In This Moment - The Podcast
In This Moment - A New Perspective on DEI
In This Moment brings hosts Janet M. Stovall, CDE and Khalil Smith together with diversity, equity and inclusion professionals from around the world to broker candid, incisive conversations about the future of equity in an unsettled world.
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Dec 16, 2025
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Episodes
Building Skyscrapers in Earthquake Zones: Season 2 Wrap-Up 16.12.2025 36:23
Overview: In this Season 2 finale, Janet and Khalil explore what it takes to build lasting change when the ground keeps shifting. They connect the dots from eleven episodes, examining how organizations can move from reaction to redesign, from symbolism to systems. Through frameworks on clarity, strategic elimination, and collective action, they offer a roadmap for resilient leadership. The conver...
Global Workplace Excellence: Navigating Divergent Paths with Data 09.12.2025 53:46
Overview: The conversation explores the evolving landscape of data collection in organizations, emphasizing the shift towards self-identification and the importance of anonymity in employee surveys. It highlights the need for real-time data collection methods that foster trust and engagement among employees. The discussion also delves into the erosion of trust in organizations, the significance o...
Inclusion by Design: Building Sustainable Workplace Cultures 02.12.2025 53:06
Overview: In this insightful episode, LaQuenta Jacobs, a workplace culture and inclusion strategist, delves into the critical gap between what companies claim about inclusion and their actual practices. She emphasizes the importance of embedding inclusion into core organizational systems rather than treating it as a separate program. Jacobs highlights the consequences of cultural misalignment, su...
Strategic repositioning: From social justice to business performance 25.11.2025 56:31
Overview:In this conversation, Andrés Tapia discusses the evolving landscape of diversity and inclusion (D&I) within organizations, emphasizing the shift from a social justice framework to a business imperative. He highlights the challenges and opportunities that arise from current crises, urging leaders and individuals to adapt and find new ways to engage with D&I efforts. Tapia stresses...
Proving human value: Data strategies for the AI economy 18.11.2025 44:33
Overview:In this conversation, Zach Nunn discusses the implications of AI on the future of work, emphasizing the unsustainable nature of replacing human jobs with technology. He highlights the fear surrounding job loss due to AI, the reality of AI implementation failures, and the importance of change management in organizations. The discussion also touches on the need for diversity in tech, the et...
Mid-Season Check-In: From Reaction to Redesign 11.11.2025 43:43
Overview In this episode, Janet and Khalil reflect on the first half of their season, discussing insights from various guests about workplace dynamics, the importance of seeing reality as it is, and the need for collaboration over capitulation. They emphasize the significance of understanding power dynamics within organizations and the necessity of building robust systems that promote diversity, e...
S2 E6: Every company is a tech company now. Where are the women? 04.11.2025 58:54
This conversation explores the challenges and opportunities for women in technology, particularly in the context of AI and workforce dynamics. It discusses the alarming rates at which women are leaving the workforce, the implications of generational shifts, and the importance of diversity in tech. The speakers emphasize the need for self-awareness, building networks, and recognizing glass cliff op...
Public Policy & Workplace Excellence: Preparing for Government Pressures 28.10.2025 25:55
Overview In this conversation, Tom Moore discusses the anticipated pressure tactics organizations may face from the federal government over the next 24 months. He highlights the dynamics between federal and state responses, the vulnerability of various industries, and the importance of collective resistance against capitulation. The discussion also touches on the legal challenges organizations may...
Courageous Conversations: Navigating Workplace Communication in Polarized Times 21.10.2025 58:37
Overview This conversation explores the challenges and strategies for having difficult conversations in politically polarized workplaces. The speakers discuss the importance of courageous communication, understanding incivility and microaggressions, and the role of belonging in organizations. They emphasize the need for frameworks to facilitate courageous conversations and the impact of generation...
S2 E3: We Want You - Turning Powerful People Into Powerful Allies 14.10.2025 45:23
Overview This conversation delves into the complexities of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) efforts in the workplace, highlighting the backlash faced by those in power and the importance of engaging them in the conversation. The speakers discuss the fear surrounding DEI initiatives, the necessity of inclusion for business success, and the role of allies in fostering a supportive environment....
S2E2: Strategic Foresight - Planning for Workplace Excellence's Next 24 Months with Valeria Lassiter 07.10.2025 57:42
Overview In this episode, Khalil and Janet engage with leadership expert Valeria Lasseter to explore the evolving challenges leaders face in uncertain times. They discuss the importance of adaptive capacity, the power framework, and the necessity of perspective taking in leadership. Valeria emphasizes the need for leaders to own their development, revisit organizational values, and create conditio...
S2 E1: What's Next? What's Now? Mapping the Future of Workplace Excellence 30.09.2025 25:07
Overview Join hosts Khalil and Janet for the season two premiere of 'In This Moment.' In this episode, they unveil the new season's theme: What's next? What's now?, focusing on proactive and strategic thinking for the future of work. Get ready for a season of insightful conversations with visionary leaders and change agents, all centered on the core belief that an organizatio...
Episode Six: Diversity is Destiny 05.03.2025 37:45
In this conversation, Khalil Smith and Janet M. Stovall reflect on their experiences and insights regarding diversity, equity, and inclusion in the workplace. They discuss the challenges of maintaining personal well-being while engaging in this important work, the role of businesses in driving social change, and the necessity of understanding value in the workplace. The conversation also touches o...
Episode Five: Speaking the Unspoken with Dr. Ella Washington 18.02.2025 41:05
In this episode of 'In This Moment', Janet Stovall speaks with Dr. Ella Washington, an organizational psychologist and author, about the complexities of inclusion in the workplace. They discuss the unspoken rules that often govern corporate culture, the dual nature of inclusion as both an action and a feeling, and the importance of authenticity in navigating less inclusive environments. Dr. Washin...
Episode Four: Exploring Identity Months 05.02.2025 38:30
In this episode, Khalil and Janet discuss the significance of identity months, particularly Black History Month, and how organizations can approach these celebrations authentically and meaningfully. They introduce the concept of 'Black Hindsight Month' to emphasize the importance of connecting historical contributions to present and future actions. The conversation highlights the need for...
Episode Three: The Burnout is Real 29.01.2025 43:01
In this episode, Khalil and Janet discuss the pressing issue of burnout in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) work, particularly in light of recent political changes affecting DEI initiatives. They explore the different groups experiencing DEI fatigue, the importance of diverse narratives, and strategies for managing burnout. The conversation emphasizes the need for a data-driven approach to D...
Episode Two: How to Speak Diversity, Equity and Inclusion 22.01.2025 36:27
In this episode, Janet and Khalil explore the significance of language in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) discussions. They critique the term 'belonging' and propose 'inclusillience' as a more actionable concept. The conversation emphasizes the need for clear definitions and measurable actions in DEI initiatives, arguing that inclusion should be prioritized over belonging. They also discuss...
Episode One: DEI Under Fire - Retreat or Resist? 15.01.2025 40:58
In this episode of the In This Moment podcast, hosts Khalil and Janet discuss the current state of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives in major corporations, particularly in light of recent backtracking by companies like Meta and Amazon. They explore the different types of companies in the DEI journey, the challenges of sustaining DEI efforts, and the importance of integrating DEI i...
In This Moment: The Introduction 06.01.2025 21:41
Summary In this episode, Janet and Khalil explore the current challenges and opportunities in the DEI landscape. They discuss the prevailing mood of threat and uncertainty, the role of workplaces in fostering diversity and inclusion, and the concept of regression to the mean in the context of equity. The conversation emphasizes the need for sustainable change and the importance of reframing DEI di...
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