Josh Bersin

Josh Bersin

Business EN ↓ 378 episodes

Insights on Corporate Talent, Learning, and HR Technology

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Josh Bersin

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Business

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joshbersin.com

Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

The End Of The American Dream? How Automation Works To Your Advantage (or Not). E204 07.12.2024

What do we do about the American Dream? This week I discuss the explosion of employee and citizen activation (NYC UHG CEO, for example) and how the US economy has not been delivering for 2/3 of the workforce. And in that discussion I challenge HR and business leaders to re-engineer jobs and work around what we call Superworkers, all with a goal of using AI to increase customer service, scale, qual...

WhatWorks: Sanford Health Develops Mission-Driven Leaders at All Levels. E203 03.12.2024

Linda Kirchhevel , Director, Talent & Leadership Development at Sanford Health talks with Kathi Enderes about their leadership development program. Linda discusses how the organization’s frequent mergers caused them to prioritize creating a unique leadership framework centered around the mission of the organization. (Sanford Health is the largest rural healthcare provider in the United S...

How To Accelerate The Productivity Benefits of AI? Four Stages of AI Adoption. E202 29.11.2024

AI tools are rapidly sweeping across our companies in every job function, and most of us see them as “productivity tools.” Well, that’s a very limited view of the future. While AI may make you 15-20% more productive, the big payoff comes when we rethink work entirely and let AI systems take over as “autonomous agents,” albeit with our support. In this podcast I discus...

People Analytics: The Next Big Step Has Arrived. Get Ready. E201 22.11.2024

Companies have been investing in People Analytics and Industrial Psychology since the late 1800s, going back to Fredrick Taylor (time and motion studies) and Carl Jung (psychological types). The original idea was to scientifically manage work, using data to measure labor, strength, motion, and later engagement, skills, and leadership. All this effort resulted in thousands of books and tools to mea...

Can One AI Agent Do Everything? How To Redesign Jobs for AI? HR Expertise And A Big Future for L&D. E200 17.11.2024

This week I summarize my meetings and discussions with clients in NYC and you can see we covered many topics. Here’s the AI summary, which is pretty good. In this conversation, Josh Bersin discusses the evolving landscape of AI platforms, particularly focusing on Microsoft’s positioning and the challenges of creating a universal AI agent. He delves into the complexities of government e...

How AI Changes Organizations, Institutions, and Society. E199 13.11.2024

In today’s podcast I discuss the organizational, institutional, and societal impacts of AI. And I’m not predicting what “could happen” but rather sharing “what is happening now.” As you’ll hear, AI plays a role in our political issues but an even greater role in our careers, pay, rewards, organization structure, and culture. A recent AI adoption study by M...

What’s Holding Back People Analytics? Discussion with Paul Rubenstein from Visier. E198 11.11.2024

After decades of effort and growth, only around 10% of People Analytics teams deliver strategic business value. Many are still focused on traditional analysis of engagement, retention, leadership pipelines, and other HR measures. In this WhatWorks podcast I talk openly with Paul Rubenstein, the Chief Customer Officer at Visier, about how this market has evolved. And in the conversation you can lea...

Diversity, Inclusion, DEI, and Wellbeing In The Trump Era E197 08.11.2024

This week I discuss the issue of DEI (must it DIE?), inclusion, and corporate culture in the Trump Era. We just completed a 1.5 hour discussion with 30+ companies on the impact of the 2024 election and regardless of your political position, some people are worried. It’s clear to me that DEI (or whatever you call it) is not going away, but in this podcast I reframe the topic and give you pers...

The History of Franklin Covey And The Enduring Model Of Leadership E196 06.11.2024

In this episode of the WhatWorks podcast, Paul Walker, CEO of FranklinCovey , talks with Kathi Enderes about FranklinCovey’s history, his own journey of 25 years with the company from frontline employee to CEO, and how the company helps large organizations like Marriott enable transformational change through individual behavior change, execution excellence, creating a culture of trust and pe...

AI Can Do Even More Than You Thought. Why Every Employee Will Have A Digital Assistant. E195 01.11.2024

This week I discuss how major new AI use-cases have emerged. Imagine if every employee had a personal AI assistant? It’s going to happen. I also discuss LinkedIn Hiring Assistan t, Galileo , SuccessFactors Joule, AI for performance management, and a big question: what are you going to do with the 35% productivity you gain? Coming back from multiple weeks on the road with clients and vendors,...

Job Task Re-Engineering With AI: A Massive Opportunity Ahead – E194 25.10.2024

In this week’s podcast I discuss the trend (and need) for job task re-engineering: breaking down our jobs into tasks, so we can effectively use AI and Agents to speed things up. As more and more vendors announce AI Agents to assist with work, our best opportunity for massive improvement is to “re-engineer” how we do things, not just “add agents” to our current jobs. A...

WhatWorks: Mastercard Evolves To Systemic HR™ – E193 23.10.2024

In this episode of the WhatWorks podcast series, Nick Benaquista, SVP, People and Capability Partner, Chief Administration Office and Strategic Growth at Mastercard, shares how Mastercard has transformed HR from a static, siloed, overlapping model towards the product and consulting-oriented model of Systemic HR . Now in year 2 of the ongoing transformation, the company is continuing to change HR r...

Digital Twins, AI-Powered ERP, Agentic Tools, AI War Against Candidates E192 19.10.2024

White collar robots have arrived: digital twins, digital assistants, and AI-powered agents. In this podcast I discuss what I learned about at Unleash, Sana, and Spotify this week. My big message is this: AI in HR is even more powerful than we expected. And AI platforms and tools are transforming HR right this minute – across every domain in HR. Digital Twins in the insurance industry. AI-pow...

What Works: Delta Air Lines Unveils Its Skills-First Strategy E191 14.10.2024

Delta Air Lines understands the importance of its employees, managers, and leaders, so the company has built one of the airline industry’s most advanced “skills-first” strategies. Built on its investment in SAP technology ( Talent Intelligence Hub ) and a focus from the top, the company fully embraces an agile cross-functional career model, all built around skills . In this episo...

Forgiveness, Growth, And Reinvention In The Age Of AI E190 11.10.2024

I just finished a long meeting with 15 senior HR leaders in Silicon Valley, so in the context of AI, I discuss the themes of forgiveness, growth, and leadership these organizations are facing. And these issues are acute right now. 2025 is shaping up to be a “Year of Redesign” throughout business, and as we do this we have to rethink about how we think about people. Are we ready to supp...

The Launch Of Galileo™ Professional and The Galileo Success Center E189 08.10.2024

This week we are so excited to launch Galileo Professional , the personal AI platform designed for HR professionals, consultants, vendors, and investors in the global Human Resources industry. As you’ll hear in my introduction, Galileo Pro is Your Personal AI Assistant for everything HR. For $39 per month you now have access to the most trusted corpus of HR research in the world, including e...

What’s Coming In 2025, AI Updates, Jobs Number, And Our Big Announcement Next Week E188 05.10.2024

In this week’s podcast I give you some insights on HR tech in 2025, perspectives on jobs, and what you’ll be dealing with in 2025. We just had two weeks of HR Tech announcements and next week you’ll see a big one from us! (The biggest product announcement in my career, to be a little hyberbolic!). Topics include: the verticalization of AI, whey OpenAI will compete with Microsoft,...

Flexible Shifts In Hospitality: Aimbridge Uses AI To Schedule Workers E187 02.10.2024

Aimbridge manages 1100 hotels around the US and employs more than 45,000 employees. In this podcast, Conrad Riddle, VP of HR Shared Services at Aimbridge Hospitality, discusses how the company empowers employees (“Uberizing the Workforce”) and delivers a flexible, highly engaged workforce with dynamic workforce scheduling. The company leverages UKG Workforce Management to give employee...

Live from HR Technology 2024: A Detailed Look At The AI Trailblazers! E186 27.09.2024

In this week’s podcast I go through the 30 HR Technology AI Trailblazers in some detail. You’ll hear about all the companies in the Trailblazer Report , as well as some of my personal thoughts on their leadership teams, centers of innovation, and differentiating capabilities. My keynote at HR Tech was 75 minutes long and you can hear it or get access to the materials if you join our co...

Workday Illuminate, Salesforce slams Microsoft, Even More Agents, and Why Boeing Teaches Us A Lesson E185 20.09.2024

This podcast details what Workday’s new AI platform, Workday Illuminate , and also describes Workday’s momentum coming out of Rising. I also discuss why Salesforce slams Microsoft, the new tsunami of Agents, including Microsoft, Salesforce (who is charging $2 per conversation), SAP, Workday, UKG, ServiceNow, and others. I also discuss the near-term job disruption we’re seeing fro...

What Works: How to Build a Fantastic Employee Experience in Industrial Distribution E184 18.09.2024

In our latest WhatWorks podcast, Samantha Garvie , HR Safety and Compliance Director at Rowley’s Wholesale, speaks with Kathi Enderes from The Josh Bersin Company. Rowley’s Wholesale , a Michigan-based distributor of automotive and industrial products, has been in business for over 100 years and is currently in its third generation of ownership. With 125+ employees across three locatio...

Klarna Claims AI Will Replace Workday. Unlikely Scenario But Points To A New Future. E183 13.09.2024

This week Klarna, a buy-now pay-later company in Sweden, announced plans to terminate its Workday and Salesforce relationships and build it themselves. A bunch of tech pundits are big fans, but I have my doubts. As you’ll hear in the podcast, many big companies (much bigger than Klarna) have tried this, only to retreat to vendor solutions. And I do question the business strategy of putting h...

Agentic AI: The AI Agents That Will Change Our Companies E182 06.09.2024

Agentic AI is the next big wave in AI, where AI systems and chatbots can take actions on our behalf. These agents can perform tasks such as composing emails, creating documents, building courses, and even recruiting. They can be seen as virtual employees or teammates that can be trained and managed. These agents will change the technology landscape and the stack of tools in our organizations. They...

Celebrating Labor Day! Lots To Be Happy About, Lots To Consider. E181 30.08.2024

In this podcast I discuss the ever-changing role of Labor in our economy, our companies, and our own personal lives. The word “labor” is really an old-fashioned idea, but we still have the US holiday, so I wanted to unpack what it now means. As you’ll learn Labor Day is a time to think about hiring, pay, development, and diversity as well as productivity, labor unions, the impact...

The Role Of Assessments In A World Of AI: Learning From SHL – E180 28.08.2024

In this WhatWorks podcast I interview Andy Bradshaw, the CEO of SHL .  SHL is one of the world’s largest psychometric assessment vendors, bringing together psychology, skills assessment, and other forms of measurement to identify the capabilities, and potential of an individual at work. These highly scientific assessments are widely used for pre-hire screening, job-fit analysis, development...

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