Matt Jessop & Al Kingsley
Joining the Dots
”Joining the Dots” focuses on the many challenges facing education in the UK and how different approaches and innovations are required to meet these challenges, which, due to their interconnectedness, are also challenges facing all sorts of educational establishments, educators, parents and families, businesses and the economy as a whole. Episodes will have two co-hosts and feature discussions with educators, business leaders, policymakers, and other stakeholders and guests.
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Matt Jessop & Al Kingsley
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May 22, 2026
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Episodes
Season 2, Episode 11 - Revolutionising Education: Lessons from Harrow to Highgrove with Heather Rhodes 22.05.2026 36:07
Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop discuss with Heather Rhodes insights on online education, its impact on soft skills, and innovative projects in India, emphasising personalised learning, hybrid models, and future educational reforms. key topics Lessons learned from Harrow Online Highgrove's pedagogical model and soft skills focus Impact of online education on student happiness and soft skills Hybrid...
Season 2, Episode 10 - Building the Future of Education with AI and System Innovation, with Narinder Gill. 24.04.2026 36:20
Building the Future of Education with AI and System Innovation In this episode, Narinder Gill joins Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley to discuss the transformative potential of AI in education, systemic challenges, and innovative strategies for fostering collaborative growth. Discover how the Institute of AI Education aims to support educators, students, and communities in navigating the digital future....
Season 2, Episode 9 - Navigating Education's Evolving Landscape: Insights from Andy Kent on Change and Data 18.04.2026 42:26
Navigating Education's Evolving Landscape: Insights from Andy Kent on Change and Data In this episode, Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley delve into the profound shifts in education over the past 27 years, especially accelerated post-COVID, and how data and AI are shaping the future of teaching and school management. Join us for an enlightening discussion with EdTech entrepreneur and all round nice guy,...
Season 2, Episode 8 - Revolutionising Education with AI with guest Caroline Keep. 27.02.2026 38:48
In this conversation, Caroline Keep discusses her work in AI, education, and community engagement with Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop. She emphasises the importance of accessibility and neurodiversity in educational technology. She shares insights from her research on fuzzy logic and the challenges of AI, as well as her role in shaping policies in Liverpool. Caroline also reflects on her experiences...
Season 2, Episode 7 - Empowering Inclusion Through Data with Dr Nic Ponsford 13.02.2026 41:53
In this episode, Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop chat with Dr Nicole Ponsford and discuss the critical role of inclusive data in education, emphasising the need for schools to listen to the voices of all stakeholders. She highlights the disconnect between the data collected and the real experiences of students and staff, advocating for a more nuanced approach to data interpretation. Nic also explores...
Season 2, Episode 6 - Explore the Power of Happiness in Learning with Mathieu and Mark from Evolytes 05.12.2025 34:09
In this conversation, Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley meet Mathieu Skulason and Mark Agerwala from Evolytes and explore the significance of improving student attitudes towards learning and how fostering happiness in learners can lead to better educational outcomes. The speakers emphasise the role of EvoLights in this process. Takeaways Improving student attitudes leads to better learning outcomes. Hap...
Season 2, Episode 5 - Empowering Leaders in Education with Bukky Yusuf 01.11.2025 38:03
In this engaging conversation, Bukky Yusuf discusses with Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley her mission to empower leaders and young people in education, addressing the significant challenges they face today. She emphasises the importance of creating child-centred schools, the need for flexibility in education, and the role of leadership in fostering a positive environment. The discussion also delves in...
Season 2, Episode 4 - The multifaceted role of football in society with Keiran Maguire 23.10.2025 41:02
In this conversation, Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley are joined by Kieran Maguire, Lecturer in football finance at University of Liverpool, author of ‘The Price of Football’ and podcast host of ‘The Price of Football’ with comedian Kevin Day and BBC money presenter Guy Kilty. They discuss the multifaceted role of football in society, particularly its impact on education, community engagement, and fi...
Season 2, Episode 3 - Unlocking Estonia's E-Residency Success, Skills & Education with Liina Vahtras 12.10.2025 26:04
In this conversation, Liina Vahtras, the managing director of Estonia's e-residency program, discusses the evolution and impact of the program on entrepreneurship and the digital economy in Estonia with Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop. She highlights the innovations being implemented to streamline the application process, the unique digital ecosystem of Estonia, and the importance of aligning educatio...
Season 2, Episode 2 - Navigating AI Safely: Protecting Our Children with Tara Steele 05.10.2025 32:50
In this conversation, Al Kingsley , Matt Jessop and Tara Steele discuss the urgent need for safeguards in the use of AI by children. They explore the dangers of AI companions, the role of AI in education, and the importance of regulation and governance. The conversation emphasises the necessity of educating children about AI, the risks of emerging technologies, and the challenges of keeping up wit...
Season 2, Episode 1- Empowering Education: The Role of Character and Mindset with Baasit Siddiqui 28.09.2025 42:42
In this engaging conversation, Baasit Siddiqui discusses with hosts of the "Joining the Dots Podcast" Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley about his extensive experience in education and the importance of character education, mindset, and the seven Cs. He emphasises the need for project-based learning and collaboration between schools and businesses to better prepare students for the future. The discussion...
Episode 18 with Richard O'Neil 18.07.2025 46:54
Joining the Dots Podcast with Richard O’Neill MBE on Storytelling, Skills & Resilience Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop interview Richard O’Neill MBE – Author, master storyteller, founder of Lumberjunkers, visiting professor at Durham, campaigner for men’s health. 🔑 Episode Highlights: Storytelling as the heart of communication: Richard shares how his Romany upbringing shaped his love of oral st...
Episode 17 with Bianca Farthing 05.07.2025 39:39
🎙️ Joining the Dots: Challenging the Rhetoric of AI in Education with Bianca Farthing In this thought-provoking episode of Joining the Dots, Al and Matt are joined by Bianca, founder of AI Edify, history teacher, and digital leader — to explore how education can rise above the hype of AI and technology to truly serve learners. Together, they dive into: ✨ Why education must prioritise ethics, saf...
Episode 16 with Carla Aerts 08.06.2025 46:20
In this thought-provoking episode of Joining the Dots, Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop are joined by global education innovator and learner-centred strategist Carla Aerts. With decades of experience in EdTech, AI, and digital learning, Carla brings a passionate, challenging, and compassionate lens to the big question: what is education really for? 🧠 From soft skills (or rather, “power skills”) to dig...
Episode 15 with Naomi Timperley 30.05.2025 33:06
🎙️ Joining the Dots – Episode: Bridging Business, Education & Innovation with Naomi Timperley Hosts: Al Kingsley & Matt Jessop | Guest: Naomi Timperley In this energising episode, Al and Matt are joined by powerhouse Naomi Timperley—innovation consultant, tech community builder, and passionate advocate for youth and entrepreneurship. Naomi shares her inspiring journey across the UK’s tech...
Episode 14 with Caroline Allams 16.05.2025 47:30
In this lively and thoughtful episode, Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop are joined by educator and co-founder of Natterhub, Caroline Allams. Together, they dive into the evolving challenges and opportunities in education, especially around digital safety, parental engagement, and the impact of technology on both learning and wellbeing. Caroline shares her journey from early years teaching to EdTech ent...
Episode 13 with Hugh Viney 09.05.2025 43:25
In this episode, Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley sit down with Hugh Viney , founder and CEO of Minerva’s Virtual Academy (MVA) — one of the UK’s fastest-growing online schools. From launching with just four students in 2021 to educating over 1,100 full-time learners globally, Hugh shares MVA’s unique hybrid model blending 60% asynchronous and 40% synchronous learning. 💡 Topics include: The founding v...
Episode 12 with Paul Glossop 04.05.2025 22:39
In this episode of Joining the Dots, Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop sit down with Paul Glossop from the University of Derby to explore the growing cracks in our education system, especially around attendance, SEND provision, and the rigidity of traditional pathways. From rising parental disillusionment to the potential of online schools, they tackle big questions about relevance, access, and the futu...
Episode 11 with Professor Mick Waters 19.04.2025 44:04
Rethinking the Purpose of Education In this episode of the Joining the Dots podcast, Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop sit down with the legendary Professor Mick Waters—renowned curriculum expert and co-author of About Our Schools—to ask the big questions shaping education today. 💡 What is the true purpose of schooling in the 21st century? 📉 Are PISA rankings driving the wrong kinds of change? ⚖️ How...
Episode 10 with Dr Nick Jackson 13.04.2025 41:00
In this thought-provoking episode of the "Joining the Dots" podcast, hosts Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley chat with Dr. Nick Jackson , AI expert and co-author of "The Next Words: AI and Teachers." Diving into the dynamic intersection of artificial intelligence and education, Nick challenges us to move beyond the superficial integration of AI, urging educators to fundamentally reconsider the very ess...
Episode 9 with Jonny Clark 28.03.2025 45:36
In this lively episode, hosts Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop sit down with Jonny Clark —angel investor, CEO of the not-for-profit venture firm Capital Enterprise, and a driving force across multiple UK startup scenes. Jonny shares candid views on why London-based companies often scale faster than those in the north, pointing to policy, infrastructure, and cultural attitudes as bigger factors than pur...
Episode 8 With Miles Berry 16.03.2025 41:41
The Future of Tech in Education with Miles Berry In this thought-provoking episode, Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley sit down with Miles Berry , Professor of Computing Education at the University of Roehampton and a leading voice in education, computing, and teacher training. They dive into the evolving role of technology in schools, questioning whether the current teacher training framework is fit for...
Episode 7 with Edmund Barnett-Ward 21.02.2025 35:11
In this episode, Edmund Barnett-Ward joins Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley for an in-depth conversation about the state of Ofsted and school accountability in England. Edmund, known for his advocacy following the tragic death of headteacher Ruth Perry, shares his insights on the flaws in Ofsted's inspection framework, its lack of independent oversight, and the pressures it places on school leaders. Ke...
Episode 6 with Mark Martin 17.02.2025 36:16
In this episode of Join the Dots, hosts Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop are joined by Mark Martin (The U rban Teacher , Assistant Professor of Computer Science & Education Practice) for a thought-provoking discussion on the evolving role of technology, AI, and EdTech in education. The conversation explores how schools can meaningfully integrate AI, the pitfalls of EdTech procurement, and why low-t...
Episode 5 with Dave McPartlin 07.02.2025 36:27
In this inspiring episode, Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley discuss with Dave McPartlin what it really takes to run a school that puts children and community first—often in spite of rigid frameworks and outdated policies. From racing office chairs down school corridors to taking students to New York, Dave shares how his school, Flakefleet Primary, is pushing boundaries to give children life-changing ex...
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