Conversations with interesting and inspiring people
Joni McGary Talks with People
Joni McGary Talks with People is for anyone who's lost all faith in institutional narratives and theatrics and is wondering how to actually live well right now. Host Joni McGary (co-founded No College Mandates) has real conversations with researchers, doctors, writers, artists, and independent thinkers about everything from medical freedom and pandemic policies to beauty, craft, community, and what it means to rebuild relationships and society when trust has been crushed. It's thoughtful, relaxed, with no frenzied spin—just genuine talks with interesting people who know things. jonimcgary.subs...
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Jun 24, 2026
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The Hidden Cost of AI: How Hyperscale Data Centers are Transforming Indiana 24.06.2026 1:00:54
There is a massive data center buildout exploding across America, and Indiana has become one of the industry’s biggest target locations. I invited Ben Inskeep, Program Director of the Citizens Action Coalition, to talk about the rapid expansion of hyper-scale AI data centers and what it means for local communities. Ben reviews the huge energy and water demands of these facilities, the tax incentiv...
You Will Own Nothing: The Rise of Technocracy 03.06.2026 1:10:55
Most people have never heard the word "technocracy" and yet it may be one of the most important forces shaping our lives. I asked Patrick Wood, the world's foremost living expert on technocracy, to give us a Technocracy 101 lesson. Patrick has spent five decades researching this topic, and after reading his latest book, The New Economics of Technocracy: You Will Own Nothing , I was pretty bowled o...
Trillion-Dollar Pandemic Agendas: Starving Basic Health for Inflated Biosecurity 26.05.2026 1:14:36
I invited Professor Garrett Wallace Brown to discuss his work examining the data behind trillion-dollar global pandemic preparedness agendas and how those agendas are impacting the world’s poorest nations. The basic public health programs that save the most lives (malaria, tuberculosis, nutrition, sanitation, maternal health) are losing funding to biosecurity initiatives built on risk models that...
Dr. Meryl Nass on the Farm Crisis 19.05.2026 1:18:16
My guest today is Dr. Meryl Nass, a physician, researcher, and one of the wisest voices I know on the forces shaping our health, our food supply, and our liberty. We dig into the American farming crisis and the government policies that have hurt rather than helped independent farmers, and that appear to be putting our national food security at genuine risk. Meryl explains how federal farm programs...
3/11: Viral Takeover 12.05.2026 1:12:13
I was honored and delighted to speak with independent investigative journalist Sonia Elijah about her remarkable book 3/11 Viral Takeover: On March 11, 2020, a Pandemic was Declared and Our World Changed Forever. Elijah has written something truly unusual — a book that is packed with sourced and well-documented facts yet reads like a real thriller. She painstakingly details the pandemic simulation...
Is AI the Most Pressing Issue of Our Time? 05.05.2026 1:16:47
I sat down with Dave Rollo, a long-time Bloomington city council member with a background in biology and policy, who has spent the last few years studying the risks of advanced AI. We talk about why AI poses an existential threat, not only to our society, but to our continued existence as a species . Dave breaks down why top experts are genuinely frightened, and why the rest of us should be too. D...
Robyn Stylman on Breast Cancer and Charting Her Own Healing Path 28.04.2026 1:05:02
I recently invited my good friend Robyn Stylman to talk with me about how she navigated the treatment landscape after her breast cancer diagnosis. Robyn had already experienced how alternative treatments could heal, so when her diagnosis came, it was natural for her to look beyond the conventional playbook. We discuss how she researched and put together a personalized care plan using many differen...
What Ayahuasca Taught This Doctor That Conventional Medicine Couldn't 14.04.2026 1:11:14
Lisa Benink was an elderly care physician in the Netherlands who spent her career thoughtfully weaning vulnerable patients off the avalanche of drugs they’d been prescribed, watching them come alive again in the process. She was recognized for her skill and compassion by patients, their families, and the medical establishment at a national level. During COVID, she became disillusioned when she wit...
They branded it "Biosolids". It's Sewage. 08.04.2026 1:25:52
In 1993, the EPA rebranded toxic sewage sludge as “biosolids” and created a federal rule (40 CFR Part 503) that lets municipalities dump it on farmland near homes, schools, and drinking water supplies. Today, millions of tons are spread across tens of millions of American acres every year with virtually no disclosure and no testing for PFAS or hundreds of other known toxins. Paula Yockel lived thi...
Homeopathy: What It Is and How It Works 01.04.2026 1:15:12
I invited Certified Classical Homeopath Sarah Thompson to give me a Homeopathy 101 tutorial. For years I’d dismissed Homeopathy out of hand based on nothing more than my own Western medicine bias. Getting to know Sarah - a deeply intelligent and honest person who embraces this modality - made me want to learn more. Sarah shares the history of homeopathy, why it was suppressed, and why it works, ev...
The Problem is the Policy, Not the People 24.03.2026 1:15:05
Tension around the impact of homelessness in the city where I live has been growing. This is not unique to Bloomington, Indiana. It’s common across the country. The question of what to do about it divides well-meaning people. I realized recently that I have opinions about people experiencing homelessness based on no real knowledge of the issue. I certainly have no informed answers on what can be d...
Did We Trade a Civil Rights Movement for a Political One? 10.03.2026 1:20:59
I sat down again with researcher and author Debbie Lerman ( The Deep State Goes Viral ), who always teaches me something new and opens my mind. She argues that the COVID resistance wasn't a partisan movement, but a true populist civil rights movement concerned with freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and freedom of movement — all of them gutted by states of emergency that remain legally in pla...
The Tale as Old as Time 03.03.2026 1:13:46
In this episode, I speak with Tom Harrington, Professor Emeritus of Hispanic Studies at Trinity College and Fellow at the Brownstone Institute. Tom has a rare gift. He places current events in historical context in a way that makes the chaos feel a little less chaotic and a lot easier to navigate. We talk about linear time as a limiting cultural trap, the ancient playbook behind divide-and-rule, a...
Josh Stylman on the Nature of Our Reality 24.02.2026 1:14:21
I catch up with researcher and former tech entrepreneur Josh Stylman, who has spent years trying to understand the forces that shape our perception of reality. His four-part series on mind control, a topic that might seem “fringe” to the uninitiated, shows how it underpins almost everything we do. In this conversation, we cover a lot of topics: the history of psychological control, how the Covid r...
Parables from the Pandemic: Mark Oshinskie on Storytelling and Living with Gratitude and Joy 17.02.2026 1:03:50
I had a wonderful conversation with Mark Oshinskie, a gifted storyteller and writer whom I consider a society rebuilder. He is the author of the Substack “Dispatches from a Scamdemic” and two books: Dispatches from a Scamdemic: Why the Lockdowns, Masks, Tests and Shots Were Wrong from the Beginning and Coronamania Chronicles: True Stories Revealing the Covid Lies . I started reading his work early...
Dr. Mary Kelly Sutton's Fight for Doctor-Patient Autonomy 10.02.2026 1:03:26
Dr. Mary Kelly Sutton practiced integrative medicine for decades and was widely known as a compassionate, highly competent doctor and healer. She never had a patient complaint against her and indeed was beloved by her patients. Her practice was informed by her deeply held belief that a doctor should treat the patient in front of him or her without outside pressure, listen to and evaluate a patient...
Fighting for Liberty in New York State: A Lawyer's Stand Against Government Overreach 03.02.2026 52:02
Prior to the COVID lockdowns, Bobbie Anne Cox's law practice focused mostly on real estate law. That changed abruptly when clients began seeking her help fighting for their rights during the severe restrictions imposed by then-Governor Cuomo in New York. Bobbie talks about her path from property law to fighting government overreach, including her landmark lawsuit against Governor Hochul's quaranti...
Standing Up for Truth in Medicine: My Conversation with Dr. Mary Talley Bowden 27.01.2026 51:17
I sat down with the formidable Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, a Houston-based ENT doctor who was thrust onto the national stage for speaking out about what she was observing in her private practice during COVID, namely that the shots were not working and that ivermectin was. Houston Methodist Hospital suspended her hospital privileges and denounced her on X as a “dangerous spreader of misinformation” eve...
Breaking Up with Health Insurance: A Chat With CrowdHealth CEO Andy Schoonover 20.01.2026 1:05:33
I recently did something that not too long ago I would have considered unthinkable: I quit buying health insurance. Instead of remaining in a corrupt, over-priced, inefficient and consumer-hostile system, I joined CrowdHealth. The more I learned about it, the more enthusiastic I became—so much so that I reached out to ask if their CEO would come on my podcast. Within days, we’d scheduled a time to...
How the Fed Made Covid Lockdowns Possible: An Austrian Economics Perspective 30.12.2025 1:08:59
I sit down with Steve Berger, former Mises Institute Board member and a passionate student of Austrian economics. He views the COVID era through a refreshingly different lens. Instead of rehashing the usual debates over data or narratives, Steve looks at lockdowns, mandates, and vaccine rollout as symptoms of deeper economic distortions: the Federal Reserve’s ability to print trillions with impuni...
A Holiday Toast with Monica Perez 17.12.2025 1:30:27
Monica Perez joined me to raise a glass (or two) with me this holiday season and have a light-hearted conversation. We had some fun but of course we couldn’t resist a few substantive topics. We dig in to the broken health insurance landscape and whether a crowd-sourcing alternative might be the way to go. Monica catches us up on how rebuilding is going in fire-ravaged Altadena, where she lives in...
The Broken State of Medicine with Dr. Allon Friedman 10.12.2025 1:10:08
Dr. Allon Friedman pulls no punches about what he has seen over twenty years in academic medicine. He speaks candidly about the negative impact of DEI ideology on medical education and practice, the erosion of merit-based standards in physician training, and the loss of physician autonomy to massive corporate healthcare systems. He addresses the silence among his colleagues regarding COVID lockdow...
My Conversation with Dr. Joomi Kim 04.12.2025 54:33
I sit down with Dr. Joomi Kim, biologist and author of the excellent Substack “Let’s Be Clear.” If you haven’t discovered her work yet, you’ll want to subscribe. In our conversation, Joomi describes how she became disillusioned with institutional science and what prompted her to bypass the “experts” and do her own research. She never intended to write publicly, but what she discovered so alarmed h...
Pox Romana: What Ancient Rome's First Pandemic Teaches Us About Our Own 25.11.2025 1:10:58
In March 2020, just as we were entering the Covid-19 pandemic, Princeton University Press asked historian Colin Elliott to write a book about the Antonine Plague (165–175 CE), the Roman Empire’s first great pandemic. What followed was quite an interesting experience: researching an ancient disease while watching modern society repeat many of the same reactions in real time. I recently sat down wit...
Beauty, Manners and Motherhood: A Conversation with Faye Root 08.10.2025 57:20
How does one raise children in a world of screens, casual culture, and declining manners? In this refreshing conversation, I sit down with Faye Root, a 38-year-old writer and homeschooling mother of two (soon to be three) living in northern Michigan. We discuss Faye’s decision to homeschool despite having attended public school herself, why she teaches her children to say “please” and “thank you”...
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