Marcus Harrison Green & Nora Kenworthy
In the Meanwhile
No hot takes. No empty platitudes. No easy hope. Just real talk about how we hold onto our humanity, build something better—and maybe even laugh along the way. Bring snacks. Bring questions. We're figuring this out together.
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Marcus Harrison Green & Nora Kenworthy
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 10: Francesca Fiorentini | Fascism Hates a Good Punchline 01.08.2025 1:01:59
This week on In The Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus speak with The Bitchuation Room's Francesca Fiorentini — comedian, journalist, and professional thorn in the side of fascists everywhere. She breaks down why comedy is doing the job cable news is too scared to touch, why billionaires are basically rich toddlers with Wi-Fi, and how the left can stop doomscrolling and start building real power. From Pal...
Ep 9: Matthew Cortland 25.07.2025 1:13:50
In this scorching episode of In The Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus sweat it out—literally and metaphorically—as they sit down with disability rights advocate and policy powerhouse Matthew Cortland. With razor-sharp clarity and raw honesty, Matthew unpacks how Trump's so-called "big, beautiful" budget is actually a legislative wrecking ball aimed at Medicaid, Medicare, and the people who need them most...
Ep 8: Gabriel Teodros 18.07.2025 1:02:24
This week, Nora and Marcus sit down with Gabriel Teodros, MC, poet, educator, organizer, and community time traveler, to talk about how we carry grief, make art, and stay human when the world's on fire (sometimes literally). Gabriel takes us from losing his home in a blaze to creating From the Ashes of Our Homes, his most personal album yet. And along the way, he unpacks what it means to do "love...
Ep 7: Karam Dana | To Stand With Palestine 11.07.2025 1:11:22
What if everything you've been told about Palestine was only half the story, and the half that kept power comfy? This week on In the Meanwhile, Marcus and Nora talk with Palestinian American scholar Karam Dana, whose new book doesn't just unpack the crisis in Gaza—it shreds the whole suitcase of sanitized narratives we've been fed for decades. With the precision of a professor and the fire of some...
Ep 6: Schuyler Mitchell 04.07.2025 56:50
Synopsis: This week on In the Meanwhile, Nora and Marcus sit down with journalist Schuyler Mitchell to unpack how we went from "defund the police" to cities doubling down on militarized crackdowns: complete with riot gear, surveillance drones, and bipartisan gaslighting. Drawing from Mitchell's Truthout exposé on the LAPD's long history of unchecked brutality, the conversation explores how both Tr...
Ep 5: Dean Spade 27.06.2025 1:03:50
Dean Spade joins Nora and Marcus for a conversation about how our relationships show up in our activism, politics, and everyday life. Mentioned in the episode: Love in a F*cked Up World by Dean Spade | Love in a Fucked Up World Podcast | Mutual Aid by Dean Spade | Facing Collapse Together study group | Movement Memos: Bizarre and Dangerous Utopian Ideology Has Quietly Taken Hold of Tech World | Pi...
Ep 4: Empathy 20.06.2025 1:08:39
In this episode, Nora and Marcus wade into the bizarre right-wing war on empathy—where Elon Musk, JD Vance, and others claim that caring about other people is a threat to civilization itself. But beyond the absurdity, they trace how empathy has been weaponized, misunderstood, and hollowed out—from Clinton-era politics to today's culture wars. Together, they ask: How should we show up and care in a...
Bonus Episode: No Kings 18.06.2025 18:38
Mentioned in the episode: So the No Kings March Happened. What Next? (Marcus Harrison Green, South Seattle Emerald) Erica Chenoweth Follow us on Social: https://www.instagram.com/inthemeanwhilepodcast | https://bsky.app/profile/inthemeanwhile.bsky.social *Nora and Marcus' work on the podcast is separate from their professional roles and does not represent the views of their employers. Music: No...
Ep 3: Civic Bravery 13.06.2025 1:09:19
In this episode Nora and Marcus dive headfirst into the dystopian text thread we're all living in: ICE raids in broad daylight, masked agents snatching people off the streets, media complicity, and the federal government going full "authoritarian starter pack." But rather than stew in our fear, today's guests offer pragmatic lessons about what we face and what can be done. Professor Angelina Godoy...
Ep 2: Rupture 13.06.2025 50:33
Five years after a global pandemic, historic protests, and social rupture, where are we now—and what have we forgotten? In this episode, Nora and Marcus Harrison Green dive into the lingering impacts of 2020, from fractured families to the backlash against empathy itself. With humor, honesty, and a touch of John Mayer fandom, they explore how we hold memory, process grief, and dare to vision somet...
Ep 1: Welcome 13.06.2025 34:48
Welcome to the premiere of In the Meanwhile—a podcast for anyone trying to survive the slow-motion apocalypse without losing their soul (or their sense of humor). Professor Nora Kenworthy and journalist Marcus Harrison Green kick things off with a candid, funny, and heartfelt conversation about what it means to live through this messy in-between era—where the old world is collapsing, the new one i...
In The Meanwhile Trailer 12.06.2025 1:04
The old world is collapsing. The new one hasn't arrived. And in between? There's grief, confusion, burnout—and the possibility for something better. Welcome to In The Meanwhile , a weekly podcast hosted by public health scholar Nora Kenworthy and journalist Marcus Harrison Green. No hot takes. No empty platitudes. No easy hope. Just real talk about how we hold onto our humanity, build something...
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