with Eric Larsen

Incumbents and Insurgents in Healthcare

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Incumbents and Insurgents, sponsored by TowerBrook Capital Partners, is a candid series about the collision - and collaboration - between healthcare and technology. Hosted by Eric Larsen, President of the TowerBrook Healthcare Institute, the show explores how incumbent healthcare organizations are adopting AI, how tech insurgents are challenging entrenched models, and what it will take to improve outcomes while bending the cost curve.

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Warner Thomas and Munjal Shah 07.07.2026 1:26:15

In this episode of Incumbents and Insurgents, Eric Larsen hosts Warner Thomas (President and CEO, Sutter Health) and Munjal Shah (Co-Founder and CEO, Hippocratic AI) for a conversation on what it takes to move clinical AI from invention to installation. As an Incumbent and an Insurgent building on the same patient-facing terrain, they make the case that healthcare has been designed around clinical...

Tom Mihaljevic and Elad Walach 15.04.2026 1:10:46

In this episode of Incumbents and Insurgents, Eric Larsen hosts Tom Mihaljevic, M.D. (CEO and President, Cleveland Clinic) and Elad Walach (Co-Founder and CEO, Aidoc) for the series' first in-person pairing of an Incumbent and an Insurgent. They explore why AI applied to poorly structured health systems fails without standardization and manufacturing discipline; how 370,000 annual deaths from diag...

Dario Amodei 06.01.2026 53:37

In this episode of Incumbents and Insurgents, Eric Larsen speaks with Dario Amodei, Co-Founder and CEO of Anthropic, about what happens when rapidly improving AI systems meet a healthcare sector built for stability and caution. They discuss the pace of model progress, why healthcare’s labor intensity and administrative burden make it especially exposed, and where AI is already acting as a clinical...

Vinod Khosla 18.12.2025 1:13:07

In this episode of Incumbents and Insurgents, Eric Larsen sits down with Vinod Khosla - Founder of Khosla Ventures and one of the most prescient technologists of the past 50 years - for a wide-ranging conversation on how artificial intelligence will fundamentally rewire healthcare. They explore why healthcare has resisted disruption while other industries have not; how AI can reduce overhead while...

Eugene Woods and Bret Taylor 07.08.2025 1:00:26

In this episode of Incumbents and Insurgents, Eric Larsen hosts Bret Taylor (Co-Founder of Sierra, Chairman of OpenAI) and Eugene A. Woods (CEO of Advocate Health) for a conversation on how AI is driving transformation in healthcare. Topics include how health systems are deploying GenAI to reduce administrative overhead and prevent patient harm; how incumbents and insurgents can partner without ta...

Introducing Incumbents and Insurgents 07.08.2025 15:21

Ian Sacks, Managing Partner of TowerBrook Capital Partners, and Eric Larsen, President of TowerBrook Advisors, introduce Incumbents and Insurgents.