Just Lawful

The JL boys continue trying to separate fact from fallacy as this two-sided tale continues and differing versions of this young man’s mindset simply reposes the question, victim or villain? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Even with a verdict delivered Sean and Daniel find there is still so much to be understood about this case including finally discovering the cause of the first trial that never existed. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The JL boys are back and pick up where they left off with revelations of an internet search history that offers a unique insight into Wei Li’s actions in the days after his mother’s death. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sean and Daniel walk us through one of their most intriguing episodes ever as the accused takes the stand and while providing many answers they spawned only more questions.  Differing accounts and contradicting reasons offered would cause JL boys to question all they thought knew so far and with yet another twist we seem still no closer to a resolution. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy info...

As the JL boys start out this episode it seems to be a case “show and no tell” as we are teased with the set up and no reveal about why the first trial in this case never existed.  It isn’t long before Sean and Daniel do get answers though as they unpack details of the trial and the incident, and continuely challenge our thinking from one moment to next. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy inf...

The JL boys start out this episode at a frenetic pace which appears to mirror the state of the newsroom as the news broke that Wei Li had been located and arrested at Sydney airport.  And while Sean and Daniel begin to receive responses to so many unanswered questions these are then paralleled by the need for even more answers as even more questions arise. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy i...

Sean and Daniel commence peeling back the first layers of this case via cultural sensitivities, constricted channels of communication and the ability to be concealed in foreign countries. The JL boys once again challenge the thinking and potential bias of us all and the general populous of the time as well worn stereotypes play out in parallel of the telling of this tragedy. See omnystudio.com/lis...

The JL boys begin their next series and before we even get into the case itself it becomes apparent that this one is going to be a challenge of our thinking and potential bias. As Sean and Daniel begin we soon discover that an alleged murder is like a metaphorical pebble dropped into a pond where each ripple soon uncovers many more layers of intrigue. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy inform...

Sean puts Daniels and our listeners through their paces as it’s time for part two of our assessment and even if we achieved a part one pass mark how will we fare this time? The JL boys continue to unpack this intriguing case where once you scratch the surface it continues to produce for more circumstance for consideration than appears at first glance. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy inform...

It’s assessment time as the JL boys take us all to school and test our knowledge, recollection and comprehension of all they covered and all we learned in the previous episodes about bail. Sean asks the questions as Daniel does his best impersonation of a magistrate using a real bail application to test our understanding and provide twists and turns all of its own. See omnystudio.com/listener for...

In this episode Sean and Daniel discuss the harsh reality of how bail has affected our community, it’s recent history and the tragic impacts in a real life example of heartbreak. The JL boys now deconstruct a “third layer” of circumstances, beyond innocent until proven guilty and taking a prosecution case at its highest, which preclude some to qualify for bail. See omnystudio.com/listener for priv...

As the JL boys continue to investigate and unpack all of the considerations involved in deciding if an alleged offender receives bail it doesn’t seem to be getting any simpler. Sean discusses the feedback he has received that his previous comments have elicited as Daniel tries to comprehend the theoretical and practical elements of a paradox known as bail. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy i...

Sean and Daniel tackle their next subject as they once again do their very best to unpack, educate on and demystify all of the elements, this time as they tackle the concept of bail The JL boys examine all of the factors that make up something many of have heard of, yet likely don’t really know, including implications, iterations, regulations and considerations. See omnystudio.com/listener for pri...

The JL boys find themselves trying to prise fact from fiction as a history of friction is uncovered in this ongoing tale of sloshed drinks, turtlenecks and Harry Potter scars. Sean and Daniel find an elevated level of levity in between navigating differing accounts of events, interstate restrictions and one witness always having a story, no matter the question.  See omnystudio.com/listener for pri...

The JL boys finally give us all an opportunity to exhale as they slide into a long needed palette cleanser and while the boys are a little more lighthearted this one is still no laughing matter. Between politics alignments and proposed allegations Sean and Daniel attempt to unpick this tale where the circumstances certainly appear to be beneath civility and societal class. See omnystudio.com/liste...

As the inspiring and informative conversation concludes between the JL boys and Steve and Jordan from JACET the mood shifts from pursuing offenders to protecting children in the future. Both Sean and Daniel speak of their gratitude to share this conversation with the listeners before recapping all they’ve learned, a few surprises along the way and then what’s next. See omnystudio.com/listener for...

As the JL boys continue their conversation with Steve and Jordan from JACET, conversation moves into discussing some of the faces of Mt. Disgustmore and their involvement with them. While Sean and Daniel are both fascinated and inspired by the difficult work done by all of the enforcement agencies involved they find there’s always a space for levity and a laugh. See omnystudio.com/listener for pri...

In this episode the JL boys bring us the first part of the first ever audio interview with the members of JACET as part of their promotion of the start of National Child Protection Week. Sean and Daniel begin to learn about what it takes to do this work and they have their understanding on the focus of the role shifted from arresting offenders to rescuing victims. See omnystudio.com/listener for p...

In this episode the JL boys wrestle with the concept of how is that the best truly equals the worst while reminding us that for every number discussed is also a victim who has been hurt. Sean and Daniel reveal the 4th and final face to take its rightful place upon Mt Disgustmore and while each previous face set and broke records this one sets to surpass them all. See omnystudio.com/listener for pr...

As the JL boys begin to carve out the 2nd and 3rd faces of Mt Disgustmore we see how the extent of these crimes challenge how both law enforcement and the legal system responds. While the depravity of this criminal behaviour creates unease for our community Sean and Daniel also provide a raw insight into the effects these cases have on them personally.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy info...

In this new series Sean and Daniel make good on an idea they promised us since the end of last year. That’s where the good ends however as they highlight the worst of the worst. The JL boys begin carving out the first face of foul depravity that has broken records and proven for all the good our city has to offer we are living in the shadow of Mt. Disgustmore. See omnystudio.com/listener for priva...

As Sean and Daniel begin the conclusion of one of their most in-depth series it leads off with some of the most direct and decisive Judge’s comments they have encountered. The heat doesn’t cool down as the JL boys unpack all of the fallout and determine that John Fleming ultimately placed himself in a position of “checkmate” all of his own making. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informatio...

It’s no joke as Sean and Daniel tell us the one about “three priests walk into a courtroom”. It gets no funnier however as defense witnesses have their stories queried and questioned. The JL boys then take time out to check in on what they’ve felt, interpreted and considered about all they’ve heard and what they believe to be true based on the balance of probability. See omnystudio.com/listener fo...

As the defense witnesses take the stand the JL boys quickly begin to comprehend the overall complexity of the contradictions, context and  considerations from the tales being tendered. Sean and Daniel discuss the gaps and the inconsistencies of the stories being presented and unpack the importance of the specifics around terminology, perspective and morality. See omnystudio.com/listener for privac...