Josh Bersin

Josh Bersin

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Insights on Corporate Talent, Learning, and HR Technology

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Josh Bersin

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Latest episode

Oct 27, 2026

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Can AI Replace Human Intuition? I Think Not, And Here’s Why It Matters. 26.07.2025

After many dozens of conversations with companies and AI vendors about AI transforming work, I’m left with one burning question. If we actually succeed in automating all our work tasks, data analysis, coding, and content generation, are these systems truly able to replace humans? I”m left with a very simple answer: NO. And the reason for this is not that AI won’t keep getting &#8...

America’s AI Action Plan, Quick Perspectives 24.07.2025

Yesterday the White House released The American AI Action Plan , a 28-page policy document which covers many of the most important national (and global issues) we face in the new world of AI. As I briefly discuss today, there are many fantastic policy positions in here (a few odd ones, but they’ll be worked out over time) and the bottom line is that the US Federal Government now has a deep u...

Democracy vs. Autocracy In Leadership, Which Way Should You Go? 22.07.2025

One of the most fundamental issues in business is “how we make decisions.” Should top management make all the decisions? Or should we let front-line staff collaborate and weigh in on company strategies. Well in the political sphere, we’re testing these two models out in real time. And as I discuss, the “democratic” model leads to economies with higher levels of growth...

The Four “New SoftSkills” We Need To Thrive In The Age of AI 19.07.2025

Now that everyone is deep into AI transformation and flooded with personal productivity tools, it’s time to take a step back and consider “what new capabilities (not skills) do we need to thrive here?” Well after 60+ interviews and discussions with hundreds of companies so far, I want to share the four “big things” that drive success. These are the essential new skill...

Explaining The Massive People Data Market: How It Works & What You Need To Know 16.07.2025

This week Lightcast, one of the largest providers of people, jobs, and labor market data, acquired Rhetorik, a leading data collection company. Since this space has become highly strategic and ever-more essential to HR leaders (and it’s just getting more important with AI), I decided to try to explain the space . In this podcast I explain the difference between data collection companies, dat...

Fear In The Workforce: Why Workers Are Afraid And What To Do About It. 11.07.2025

This week I had a variety of meetings with companies and looked at some new research on the impact of AI in the workplace. Despite all the positive things going on in the economy, a strong signal came back about fear. A large percentage of workers are fearful for their jobs and the impact of AI, so I unpacked the topic this week. (Note: this podcast was recorded on a long walk so it’s slight...

Prompting Is Programming: We’re All Software Engineers Now! 05.07.2025

One of the most explosive changes in our new world of AI is this: every one of us can now “program” our AI assistants as if we were engineers. In other words, the “prompts” we conceive and use as queries are actually instructions, so we, as non-engineers (I am an engineer, but long ago), can now “program” and direct our AI friends to do what we want. Not only is...

Maki People: Maxime Legardez Coquin Reimagines Recruitment with AI Agents 01.07.2025

Max Legardez Coquin is one of the most fascinating entrepreneurs I’ve met. His new company, Maki People , is likely to revolutionize talent acquisition, and then revolutionize much of talent management. In this interview I ask Max to explain his fascinating background and how he sees AI Agents revolutionizing the entire process of screening, assessment, and talent management. Maki People use...

How AI Architectures Are Different, And Why This Changes Everything 26.06.2025

In this episode I discuss our findings on AI systems architectures, and how they are going to completely change our HR Technology stack. As you’ll hear, I’m not predicting a quick disruption of $50+ billion in corporate software, but over the next decade we will see a quantum shift . (Quantum meaning “from A to B” not a gradual transformation.) Listen in and you’ll se...

Understanding The Middle East: Business, Culture, and Leadership 22.06.2025

This week we finished a series of events in Riyadh, Abu Dhabi, and Dubai and met with more than 100 company HR leaders. In today’s podcast I discuss the business and HR issues these companies face and more significantly give perspectives on the management culture in these fast-growing companies. We discuss AI transformation in detail and I also explain why the “mass layoffs” idea...

A Rise In Pessimism. Five Suggestions From Our Research And My Life. 12.06.2025

New research shows a level of pessimism we haven’t seen in a long time. While there are many reasons for this (politics, climate, economy, AI fears), we all need to do something about it. In this podcast I share the research and give you five important steps you can take to avoid, reduce, and eliminate pessimism at work. (Optimism, certainty, growth, citizenship, and empathy.) This framework...

Suzanne McGovern, CHRO of Ipsy 11.06.2025

Suzanne McGovern , CHRO of Ipsy , has many years of experience in consulting, HR, DEI, and business growth (PwC, IBM, Splunk) and now leads HR for a billion dollar beauty company. In this thought-proving interview, Suzanne explains how the CHRO role has now become an “outside-in” C-level role and how complex and “mission-centric” the CHRO role can be. Suzanne also believes...

Building An AI-Powered Superworker Company: Five Keys To Success 06.06.2025

This week I summarize my Irresistible Keynote and explain the five keys to building an AI-powered Superworker company. And as you’ll hear, they revolve around the value of people, not the value of technology. It’s funny how we think AI is “different” and we personify it. It’s basically a tech platform, and if you think about it that way you’ll be much better off...

How Mastercard Uses AI to Rewire HR for Employee and Business Performance 04.06.2025

Anshul Sheopuri , Executive Vice President, People Operations & Insights, Mastercard, talks with Kathi Enderes about the company’s method for using AI in HR. From Build vs Buy decisions and approaches to govern the roll-out of AI to specific examples of use cases, he explains how to use AI strategically across a fast-growing, tech-first company at the forefront of AI innovation—and he gi...

How WPP, The World’s Leading Ad Agency, Is Transforming Itself With AI 03.06.2025

This is a fascinating conversation with Josh Newman , the Global Head of People Strategy & Experience, at WPP . WPP, the world’s leading advertising agency, has around 110,000 employees and a fascinating agency-specific organization around the world. Josh explains the business and operating model for WPP, and how it became an $8.1 Billion market cap business. Over the last year WPP&#8217...

Why AI Is A Job Creator, Not A Job Destroyer 31.05.2025

Recent comments from Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei claims that we’ll have a “white collar bloodbath” in jobs and 50% of jobs are going away, leading to 20% unemployment. I believe this is completely incorrect, and in this podcast I explain why. Tech leaders may have a distorted perspective because so much of their energies go into pure software development – there’s a mu...

Cornerstone Galaxy. How To Think About Your Enterprise Learning Platform. 29.05.2025

This week I discuss Cornerstone Galaxy , the new, integrated version of Cornerstone, which includes Skyhive, Edcast, Grovo, Tailspin, and other technologies built in. As you’ll hear, Cornerstone is the largest enterprise learning platform company in the world and they’re getting very aggressive with bundling, pricing, and features. At the same time I discuss the role of other competito...

Tanuj Kapilashrami, Chief Strategy Officer at Standard Chartered 24.05.2025

This is a fascinating and essential podcast about leadership, AI, HR, and business transformation, featuring Tanuj Kapilashrami , the CHRO and Chief Strategy Officer of Standard Chartered . In this conversation, Tanuj talks about the strategic direction of Standard Chartered Bank, her role as Chief Strategy and Talent Officer, and the importance of aligning organizational capabilities with busines...

Introducing Galileo Learn™, A Bold New Platform for Corporate Learning 21.05.2025

Welcome to Galileo Learn, the world’s first AI-native platform for all areas of corporate learning and professional development. And yes, Galileo Learn is also the new, dynamic version of The Josh Bersin Academy, and also your personal professional development coach. As the world’s first AI native platform for learning, Galileo Learn delivers an exciting new learning experience and the...

Digital Twins, The Curiosity Cycle, And Radical Changes In Corporate Learning 15.05.2025

This week I dig into digital twins and AI and why I believe the “pedagogical” approach to corporate learning is going away. While we will always have educational programs in business, the L&D world is going in a wild new, positive direction. This podcast explains the forgetting curve, spaced learning, and what I call “the curiosity cycle” in business. Does this mean &#8...

AI Creates High-Scale, High-Quality Recruitment Process at Foundever 12.05.2025

In this episode we hear from Irena Flego Maric , Global Talent Acquisition Leader and HR Technology Strategist at Foundever , one of the largest customer service companies in the world. She describes how the company is transforming its highly demanding recruitment process with next-gen AI. The company uses Maki People’s AI-powered solution to manage massive scale of hiring, sometimes recruiting 2,...

The “Workflow-Ization” Of All HR Software – AI Changes Everything 09.05.2025

This week I discuss the total re-engineering of HR and business software and why the “functional application” approach is going to be destroyed by workflow-oriented systems. I apologize for the slightly awkward voice, I recorded this on a long walk this morning!  I discuss ServiceNow , Maki People , Galileo , Hubspot , Salesforce , HiBob , Workday , SAP , Paradox , and many other innov...

Galileo Now Embedded Within ServiceNow and HiBob 07.05.2025

This week we announce the deep integration of Galileo , the world’s AI Assistant for HR, into ServiceNow (Now Assist) and the fast-growing HCM system HiBob . This means you can now access Galileo in the flow of work. Additional Information Announcement Details The Mercury Release of Galileo Signals a New Era for Intelligent Agents Q&A: Get Galileo for ServiceNow Q&A: Get Galileo for...

Welcome To AI Agent World! (Everything you need to know about the AI Agent market.) 02.05.2025

This week, in advance of major announcements from us and other vendors, I give you a good overview of the AI Agent market, and discuss the new role of AI governance platforms, AI agent development tools, AI agent vendors, and how AI agents will actually manifest and redefine what we call an “application.” I discuss ServiceNow, Microsoft, SAP, Workday, Paradox , Maki People , and other...

Dara Engle, CHRO of ORIX, Describes Global HR Governance 01.05.2025

In this episode of the WhatWorks podcast, Dara Engle , CHRO of ORIX USA, speaks with Kathi Enderes to explore the power of systemic HR in transforming a global organization. Discover how Dara navigates the complexities of leading HR in a multinational context, leveraging her extensive experience to drive strategic alignment and transformation. From building resilient cultures to managing change in...

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