Pamela Jones

Interrupt the Narrative

Education EN ↓ 5 episodes

Hosted by a Pan-African Black Feminist educator (Pam Jones), Interrupt the Narrative tackles the interlocking oppressions (including racial capitalism, ableism, and heterosexism) that conspire to create inequitable educational experiences for children and youth who have been the most marginalized, historically. Pam connects with educators, activists, and organizers to hear first-hand stories from those who understand that we can’t reform this educational system: we have to abolish it and start anew. Join the conversation and be a part of the transformation.

Author

Pamela Jones

Category

Education

Podcast website

www.buzzsprout.com

Latest episode

Apr 6, 2026

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Episodes

“Joy Comes in the Morning: Exploring the Narrative of Racial Battle Fatigue for Black Women in Academia.” 06.04.2026

In this episode, I interview a brilliant educator, Dr. Bisola Neil. Dr. Neil's insights offer illumination for Black women in higher education as they navigate the choppy (and often treacherous) waters of academia. Bisola helps us see the possibilities for joy amidst situations and systems that often cause us pain. As Bisola reminds us, "Joy comes in the morning..."  Check out more...

“Everyday Teacher Interruption: Heather’s Story” 01.12.2022

Episode Description : In episode 3 of Interrupt the Narrative, Pam interviews Heather Mohamed—an elementary educator—about her journey as an aspiring anti-racist educator. Heather paints a picture of what it looks like to interrupt oppression daily in the classroom. With vulnerability, honesty, and wisdom beyond her years, Heather demonstrates the challenges and triumphs anti-racist teachers face...

“Uh Huh, But How Do It Free Us?” One Poet’s Story on the Power of the Arts and Social Justice (Part 2, Act 3: The Facilitation) 11.08.2022

In this episode, part two of the interview with Ama, she offers a deep dive into her facilitation of anti-oppression workshops. Ama paints a vibrant picture of what relational, integrity-rooted, and liberatory-framed social justice work can look like. She provides examples of games and role-plays that take place in her facilitation.  Guest’s Bio: Ama Codjoe is the former director of the Dreamyard...

“Uh huh, But How Do it Free Us?” Interrupting the JEDI with One Poet’s Story on the Power of the Arts and Social Justice” (Part One) 29.07.2022

In the inaugural episode of Interrupt the Narrative, Pam interviews Ama Codjoe (a poet, educator, and social justice facilitator) about her experience working with organizations seeking to become anti-racist. Ama’s experience helps us begin to interrupt the narrative that short-term, DEI trainings can mitigate micro- and macro-aggressions. Ama’s bio Ama Codjoe is the former director of the Dreamya...

Trailer: “Uh huh, But How Do it Free Us?” Interrupting the JEDI with One Poet’s Story on the Power of the Arts and Social Justice 03.05.2022

Hosted by a Pan-African Black Feminist educator (Pam Jones), Interrupt the Narrative tackles the interlocking oppressions (including racial capitalism, ableism, and heterosexism) that conspire to create inequitable educational experiences for children and youth who have been the most marginalized, historically. Pam connects with educators, activists, and organizers to hear first-hand stories from...

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