Intangible Podcast

Marc Trachtenberg is the founder, chairman, president and CEO of Silk Title Co, leading organizations of over 1,000 employees across real estate and financial services. On this episode of Intangible he sits down to talk about the intangibles that actually built his career, and none of it is the version people assume when they see the success from the outside. Marc opens up about going bankrupt in...

Annie Bailey is a former Division I lacrosse player at the University of Colorado, a boarding school graduate from Culver Academies, and now a CEO and Equity Partner at Rise Sports Advisory — a firm built to help elite athletes build generational wealth, not just a paycheck. In this episode, Annie breaks down exactly why 75 percent of NFL players end up broke or divorced within five years of retir...

Six years grinding overseas. Multiple country jumps. Undrafted in 2006. Chris Copeland could have walked away from basketball more times than he can count, but instead he became Belgian league MVP, signed with the New York Knicks in 2012, and earned the nickname The X-Factor over 171 plus NBA games with the Knicks, Pacers, and Bucks. In this episode of Intangible Podcast, Chris sits down with form...

What does it actually take to build generational wealth as a professional athlete? In this episode of the Intangible Podcast, Chris Spencer sits down with Michael Ledo, CEO and founder of Rise Family Office, for the unfiltered conversation most athletes never get to have until it is already too late. Michael is the nephew of Eugene Parker, the first major Black sports agent in America. He is a two...

Most athletes say they're coachable. Beno Udrih has a question that will change the way you see yourself. In this episode of the Intangible Podcast, two-time NBA champion, 13-year NBA veteran, and current G League head coach Beno Udrih sits down with host Chris Spencer to unpack the intangibles that took him from a small village in Slovenia all the way to back-to-back championships with the S...

Shan Foster is the all-time leading scorer in Vanderbilt history. His number is retired. He was named SEC Player of the Year, drafted by the Dallas Mavericks, and played professional basketball across four continents. But the story that made all of that possible starts long before any of that — in New Orleans, in an abusive household, learning how to survive by wearing different masks every single...

In this episode of the Intangible Podcast, Chris Spencer sits down with Janee’ Kassanavoid, one of the most powerful and inspiring throwers in the world. Janee’ shares the mindset, discipline, and inner strength it takes to compete on the global stage, while also carrying the pride of her Comanche heritage into everything she does. From chasing big goals to handling pressure, overcoming setbacks,...

Former Oregon Ducks wide receiver and Atlanta Falcons player Drew Davis joins Chris Spencer on the Intangible Podcast for a powerful conversation about football, identity, leadership, and life after the game. Drew’s journey took him from Denver to the University of Oregon, where he was part of one of the most exciting eras in Ducks football, to the NFL with the Atlanta Falcons. But this episode go...

On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, we sit with Emmanuel Adebi, Vanderbilt tight end and former Cornell standout, to talk about the mindset, faith, and discipline it takes to keep chasing greatness when the road does not look like everyone else’s. Emmanuel’s journey is bigger than football. From competing in the Ivy League at Cornell to earning his opportunity at Vanderbilt in the SEC, his...

On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, former NFL center Chris Spencer sits down with former Ole Miss defensive back and NFL safety CJ Moore for a powerful conversation about grit, resilience, faith, and the mindset it takes to keep going when the path doesn’t go as planned. CJ shares what it was like growing up in a small Mississippi town with no stoplights, working on the farm, competing wit...

What does it really take to reach the highest level… and stay there? On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, Chris Spencer sits down with WNBA veteran Marissa Coleman and professional fighter Camee Adams for one of the most real conversations we’ve had about mindset, adversity, and identity. These two athletes come from completely different paths. Marissa knew early she was destined for the WNB...

What does it really take to go from the end of the bench… to the Pro Bowl… to walking away from millions to follow your purpose? On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, former NFL Pro Bowl tight end turned psychologist, Dr. Julius Thomas sits down with Chris Spencer to break down the intangibles that separate average athletes from elite performers. Julius shares his unbelievable journey—from st...

What does it really take to rebuild your life after losing everything? On this episode of the Intangible Podcast , we sit down with David Meltzer—former CEO of Leigh Steinberg Sports & Entertainment, entrepreneur, investor, and one of the most impactful voices in business and sports today. David opens up about going from the top of the sports world to losing over $100 million… and the mindset...

What does it really take to go from the projects to becoming a Super Bowl Champion? On this episode of the Intangible Podcast , we sit down with NFL wide receiver and Super Bowl champion Richie James to break down the mindset, discipline, and unseen traits that helped him beat the odds and stay in the league. From growing up in Sarasota with limited structure to becoming a standout at Middle Tenne...

What happens when you walk away from the NFL at your peak? In this episode of the Intangible Podcast, we sit down with former Miami Dolphins linebacker Jelani Jenkins—team captain at the University of Florida, NFL starter, and a player who made the rare decision to retire at just 26 years old. But this conversation goes way deeper than football. Jelani opens up about the mindset his father instill...

What does it take to thrive in the most pressure-packed position in football? On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, former Alabama placekicker Gunnar Raborn joins Chris Spencer to break down the mindset required to succeed when the entire game comes down to one kick. Growing up in Louisiana as a multi-sport athlete, Gunnar didn’t even start kicking until his junior year of high school. But th...

On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, Chris Spencer sits down with Vanderbilt basketball standout Ndjakalenga Mwenentanda to unpack the mindset, resilience, and intangibles behind her journey from Sioux Falls to the SEC. Ndjakalenga’s story is one every athlete should hear. From growing up in a sports-driven family with roots in the Democratic Republic of Congo, to becoming South Dakota Playe...

On this episode of the Intangible Podcast , Chris Spencer sits down with former MLB outfielder Tyson Gillies — a man whose story goes far beyond the stat sheet. Drafted by the Seattle Mariners and later traded to the Philadelphia Phillies, Tyson also represented Team Canada on the world stage. But what makes his journey truly powerful isn’t just professional baseball — it’s perseverance. Tyson gre...

Josh Cuthbert isn’t just a strength coach. He’s a culture builder. A mindset architect. A guy trusted by elite NFL athletes like George Kittle to build not just muscle — but longevity. Josh breaks down what truly separates the grinders from the gifted. Why the offseason matters more than Sundays. Why “compound interest” applies to your workouts. And why too many athletes are pampered before they’v...

What does it really take to go from a 7-year-old kid racing boys in Michigan to standing on the Olympic stage with a medal around your neck? On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, we sit down with Olympic bronze medalist Taylor Manson to uncover the mindset, discipline, and faith that carried her from Lansing, Michigan to the world stage. Taylor is an 11-time All-American at the University of...

As the Winter Olympics capture the world’s attention, few sports demand more courage, composure, and trust than luge—and few athletes embody those intangibles like Emily Fischnaller. In this episode of the Intangible Podcast, we sit down with one of the most accomplished and resilient athletes in winter sports. Emily’s journey spans Junior World Championships, World Cup titles, multiple Olympic Ga...

On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, we sit down with Jordan Ta'amu for a real conversation about what it takes to survive — and lead — when the path isn’t linear. Jordan’s journey from Ole Miss to the NFL and spring football is a masterclass in betting on yourself. He opens up about staying ready when opportunities aren’t guaranteed, developing confidence without constant validation, a...

In this episode of the Intangible Podcast, we sit with Jaelen Strong, former NFL wide receiver, Arizona State standout, and now a state-championship winning high school coach. Growing up in Philadelphia, Jaelen didn’t take the traditional path to the NFL. He bet on himself through junior college, grinded his way to Arizona State, became a 3rd-round NFL Draft pick, and lived the reality of playing...

On this episode of the Intangible Podcast, former NFL cornerback Daryl Worley sits down with us for one of the most real, honest conversations we’ve had on the show. From growing up in North Philadelphia to becoming a third-round draft pick out of West Virginia Mountaineers, Daryl breaks down the mindset, discipline, and adaptability required to last nearly a decade in the NFL. He opens up about n...

Former MLB pitcher Josh Lindblom joins the Intangible Podcast for one of our most honest and powerful conversations yet. From being a 2nd-round draft pick of the Los Angeles Dodgers, grinding through the minor leagues, bouncing between teams, and eventually reinventing himself overseas as a KBO MVP, Josh takes us inside the real journey of a professional athlete. This episode is all about the inta...