thinking hard about what the social s...
Kevin Bryan on Bottlenecks, AI in China, and What Economists Should Actually Be Working On 01.06.2026 1:37:22
This week we to with Kevin Bryan , Associate Professor of Strategy at the University of Toronto’s Rotman School , author of the legendary economics blog A Fine Theorem , co-founder of the ed-tech startup All Day TA , and the man behind one of the most-discussed Twitter/X feeds in econ, @Afinetheorem . Kevin recently published a multi-book review of the economics of AI in the Journal of Economic Li...
Seb Krier on AGI, the Coasean Singularity, and EDM 19.05.2026 1:23:18
Seb Krier on AGI, Scaffolding, and Coasean Bargaining at Scale In this episode of Justified Posteriors , we welcome Seb Krier — policy lead for AGI at Google DeepMind and excellent Twitter poster. Speaking in his personal capacity, Seb walks us through his understanding of AGI, why AI alignment has gone better than expected, the potential and limitations of a world where agents constantly barter o...
Avi Goldfarb on Prediction Machines, O-Ring Tasks, and How AI is Reshaping Economics 04.05.2026 1:20:50
This week, we’re joined by Avi Goldfarb , one of the leading economists of artificial intelligence and co-author of Prediction Machines . Avi has been thinking seriously about AI economics long before the ChatGPT shock, so we asked him what he thinks the earlier framework got right, what it missed, and how economists should update their beliefs now. The conversation starts with Avi’s seminal book,...
The classic model that shows why AI exposure could increase wages 20.04.2026 1:03:45
Get full access to Justified Posteriors at empiricrafting.substack.com/subscribe This week, instead of reviewing a recent paper on AI, we go back to a 1993 classic: Michael Kremer’s “The O-Ring Theory of Economic Development.” It’s one of those papers that feels larger than its formal model. The setup is extremely simple: production consists of many tasks, and output depends on all of them going r...
The Most Important Philosophical Treatise of the 21st Century? 07.04.2026 1:27:51
This week, instead of reviewing an economics paper, we reviewed a work of philosophy—perhaps the most important one of this young millennium so far. Anthropic published its new constitution for Claude in January 2026, and we read the whole thing so you don’t have to. Sometimes it reads like the US Constitution, laying out the basic law, sometimes like the Federalist Papers discussing itself. In pa...
Alex Imas - Demand Collapse, Bargaining with Machines, and Behavioral AI Economics 23.03.2026 1:33:42
University of Chicago behavioral economist Alex Imas joins us for a conversation on AI, economic growth, behavioral economics, and the future of science. We discuss whether AI could ever lead to negative growth, why simple “automation means abundance” stories may miss important welfare effects, and how behavioral economics changes the way we think about satiation, meaning, and human preferences in...
The Economics of Book Slop 10.03.2026 1:07:56
In this episode, Seth and Andrey break down AI and the Quantity and Quality of Creative Products: Have LLMs Boosted Creation of Valuable Books? by Imke Reimers and Joel Waldfogel, presented at the NBER Digital Economics and AI conference. Imke and Joel are a great team of digitization researchers, with particular expertise in Amazon book sales data. The paper uses Amazon data to ask whether AI has...
Noah Smith on Blogging, AI Economics, and Elite Overproduction 24.02.2026 1:30:14
We sit down with prominent blogger and economist Noah Smith to dig into the disconnect between AI hype and current macroeconomic reality. The central puzzle: if a “god machine” driving 20% annual GDP growth is truly imminent, why aren’t real interest rates skyrocketing as people borrow against a much wealthier future? Noah’s take is that markets are pricing in significant growth, but not civilizat...
Basil Halperin: Leading Indicators for TAI, Conditions for the Singularity, and Tax Policy at the End of History 09.02.2026 1:29:29
In this week’s episode of Justified Posteriors, we interview TAI expert and friend of the show Basil Halperin of the University of Virginia. There Basil is doing some of the most fascinating work on the economics of TAI with Anton Korinek and other leading researchers. The first section of our conversation covers Basil’s early career, including jobs at Uber and AQI, how he got interested in AI as...
Can an AI Interview You Better Than a Human? 26.01.2026 1:00:56
We discuss “ Voice in AI Firms: A Natural Field Experiment on Automated Job Interviews ” by Brian Jabarian and Luca Henkel. The paper examines a randomized experiment with call center job applicants in the Philippines who were assigned to either AI-conducted voice interviews, human interviews, or given a choice between the two. Key Findings: * AI interviews led to higher job offer rates and propor...
Anecdotes from AI Supercharged Science 13.01.2026 1:07:14
Anecdotes of AI Supercharged Science: Justified Posteriors reads “Early Science Acceleration Experiments with GPT-5” In this episode, Seth and Andrey break down OpenAI’s report, Early Science Acceleration Experiments with GPT-5 . The paper is organized as a series of anecdotes about how top scientists used an early version of GPT-5 in their scientific investigations. The coauthors of the papers tr...
Ben Golub: AI Referees, Social Learning, and Virtual Currencies 29.12.2025 1:16:13
In this episode, we sit down with Ben Golub , economist at Northwestern University, to talk about what happens when AI meets academic research, social learning, and network theory. We start with Ben’s startup Refine , an AI-powered technical referee for academic papers. From there, the conversation ranges widely: how scholars should think about tooling, why “slop” is now cheap, how eigenvalues exp...
Are We There Yet? Evaluating METR’s Eval of AI’s Ability to Complete Tasks of Different Lengths 15.12.2025 1:06:09
Seth and Andrey are back to evaluating an AI evaluation, this time discussing METR’s paper “Measuring AI Ability to Complete Long Tasks.” The paper’s central claim is that the “effective horizon” of AI agents—the length of tasks they can complete autonomously—is doubling every 7 months. Extrapolate that, and AI handles month-long projects by decade’s end. They discuss the data and the assumptions...
Epistemic Apocalypse and Prediction Markets (Bo Cowgill Pt. 2) 02.12.2025 1:02:19
We continue our conversation with Columbia professor Bo Cowgill. We start with a detour through Roman Jakobson’s six functions of language (plus two bonus functions Seth insists on adding: performative and incantatory). Can LLMs handle the referential? The expressive? The poetic? What about magic ? The conversation gets properly technical as we dig into Crawford-Sobel cheap talk models, the collap...
Does AI Cheapen Talk? (Bo Cowgill Pt. 1) 18.11.2025 53:26
In this episode, we brought on our friend Bo Cowgill , to dissect his forthcoming Management Science paper, Does AI Cheapen Talk? The core question is one economists have been circling since Spence drew a line on the blackboard: What happens when a technology makes costly signals cheap? If GenAI allows anyone to produce polished pitches, résumés, and cover letters, what happens to screening, hirin...
Evaluating GDPVal, OpenAI's Eval for Economic Value 04.11.2025 1:04:04
In this episode of Justified Posteriors podcast, Seth and Andrey discuss “GDPVal” a new set of AI evaluations, really a novel approach to AI evaluation, from OpenAI. The metric is debuted in a new OpenAI paper, “ GDP Val: Evaluating AI Model Performance on Real-World, Economically Valuable Tasks. ” We discuss this “bottom-up” approach to the possible economic impact of AI (which evaluates hundreds...
Will Super-Intelligence's Opportunity Costs Save Human Labor? 21.10.2025 51:39
In this episode, Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin read “We Won’t Be Missed: Work and Growth in the AGI World” by Pascual Restrepo (Yale) to understand what how AGI will change work in the long run. A common metaphor for the post AGI economy is to compare AGIs to humans and men to ants. Will the AGI want to keep the humans around? Some argue that they would — there’s the possibility of useful exchan...
Can political science contribute to the AI discourse? 07.10.2025 58:19
Economists generally see AI as a production technology, or input into production. But maybe AI is actually more impactful as unlocking a new way of organizing society. Finish this story: * The printing press unlocked the Enlightenment — along with both liberal democracy and France’s Reign of Terror * Communism is primitive socialism plus electricity * The radio was an essential prerequisite for fa...
Should AI Read Without Permission? 22.09.2025 55:06
Many of today’s thinkers and journalists worry that AI models are eating their lunch: hoovering up these authors’ best ideas and giving them away for free or nearly free. Beyond fairness, there is a worry that these authors will stop producing valuable content if they can’t be compensated for their work. On the other hand, making lots of data freely accessible makes AI models better, potentially i...
EMERGENCY POD: Is AI already causing youth unemployment? 09.09.2025 51:45
In our first ever EMERGENCY PODCAST, co-host Seth Benzell is summoned out of paternity leave by Andrey Fradkin to discuss the AI automation paper that’s making headlines around the world. The paper is Canaries in the Coal Mine? Six Facts about the Recent Employment Effects of Artificial Intelligence by Erik Brynjolfsson, Bharat Chandar, and Ruyu Chen. The paper is being heralded as the first evide...
AI and its labor market effects in the knowledge economy 25.08.2025 56:30
In this episode, we discuss a new theoretical framework for understanding how AI integrates into the economy. We read the paper Artificial Intelligence and the Knowledge Economy (Ide & Talamas, JPE), and debate whether AI will function as a worker , a manager , or an expert . Read on to learn more about the model, our thoughts, timestamp, and at the end, you can spoil yourself on Andrey and Seth’s...
One LLM to rule them all? 12.08.2025 1:02:01
In this special episode of the Justified Posteriors Podcast , hosts Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin dive into the competitive dynamics of large language models (LLMs). Using Andrey’s working paper, Demand for LLMs: Descriptive Evidence on Substitution, Market Expansion, and Multihoming , they explore how quickly new models gain market share, why some cannibalize predecessors while others expand th...
What can we learn from AI exposure measures? 28.07.2025 1:11:43
In a Justified Posteriors first, hosts Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin sit down with economist Daniel Rock, assistant professor at Wharton and AI2050 Schmidt Science Fellow, to unpack his groundbreaking research on generative AI, productivity, exposure scores, and the future of work. Through a wide-ranging and insightful conversation, the trio examines how exposure to AI reshapes job tasks and why...
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