IndoctriNation
IndoctriNation
Welcome to IndoctriNation: A weekly podcast covering cults, manipulators, and protecting yourself from systems of control.
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Episodes
BONUS PREVIEW: The Courage to Stand Alone 10.07.2026 4:10
This is just a preview of our Patreon-exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein discusses how difficult it can be to be the lone dissenting voice when others admire a narcissistic partner or cult leader. She describes serving on a jury involving an unhoused African Am...
Holy Disobedience: Inside the Seventh-day Adventist Church with Melissa Duge Spiers 08.07.2026 1:19:25
In this episode, Rachel Bernstein speaks with Melissa Duge Spiers, who talks about growing up inside the Seventh-day Adventist Church — and the hidden cost of its end-times, high-control culture. Her book, ‘ Holy Disobedience: Sex, Sin, and Secrets in the Biggest Church No One Knows ,’ traces Adventism's roots back to the 1840s Millerite movement and the visions of prophet Ellen White, whose e...
Recovering from Religious Trauma with Andrew Jasko 01.07.2026 1:13:40
In this episode of IndoctriNation, Rachel Bernstein, LMFT, MSEd, welcomes back Andrew Jasko, psychotherapist and comparative religion scholar, for a deep and honest conversation about growing up inside evangelical and Pentecostal Christianity — and the long road to recovery from religious trauma. Andrew grew up as a minister's son, immersed in a world of intense devotion, purity culture, missi...
BONUS PREVIEW: A Model Cult Exposed 26.06.2026 6:16
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein reflects on cult survivor and former supermodel Hoyt Richards and provides background on the high-control group at the center of HBO's ' Bring Me The Beauties: A Model Cult .'...
Justice After Coercive Control with Carol Merchasin 24.06.2026 1:26:56
Carol Merchasin returns, and this time, Rachel and Carol go deep on what it actually looks like when survivors of coercive control, spiritual abuse, and high-control groups consider taking legal action. Carol shares how her career shifted from corporate employment investigations to building a litigation practice focused on religious misconduct and cultic settings, and what landmark cases reveal ab...
Reality in Ruins: How Conspiracy Theory Became an Evangelical Crisis with Jared Stacy, PhD 17.06.2026 1:10:12
In this episode, Rachel Bernstein, LMFT, MSEd, sits down with Jared Stacy, PhD, who is a theologian and ethicist. He is the author of " Reality in Ruins: How Conspiracy Theory Became an Evangelical Crisis ." They sit down for a deeply personal and clinically resonant conversation about radicalization, religious trauma, coercive belonging, and the courage it takes to say "I don't kn...
BONUS PREVIEW: Victim Blaming: Challenging the Myths 12.06.2026 4:13
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon bonus episode, host Rachel Bernstein, LMFT, examines how victim blaming functions across abusive relationships, sexual violence, cults, and high-control religious environments — and why it remains one of the most pervasi...
The Culting of America with Daniella Mestyanek Young 10.06.2026 1:13:12
In this episode, Daniella Mestyanek Young returns to IndoctriNation to discuss how cults exploit group dynamics. Born three generations into the Children of God, then a U.S. Army intelligence officer, Daniella has spent her career studying coercive control from the inside out. In her new book The Culting of America , she lays out a 10-part model of cult tactics — the same playbook used in religiou...
Reclaiming Myself After Mormonism with Lindsey Sanders 03.06.2026 1:20:40
In this episode, Rachel Bernstein sits down with Lindsey Sanders to talk about her memoir, The Sacred Song of a Heretic , and what it means to reclaim "sacredness" outside of a high-control religion. Lindsey was raised in a multigenerational Mormon family, where she was taught to value obedience, certainty, traditional gender roles, a limited range of acceptable emotions, and avoidance of...
BONUS PREVIEW: Inside the Cult of Two 29.05.2026 6:44
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon bonus episode, host Rachel Bernstein unpacks the idea of "cults of two" — one-on-one relationships that can carry the same coercive control, manipulation, and reality-distortion found in larger high-control group...
I Belong to Me with Tia Levings 27.05.2026 1:24:01
In this episode, host Rachel Bernstein welcomes back author Tia Levings to discuss her new book, ' I Belong to Me: A Survivor’s Guide to Recovery and Hope After Religious Trauma.' Tia opens up about surviving church-sanctioned domestic abuse and the long, deliberately paced process of rebuilding selfhood after leaving Christian patriarchy. She and Rachel explore how reclaiming body awarene...
American Trickster: The Hidden Lives of Carlos Castaneda with Ru Marshall 20.05.2026 1:20:37
In this episode, Rachel Bernstein interviews Ru Marshall about the hidden world surrounding the guru Carlos Castaneda. Marshall shares insights from their research into Castaneda’s history, manipulation tactics, spiritual abuse, and the disturbing aftermath surrounding his inner circle after his death. The conversation explores charismatic narcissism, cult control, and how high-control spiritual l...
BONUS PREVIEW: Identity After Indoctrination: Rebuilding Yourself After Control 15.05.2026 5:56
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein explores how survivors of narcissistic families, manipulative relationships, and cultic systems can rebuild their identity after years of control, conformity, and emotional conditioning. M...
Mind Games: Investigating NLP with Alice Hines 13.05.2026 52:11
In this episode, Rachel Bernstein welcomes investigative journalist Alice Hines to discuss neurolinguistic programming (NLP), its origins, and the fine line between empowerment and manipulation. Known for her reporting on Twin Flames Universe and co-hosting Mind Games, Alice explores how NLP techniques have influenced therapy, sales culture, pickup artists, and groups like NXIVM. Rachel and Alice...
Living Authentically: Escaping Aesthetic Realism pt. 2 with Donna Lamb 06.05.2026 1:23:24
In part 2, Rachel Bernstein continues her conversation with Donna Lamb, a survivor of the Aesthetic Realism group. Recruited at 20 in New York City, Donna spent 32 years in the group before leaving in her fifties. She explains how founder Eli Siegel and his successor maintained control through “contempt,” enforced self-criticism, surveillance, and manipulation, including “Respect meetings.” Donna...
BONUS PREVIEW: How Cults Recruit and Control 01.05.2026 5:48
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein explores “missionary tactics”—recruitment strategies used by high-control groups, including religious, political, wellness, MLM, and online communities. Through the story of “Alex,” the ep...
PREVIEW: Your Questions Answered: Exclusive Patreon Q&A 30.04.2026 1:41
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Q&A video. You can access the full content by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination You asked. I answered, and these questions were remarkable. Every time I read through what this community sends in, I'm genuinely moved by how thoughtfully you're engaging with these topics. This month's Q&A covers some...
Living Authentically: Escaping Aesthetic Realism pt. 1 with Donna Lamb 29.04.2026 1:23:42
In Part 1, IndoctriNation host Rachel Bernstein speaks with Donna Lamb, a cult survivor and writer, about her 32 years inside Aesthetic Realism—a controversial group founded by Eli Siegel and still operating in New York City. Recruited at age 21 through an acting class, Donna shares how love bombing, intellectualized teachings, and strict control shaped her life inside the group. She reveals the p...
My Husband, The Rabbit Hole, and Me with Louise Williamson 22.04.2026 1:17:19
In this episode, Rachel Bernstein speaks with Louise Williamson about the impact of conspiracy thinking on partners and families. Louise describes noticing her ex-husband’s shift in 2011, with conspiratorial topics becoming obvious by 2014 and escalating into extreme beliefs, worsening further during COVID, as he published anti-vax material and made accusations against her. She recounts social fal...
BONUS PREVIEW: Spotting Subtle Manipulation 17.04.2026 5:55
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein explains how survivors of past coercion can miss quieter, covert manipulation that looks like kindness, concern, or normal persuasion. Rachel contrasts extreme manipulation (overt coercion...
UNLOCKED BONUS: Synanon’s Dark History 15.04.2026 23:55
You can hear more episodes by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this unlocked Patreon episode, Rachel Bernstein gives an updated intro focusing on Synanon and includes recent news on renewed scrutiny of César Chávez and the United Farm Workers for allegedly adopting Synanon-style practices at the La Paz compound. She covers the UFW’s founding aims and describes...
The Seven Mountains Mandate with Matthew Boedy 08.04.2026 1:23:22
In this episode, Rachel Bernstein speaks with Matthew Boedy, who is a professor of rhetoric at the University of North Georgia. He researches and writes about religious rhetoric, particularly in the last few years about the rise of Christian Nationalism. In the interview, Boedy explains rhetoric as framing reality through living language, and describes religious rhetoric as examining powerful “div...
BONUS PREVIEW: Messages of Manipulation: Unpacking Internalized Beliefs 03.04.2026 5:58
This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus Episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination In this Patreon bonus episode, Rachel Bernstein explains how people who leave controlling, groups, or manipulative relationships often carry repeated phrases in their minds that become internalized beliefs. Drawing on survivor reports,...
Gaslighting for God with Becky Garrison 01.04.2026 1:18:04
In this episode, Rachel Bernstein interviews Becky Garrison, author of "Gaslighting for God," about spiritual narcissism, charismatic leaders, and how abuse is hidden behind a persona with little accountability. Garrison describes her background in religious satire, family alcoholism, and how research into trauma and somatic therapies helped her recognize narcissistic patterns without beco...
The Rise and Fall of an American Cult with Harrison Hill 25.03.2026 1:10:21
In this episode, Rachel Bernstein interviews journalist Harrison Hill about his debut book, “The Oracle’s Daughter: The Rise and Fall of an American Cult.” Hill shares how he connected to survivor Sarah Green through his brother in Brooklyn and how the book centers on Sarah’s escape from the Aggressive Christianity Missions Training Corps, a religious cult founded in California. He situates the cu...
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