Maureen Wiley Clough
It Gets Late Early
Have you ever looked around at work and realized you might be one of the oldest people in the room—and you’re not even 40 yet? It Gets Late Early is a show about what’s really happening to experienced workers as the rules of work change. We dig into layoffs dressed up as AI strategy, side hustles and portfolio careers, the quiet rise of workplace ageism, and the (sometimes harsh) reality of building a career in midlife and beyond. We connect the dots between corporate decisions, economic forces, and the real lives of people navigating a changing world of work to help make sense of it all…becau...
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Maureen Wiley Clough
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Jun 9, 2026
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We're Working Ourselves to Death (And Calling It Success) 09.06.2026 14:57
A worker collapses on a warehouse floor. The conveyor belts keep moving. No one is allowed to help. The story sounds unbelievable until you realize it's not an isolated incident. I want to tell you a story that starts in an Amazon warehouse but quickly becomes something much bigger. I explore how extreme workplace pressure, productivity obsession, and fear-based leadership have become normalized a...
$600M in Damages. One Worker. A System That Created Both. 26.05.2026 14:30
On April 7th, at 12:30 a.m. in a massive warehouse in Ontario, California, a worker lights pallets on fire. The result? $500–$600 million in damages and a reflection of a much bigger story, one that isn’t just about one individual, but about how our workplaces are failing employees. I walk through this shocking incident to uncover the systemic pressures that drive workplace rage. The truth is, thi...
The US Tracks Your Money Anywhere on Earth. It Just Won't Say How Many Americans Left 10.04.2026 11:44
The American career stability crisis is real, and it’s not a coincidence. We’re seeing a massive shift in how employers view workers, and it’s creating a talent drain that could fundamentally change the future of work. In this episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on a systemic issue that’s been building for years, and it’s more than just AI layoffs. Here’s what’s happening: The U.S. government tr...
The AI Cover-up: How Layoffs Hide the Rise of the Ghost Workforce 24.03.2026 11:49
We’ve seen companies laying off employees under the guise of automation. But here’s the catch: They’re still hiring, just not you–not as an employee anyway. What do I mean by this? Today, I’m diving into something that’s been happening behind the headlines of AI-driven layoffs–the rise of the "ghost workforce." While everyone’s distracted by AI layoffs, corporations are shifting more jobs to contr...
The AI Con: How Tech Giants Are Using Layoffs to Reset the Job Market 11.03.2026 14:12
You may have seen companies like Pinterest and Amazon cutting thousands of jobs in the name of "AI transformation." But here's the catch: these layoffs are a calculated reset, not a technological revolution. It’s all about greed disguised as progress. In this episode, I dive into the AI-driven layoffs that are sweeping across the job market and how these "innovations" are actually part of a much b...
How to Build Something New After 40 (Even When It Feels "Too Late") 16.12.2025 52:36
"It's too late for me." I had this worry, but I finally hit publish on my first podcast episode at 40. I thought I'd missed the boat. Everyone else had already started, and I wondered if I was too old to become a creator in an industry that thinks you expire at 35. I was terrified to try something new in public. But here's what I've learned: that "too late" feeling? It's just plain old straight-up...
Tech Layoffs, Ageism & AI: Is a Tech Career Still Worth It? 26.11.2025 54:39
Tech isn’t just in a downturn. It’s in the midst of a full-blown identity crisis. As layoffs, ageism, and AI reshape the workforce overnight, Brian Pulliam joins me to break down what’s actually happening behind the scenes… and what mid-career professionals must do to stay competitive. Brian, a former tech leader who spent 23 years at companies like Microsoft, Zillow, and Coinbase, joins me to tal...
I Paid $48K for Health Insurance and Still Owed $10K—So I Built a Solution 13.11.2025 1:14:45
With mass layoffs hitting tech, media, and corporate America, more professionals over 40 are being forced into freelance work, consulting, and solopreneur life—whether they planned for it or not. And here's a big problem with that: the moment you leave corporate, you lose access to affordable health insurance. Suddenly, you're staring down $4,000/month premiums, sky-high deductibles, and hospital...
AI Is Teaching Us to Hate Our Own Faces - Former Google Employee Turned Artist Exposes the Truth 28.10.2025 54:16
Ever wondered why AI thinks you need to look younger? In this episode, Gretchen Andrew, a former Google employee turned artist, exposes the disturbing truth about how beauty filters are literally reshaping our faces—and our self-worth. We kick things off with Gretchen's bold pivot from Silicon Valley to the art world, where she's using robots, oil paint, and yes, glitter to reveal what beauty filt...
The Hoodie Myth Is Dead: Why the Best Tech Founders Are Over 40 14.10.2025 14:16
What if everything you thought you knew about startup success was wrong? In today’s episode of It Gets Late Early , I’m breaking down the myth that young, hoodie-wearing entrepreneurs are the key to successful startups. Spoiler: the data proves otherwise. According to MIT research, the average age of a high-growth startup founder is 42 — not 21. The top 1% of founders are even older, typical...
The $259B Problem Hiding in Your Meetings — and How to Solve It 30.09.2025 42:21
Meetings. Ugh. We’ve all been there, right? And the price tag is bigger than most people realize. We estimate that the cost to organizations of these unproductive meetings is approximately $259 billion in the United States and $64 billion in the United Kingdom for professional staff alone ( LSE report ). That’s a jaw-dropping drain on productivity—yet it’s largely preventable. In today’s episode o...
20% Fake Jobs. 31% Never Hear Back. What Are Companies Doing? 16.09.2025 40:29
Ever applied, interviewed, and…silence? You’re not alone. In this episode, we crack open the hiring black box: the rise of ghost jobs (roles that never close or never existed in the first place), the avalanche of AI-boosted applications, and why 31% of rejected candidates never even get an email. My guest Ariana Moon, VP of Talent Planning & Acquisition at Greenhouse, a software platform...
70% of the Money. Zero Attention — or Employees. What Are Brands Thinking? 02.09.2025 48:44
Marketers love chasing Gen Z. But here’s the trillions-of-dollars blind spot: Gen X and Boomers control nearly 70% of U.S. disposable income and outspend younger generations in nearly every major category — alcohol, beauty, travel, finance, and more. So why are brands still ignoring them? In this episode, I sit down with Brent Rivard, founder and CEO of Geezer Creative, an agency built on a radica...
The 10% Rule: Why a Little More Vulnerability Can Change Everything With Will Greenblatt 19.08.2025 50:34
Why is it terrifying to present to just four people? According to Will Greenblatt, it's because our brains still think the tribe might "club us over the head" if they don't like what we say. Will's journey from Canadian child actor (yes, a self-proclaimed "nepo baby") to sought-after corporate speaking coach is anything but typical. After working with Anne Bancroft as a kid and nearly getting swep...
Fired and Diagnosed With Cancer: How Daniel Incandela Rebuilt His Life 05.08.2025 39:34
Losing a job is never easy, but what if it led to a more fulfilling path? Daniel Incandela, former CMO, opens up about the painful yet transformative experience of being fired in his 50s. In this episode, he shares the emotional toll it took, how he navigated the challenges, and the powerful lessons he learned along the way. Today, I sit down with my good friend, Daniel Incandela, who, like many o...
What No One Tells You About Personal Branding at Work With Danielle Hughes 22.07.2025 39:29
Let’s face it, whether you're looking for a new job, trying to stand out in your current role, or considering a career pivot, building a personality brand is a real game-changer (you read that right. A personality brand, not a personal one). In today’s landscape, you need more than just experience; you need a personality that resonates. In this episode, Danielle Hughes, Chief Personality Officer a...
The AI Industry Is Lying to You — And This Founder’s Calling It Out at Age 66 08.07.2025 1:07:52
Is AI living up to the hype, or is it just another overblown bubble that’s gonna pop? In this episode, Stephen Klein, a 66-year-old AI founder who is challenging the status quo in the world of artificial intelligence, joins me to expose what he believes is the truth about AI, from inflated promises to the real potential it holds for augmenting human intelligence. Trust me, this is what you won’t b...
Kelly Stonelake Tried to Protect Kids at Meta. They Fired Her Instead 24.06.2025 1:13:58
Have you ever felt trapped in a system that’s supposed to empower you but instead chips away at your well-being? In today’s episode, I’m sitting down with Kelly Stonelake, a former Meta executive who’s blowing the whistle on what’s happening behind the scenes at one of the world’s most powerful tech giants. From battling toxic corporate culture to confronting racial issues in virtual spaces,...
How to Fix Your Dumpster Fire Interview Process With Lorna Erickson and Victoria Gates 10.06.2025 49:11
Let’s get real: hiring today is a mess. I’ve been there both as a candidate and as the interviewer who wasn’t properly trained. So, when I discovered Lorna Erickson and Victoria Gates, two women who are revolutionizing the corporate interviewing landscape, I knew we had to have them on the show. In this episode, we dive into the shocking state of interviews today - from the mundane but outdated, b...
Are We All Screwed? A Millennial and Gen Xer Weigh In With Bradley Richardson of Advanced Adulting 27.05.2025 1:51:41
I’m not gonna lie–this episode hit deep. Bradley Richardson and I recorded this one for both our audiences, and it turned into the realest talk I’ve had in a while. We peeled back the polish and got straight into the messy middle of work, life, and what we all do to survive this stage of midlife. If you've ever been laid off, cut off by your work “family,” or fed up with the BS around personal bra...
Did You Know You Could Have a 'Second Fifty' Years? Dr. Debra Whitman Explains! 13.05.2025 43:57
What has more to do with longevity: your zip code or your genetic code? The answer might just surprise you. In this episode, I’m thrilled to have Dr. Debra Whitman, Chief Public Policy Officer at AARP and author of “The Second Fifty: Answers to the 7 Big Questions of Midlife and Beyond” join me to discuss the changing narrative of aging. Deb’s journey into this field began at a young a...
Turn Career Setbacks Into Comebacks: Gamifying Job Searches and Nailing Your Career After Age 40 With Portfolio Rocket’s Loren Greiff 29.04.2025 48:16
What happens when the most brutal battle of your life changes how you approach everything? Cancer sucks. It rips apart someone’s life. So, can you believe someone “gamified cancer” to make sure she still got the most out of life during her fight? Yup, that would be my friend, Loren. In this episode, I’m joined by executive career strategist Loren Greiff, the driving force behind...
Colorado’s Game-Changing Job Application Act, the Case for Intergenerational Teams, and How You Can Take Action With Janine Vanderburg 15.04.2025 48:26
We’re done just talking about ageism. In this episode, we show you how to do something about it. Janine Vanderburg is the powerhouse behind Changing the Narrative and CEO of Encore Roadmap. She joins me to talk about how she and a coalition of advocates helped pass the groundbreaking Job Application Fairness Act in Colorado - legislation that bans asking for graduation dates or age identifiers in...
Job Search Struggles in Midlife, Why You Should Take Fractional Roles, and Corporate Survival with Nick Passarelli 01.04.2025 39:47
If you’ve ever been blindsided by a layoff, wrestled with feeling “too old” for the job search, or wondered if your career peak is behind you, this episode is for you. In this deeply honest and refreshingly human episode, I speak with Nick Passarelli, a fintech exec and former HR leader whose early career taught him the hard truth: corporate loyalty doesn’t always pay off. From leading...
Why Awkwardness Is a Career Superpower, Overcoming Social Discomfort, and Building Confidence With Henna Pryor 18.03.2025 42:52
We’ve all had those painfully awkward moments–those cringey, uncomfortable feelings—the ones that make you want to disappear into the floor. But what if awkwardness wasn’t something to escape, but something to embrace? Today, I sit down with workplace performance expert Henna Pryor to unpack why discomfort is actually a good thing. Henna shares her personal journey from feeling like an outsider as...
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