Irregular Warfare Initiative
Irregular Warfare Podcast
The Irregular Warfare Podcast explores an important component of war throughout history. Small wars, drone strikes, special operations forces, counterterrorism, proxies—this podcast covers the full range of topics related to irregular war and features in-depth conversations with guests from the military, academia, and the policy community. The podcast is a collaboration between the Modern War Institute at West Point and Princeton University’s Empirical Studies of Conflict Project.
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Oct 13, 2026
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Episodes
Misguided Citizens: India’s Approach to Counterinsurgency 13.01.2023 51:51
Subscribe to the IWI monthly newsletter by going to www.irregularwarfare.org ! What lessons can be found in India’s experience with counterinsurgency? Are there elements of India’s philosophical approach to counterinsurgency and its tactical innovations that can be applied by the United States in expeditionary counterinsurgency operations? In this episode, we’re joined by Sumit Ganguly, distinguis...
The Arctic Heats Up: Global Competition in the High North 30.12.2022 44:09
Subscribe to the IWI monthly newsletter by going to www.irregularwarfare.org ! What are America’s interests in the Arctic? Are the traditional institutions that have governed interstate relations in the region equipped for an emerging period of intensified competition in the High North? And how is climate change affecting the strategic calculus of the United States, Russia, China, and other states...
Aviation Advising: Access and Influence through Airpower 16.12.2022 53:34
Subscribe to the IWI monthly newsletter by going to www.irregularwarfare.org ! In this episode, we're joined by two guests to discuss how airpower can be a critical aspect of building partner capacity. Retired Brigadier General John Teichert and Colonel Tobias Bernard Switzer guests begin by highlighting past success of air advising and explaining aviation’s role in establishing access and influen...
Transmitting Values: Can US Security Force Assistance Export Democratic Norms? 02.12.2022 50:55
Subscribe to the IWI monthly newsletter by going to www.irregularwarfare.org ! What role does promoting liberal values, such as human rights and democracy, play in security cooperation? How should the inherent tension between promoting liberal values and accomplishing national security objectives be managed when working with partner nations? Should policymakers deliberately seek to tie US values t...
Slow Burn: How US Security Cooperation Shapes Operational Environments 18.11.2022 56:04
Subscribe to the IWI monthly newsletter by going to www.irregularwarfare.org ! This episode explores how America’s security cooperation programs can help shape regional security environments by training foreign militaries. We're joined by two guests whose extensive practical and research experience is extraordinarily relevant to the subject. Retired Lieutenant General Mark Hertling is a national s...
From Street Fights to World Wars: What Gang Violence Can Teach Us about Conflict 04.11.2022 57:44
Subscribe to the IWI monthly newsletter by going to www.irregularwarfare.org ! Is peace the natural order of things for the human race and war an aberration? Our guests on this episode, Dr. Chris Blattman and Mr. Teny Gross, argue that it is. They describe five theoretical mechanisms that cause breakdowns in societies and discuss why different groups end up resorting to violence. They then compare...
The Great Equalizer: Irregular Warfare in the City 21.10.2022 48:06
Subscribe to the IWI monthly newsletter by going to www.irregularwarfare.org ! This episode explores the interplay between urban spaces and irregular warfare. Our guests are John Spencer, chair of urban warfare studies at the Modern War Institute at West Point, and Sergeant Major Charles Ritter, deputy commondant of the Noncommissioned Officer Academy at the US Army's JFK Special Warfare Center an...
After Mali: Learning from the French Experience of Irregular Warfare in the Sahel 07.10.2022 56:22
Subscribe to the IWI monthly newsletter by going to www.irregularwarfare.org ! This episode explores the French experience with irregular warfare in the Sahel region of Africa since 2013 and features two guests. Brigadier General François-Marie Gougeon is a career officer in the French army who served as chief of staff for the UN Multidimensional Integrated Stabilization Mission in Mali from 2019...
Time, Space, and Material: Metrics for Assessing Irregular Warfare 24.09.2022 38:38
This episode explores the conceptual structures that undergird irregular warfare. Dr. Thomas Marks and Chief Warrant Officer Maurice "Duc" DuClos join our hosts, beginning the discussion by addressing the various ways the US government defines irregular warfare. They continue by examining the interplay between nations and nonstate actors—and how sovereign states are increasingly adopting methods t...
Another Forgotten War: America’s Experience in Afghanistan 12.09.2022 59:47
This episode contemplates lessons learned from America’s twenty years of war in Afghanistan. To do so, we're joined by Dr. Carter Malkasian, author of The American War in Afghanistan: A History, and James Cunningham, a senior analyst with SIGAR—the Office of the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction. The discuss whether, in the year following the US withdrawal, the United States...
Insurgents Rarely Win: Adaptation in the Face of Failure 26.08.2022 58:04
This episode explores both the recent history and the future character of insurgency. Our guests are former US Ambassador to Iraq, Turkey, and Albania James Jeffrey and Dr. David Ucko, a professor at the National Defense University and author of the book The Insurgent’s Dilemma: A Struggle to Prevail. They begin by arguing that insurgency will play an important role in great power competition, alt...
The Bin Laden Papers: The Inner Workings of Al-Qaeda’s Leadership 12.08.2022 56:16
This episode dives into the internal workings and communications of al-Qaeda and uses that insight to draw lessons for counterterrorism strategies. From the 2011 raid that killed Osama bin Laden to the recent strike against Ayman al-Zawahiri, targeting key leaders has been a cornerstone of recent counterterrorism strategies, but what do these terrorist leaders have to say about the effectiveness o...
Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: US Intelligence in a Changing World 29.07.2022 58:50
This episode focuses on the US intelligence community and its role in supporting the spectrum of national security missions, from the heavy counterterrorism focus of the post-9/11 era to today's environment of strategic competition. Dr. Amy Zegart, author of the book Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence, and Ms. Susan Gordan, former principal deputy director...
Money Talks: How Nonstate Armed Groups Finance their Operations and Organizations 15.07.2022 48:59
How do terrorist organizations and other nonstate armed groups finance their activities? And just as importantly, how can the United States and its allies counter those streams of money? Those questions are the focus of this episode. Our guests are Dr. Margaret Sankey, research coordinator at Air University's Office of Sponsored Programs, and John Cassara, a twenty-six-year of various federal inte...
Political Warfare and the Road to Invasion: Irregular Warfare in Ukraine since 2014 01.07.2022 24:17
In this episode, the second in our two-part series focused on irregular warfare in Ukraine, we're once again joined by Michael Kofman and Kent DeBenedictis. After hearing them discuss Russia’s conception and employment of irregular warfare in Ukraine in the previous episode, the conversation now turns to the Ukrainian response to Russian attacks, to include how Ukraine has utilized irregular warfa...
From Little Green Men to Tanks Outside Kyiv: Irregular Warfare in Ukraine since 2014 17.06.2022 41:32
In this first episode of our two-part series focused on irregular warfare in Ukraine, we're joined by Michael Kofman, the research program director in the Russia Studies Program at the Center for Naval Analyses, and Kent DeBenedictis, a US Army officer and author of the book Russian ‘Hybrid Warfare’ and the annexation of Crimea: The Modern Application of Soviet Political Warfare. They begin by exp...
Plan Colombia: Anatomy of a Successful Counterinsurgency Campaign 03.06.2022 51:29
Plan Colombia has been described as a model of successful counterinsurgency and foreign internal defense at a time when large footprints in Iraq and Afghanistan have had mixed results. In this episode, we're joined by two guests. Alberto José Mejía Ferrero served as the general commander of the Military Forces of Colombia and has worked closely with American forces throughout his career. Dr. David...
Digital Irregular Warfare: Cyber at the Tactical Level 20.05.2022 43:44
This episode explores how cyber tools and weapons are used at the tactical level within irregular warfare. Our guests, Dr. Trey Herr and Major Sally White, highlight some of the limitations of executing tactical cyber operations. They also provide insights into how information operations and cyber tools can be integrated together in the irregular warfare space for better utility and to influence t...
Little Blue Men in the South China Sea: Unmasking China’s Maritime Militia 06.05.2022 48:41
Since completing its terraforming and island reclamation projects in the Spratly Islands in 2016, the People’s Republic of China has shifted its emphasis to asserting dominance over the South China Sea. A key component of this pivot has been the expansion of China’s maritime militia—a force of vessels ostensibly engaged in commercial activity, but which in fact conducts operations in concert with...
Digital Terrorists: Policy and Practice in the Online Counterterrorism Fight 22.04.2022 44:56
In this episode, we consider how extremists of all types have exploited maneuver space online, and what this means for efforts to counter violent extremism today. To do so, we're joined by Nick Rasmussen, executive director of the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism, and Dr. Daniel Byman, professor at Georgetown University’s Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service whose most recent book i...
Dynamite to Drones: The Diffusion of Lethal Technology to Terrorists and Insurgents 08.04.2022 48:29
From dynamite in the early twentieth century to drones, bioweapons, and private-sector satellite constellations today, lethal technologies are increasingly available to nonstate actors and individuals. At a time when states are focused on competition and potential conflict between great powers, the decentralization of today’s low-end technologies could equip nonstate actors, private companies, and...
COIN and Culture: How Important is Cultural Intelligence in Counterinsurgency? 25.03.2022 47:19
It has become axiomatic that cultural intelligence is key to success in counterinsurgency operations. But is it? This episode examines this assumption, exploring whether the cultural training we receive in the military is indeed the linchpin to success—or a red herring, even a harmful distractor, in the absence of coherent strategy. Why does cultural awareness tend to be absent at the strategic le...
The Motivations and Methods Behind Russian Hybrid Warfare 11.03.2022 49:07
How do significant historical events and Russian cultural memory—especially those surrounding the collapse of the Soviet Union—shape the Russian worldview? How do they motiviate Russia President Vladimir Putin? And what impact does that have on the way Russia employs hybrid warfare? In this episode, Shashank Joshi and Dr. Rob Person join to discuss these questions and more, including potential Wes...
Russia, China, and Iran: The Face of Competition in the Middle East 25.02.2022 59:00
Russia, China, and Iran have all been learning how to conduct irregular warfare from the United States, modeling their approaches to IW on observations of recent US interventions in the world. This episode examines strategic competition with these three states—specifically how it plays out in the Middle East. Our guests, Dr. Seth Jones and Rear Admiral Mitch Bradley, discuss how all three of these...
The Kill Chain: Why America Faces the Prospect of Defeat 12.02.2022 50:42
A fundamental change in warfare is occurring, one that risks rendering the American way of war obsolete. As China uses technology to enhance the primacy of its kill chain, the United States has pursued a method of war that is platform-centric—and could prove dangerously outdated. Our guests on this episode, General David Berger and Christian Brose, discuss the radically different approach to war...
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