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In-House Outliers

In-House Outliers shares the stories and secrets of those who have taken unconventional paths and challenged conventional notions of how corporate legal departments should operate.

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Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

Always Learning with Plaid's Jo Vong 30.03.2023

Jo Vong, Legal Operations Manager at Plaid, joins Alex Kelly this week to discuss the evolution of legal technology and Jo’s career journey in the field of legal operations. Jo also shared insights into the importance of viewing mistakes as opportunities for personal grow.

Valuing Empathy with Toyota's Meyling Ly Ortiz 24.03.2023

Meyling Ly Ortiz, Managing Counsel of Labor & Employment at Toyota Motor North America, joins Alex Kelly this week to discuss the importance of developing true connections with colleagues, and how to effectively rise to meet daunting professional challenges. Meyling also touched on the impact that her mentors had on her own professional journey, and the path she followed to get where she is to...

Finding Balance with Cox Media Group's Letitia Haynes 16.03.2023

Letitia Haynes, Manager of Legal Operations & Employment Practices at Cox Media Group, joins Alex Kelly this week for a conversation about the importance of good leadership, and why discovering the right work-life balance for you is key to finding happiness in the workplace. Letitia also shared insights into what she learned during her own career journey.

Building Connections with Checkout.com's Niamh Casey 10.03.2023

Niamh Casey, Manager of Legal Operations at Checkout.com, joins Alex this week to discuss the importance of building a professional network, and how mentors can help you discover your full potential. Niamh also shared insights into the traits that make for a great leader in the workplace.

Spearheading Transformation with Datadog's Laurie Ehrlich 02.03.2023

Laurie Ehrlich, Chief Commercial Counsel at Datadog, joins Alex this week to discuss how the prospect of tackling dynamic new challenges attracted her to her current career path. During their conversation, Laurie also touched on how she meaningfully connects with her team, and what makes for an effective manager and leader.

Broadening Your Skillset with Plus Power’s Tara Young 23.02.2023

Tara Young, Deputy General Counsel at Plus Power, joins Alex this week to share some insights into her professional journey and the roles that ultimately led her to becoming an experienced in-house leader. Tara also imparts her advice on skillsets she acquired that were particularly beneficial in helping to level up her career.

Prioritizing Authenticity with High Desert Legal Ops’ Susan Packal 16.02.2023

Susan Packal, Founder and Principal at High Desert Legal Ops, joins Alex for a conversation about the keys to being an effective leader and creating a strong team in the Legal Operations space. During the discussion, Susan also talked about the career path that led her from working in Human Resources to becoming a Legal Operations thought leader.

Embracing Innovation with Trellis' Nicole Clark 09.02.2023

Nicole Clark, Co-Founder and CEO of Trellis, joins Alex this week to discuss how Trellis got its start, and some of the reasons that law firms are hesitant to adopt new legal technologies. Nicole also offers advice for those on the fence about transitioning careers, and reflects on the growth and challenges she’s experienced during her professional journey.

Making a Real Impact with BeiGene's Eric Ortman 02.02.2023

Eric Ortman, Senior Director of Legal Operations at BeiGene, joins Alex this week to discuss how legal operations can make a meaningful difference in the way organizations deliver life-changing products. During their conversation, they also touch on Eric’s early career path, and detail what it was like to work in the legal operations space when it was still in its infancy.

Building Professional Relationships with Lufthansa’s Kathrin Veith 26.01.2023

Kathrin Veith, Manager of Legal Spend at Lufthansa, joins Alex this week to discuss her professional transition from online sales to legal operations, the impact of mentors on her career development, and the ramifications of remote work on the workplace.

Developing Culture with Level7 Legal's Charlotte Smith 19.01.2023

Charlotte Smith, Director of Legal Optimization at Level7 Legal, joins Brightflag's Alex Kelly this week to discuss the early career transitions that led her to where she is today, and the keys to developing a successful workplace culture.

Navigating Adversity with Zendesk’s Sheena Ferrari 12.01.2023

Sheena Ferrari, Director of Legal Operations at Zendesk, joins Alex this week to discuss her career journey, the role of legal operations during uncertain financial times, and the importance of career agility and leaning on professional mentors.

2023 Predictions with Brightflag’s Kevin Cohn 05.01.2023

In the first episode of the new year, Alex is joined by Brightflag’s very own Chief Customer Officer, Kevin Cohn, to discuss his predictions for 2023.

Becoming a Legal Ops Generalist with Live Nation’s Stephanie Lamoureaux 15.12.2022

Stephanie Lamoureaux, Senior Director of Legal Operations at Live Nation joins Alex this week to discuss the importance of becoming a generalist in legal operations. Building transferable skills, and gaining exposure to other areas of the business in an intentional way.

Getting Involved in Sustainability with ENGIE Impact’s Christine Uri 08.12.2022

Christine Uri, CLO, GC, and CSO at ENGIE Impact, joins Alex this week to discuss how to be a proactive business partner and advocate for your budget. They also chat about how a sustainability mission can help to avoid burnout.

The Impact of Legal with Micro Focus’s Jessica Vander Ploeg 01.12.2022

Jessica Vander Ploeg, Senior Director of Legal Operations at Micro Focus joins Alex this week to discuss the benefits of working and learning in an advanced legal ops department and the importance of maintaining a positive mindset.

The Legal Ops Mindset With Elizabeth Miller, VP and Head of Legal Operations at Marqeta 23.11.2022

Elizabeth Miller, VP and Head of Legal Operations at Marqeta joins Alex this week to discuss why her finance skills and inquisitive mindset have been an asset in her legal operations career.

The Reality of Legal Operations with Peloton’s Tommie Ferreira 17.11.2022

Tommie Ferreira, Director of Legal Operations at Peleton joins Alex on the podcast this week where they discuss her journey from paralegal to legal ops leader throughout her time at HBO, AMC, Rakuten, and Peloton and the lessons learned along the way.

Relationship Building in Legal Ops With Rosella Tibig, Operations Expert and CAPM at SAP 10.11.2022

Rosella Tibig, Operations Expert and CAPM at SAP, joins Alex this week to discuss her long career at SAP, the importance of empathy in legal ops, and how her experience working with law firms helped her to understand how best to work with Outside Counsel.

Shifting Away From the Hourly Rate with Value Strategies Ken Callander 03.11.2022

Ken Callander, Managing Principal at Value Strategies, joins Alex this week to discuss the options available to legal teams looking to transition away from hourly billing.

The Path to Legal Operations with iManage's Megan Ostling 27.10.2022

Megan Ostling, Legal Operations Manager at iManage joins Alex this week to discuss how the path to legal operations isn't always a straight line, and how her career path began with sports law.

Structuring Legal Ops in Fast-Paced Businesses with Netflix's John Elliott 20.10.2022

John Elliott, Legal Operations and Technology Manager at Netflix joins Alex this week to discuss the importance of relationships, open communication, and problem identification when working in a fast-paced business.

Navigating Legal Ops in Large Organizations with Cloud Software Group's Adrienne Schaal 13.10.2022

Adrienne Schaal, Director of Legal Operations at TIBCO, now Cloud Software Group, joins Alex to discuss the unconventional way she found herself in Legal Operations at GE and the differences between working on small vs large legal ops teams. 

Why Operations is Key to Scaling your Legal Department with Stephanie Corey 29.09.2022

Alex is re-joined by our first ever In-House Outliers Guest, Stephanie Corey, CEO & Co Founder of UpLevel Ops. They chat about the return of in-person work, why more in-house legal teams are focusing on operations and how to build a winning business case for scaling your legal department

How to Transition from Lawyer to Legal Ops Leader with TomTom's Matilde Montanari 23.09.2022

In this episode, Alex chats with Matilde Montanari, Legal Operations Officer @TomTom. Matilde discusses her path from lawyer to legal ops officer and the shift in mindset she had to take when she made the switch. She also gives great advice to any lawyers who want to make the same career transition. Liked what you heard on today’s episode? Connect with Alex<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/a...

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