The Nature Institute
In Dialogue with Nature
A podcast by The Nature Institute in Ghent, NY. At the institute we see science as a participatory process. We work to develop dynamic and flexible thinking that can perceive wholeness and do justice to the rich complexity of the world.
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May 22, 2026
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A Conversation on "Beyond Boundaries" 22.05.2026 38:30
As a companion to the article "Beyond Boundaries: Thoughts on a Science of the Living," this episode features a conversation between the authors -- Jon McAlice and Craig Holdrege -- with podcast host John Gouldthorpe. They pick up and develop central themes from the article about the relationships and marvelously complementary distinctions between plants, animals, and humans. This articl...
To Explain or Portray? 24.04.2026 25:57
This article by emeritus researcher Stephen Talbott, originally published in 2003 ( In Context #9 ), attempts to illuminate what Goethe meant when he said his “intention is to portray rather than to explain.” Steve gives a living characterization of portrayal by comparing and contrasting it to explanation. This episode should be paired with Craig Holdrege’s audio article “Characterize, Don’t Defin...
Characterize, Don’t Define: Developing a Goethean Approach in Science Education 11.02.2026 13:40
In this reading of a short article originally written for Waldorf science teachers, Craig Holdrege provides a concentrated expression of the heart of our work at The Nature Institute: to come to a more living understanding of the world through participatory research and to help others to do the same through transformative education.
A Conversation on "Factors" 21.11.2025 48:36
As a companion to the previous episode, which shared a reading of Craig Holdrege's essay "The Trouble With 'Factors'," this episode features a conversation between Craig and podcast host John Gouldthorpe where they delve deeper into the content of Craig's essay and its wider ramifications. By bringing to clear consciousness our automatic tendency to reduce the world aroun...
The Trouble With "Factors" 21.11.2025 31:43
A reading of “The Trouble With 'Factors'" by Craig Holdrege. This article carefully, and thoughtfully, reflects on the tendency of modern scientific investigation to analyze organisms into their component parts and the organism's environment into a myriad of separate factors. How might we see the organism in its wholeness, its natural environment, and its connectedness? The essay...
Earth Alive 19.06.2025 52:53
In a talk given at the institute in celebration of Earth Day, Craig Holdrege explores in what sense we might speak of the earth itself as alive.
In Praise of Slowness: What Does It Mean to Be a Sloth? 27.03.2025 55:38
In this reading of the first chapter in Craig Holdrege's book, Seeing the Animal Whole—And Why It Matters, discover how the phlegmatic sloth orchestrates its peculiar existence.
Celebrating Trees 14.01.2025 52:34
In this recording of a talk at The Nature Institute in 2024, Jon McAlice shares how trees are in the world and explores our opportunity for kinship with them.
A Conversation on Plant Intelligence 16.10.2024 45:29
As a companion to the previous episode that shared a reading of Jon McAlice’s and Craig Holdrege’s article on plant intelligence, this episode airs a conversation with Jon, Craig, and podcast host John Gouldthorpe on this complex topic.
Are Plants Intelligent? 16.10.2024 29:10
A reading of the article “Are Plants Intelligent?” by Craig Holdrege and Jon McAlice (from the Spring 2024 issue of In Context) is featured in this episode. This article is the first to arise out of our current research into the complex topic of assigning intelligence to organisms.
"Two Moons?" by Martin Wagenschein 31.07.2024 39:28
In a reading of Martin Wagenschein's essay "Two Moons?" he contrasts the view of the physicist versus the poet when considering the moon.
The Wisdom of Plants — Craig Holdrege 16.05.2024 49:01
In a talk recorded at the institute, Craig Holdrege honors Earth Day with a presentation revealing some of the remarkable qualities of the plant world, the “mantle of the earth.” Craig showed slides to illustrate certain points. The images are not necessary to appreciate the talk, but they can be downloaded here if desired.
Living in the Present: Practices for Being In and With Nature 30.03.2024 1:03:02
In this recorded live talk at the institute by Ryan Shea, he explores ways in which we might receive the capacity of presence directly from nature by working with lessons from plant and animal teachers.
On Goethe and His Science 29.01.2024 36:06
In a rare interview, recorded in Brazil in 2019, Henrike and Craig Holdrege speak of their transformative work and the Goethean perspective that has long inspired it.
"Where Does an Animal End? — The American Bison" with Craig Holdrege (Part 3) 04.12.2023 33:10
The final installment of our 3-part podcast on the American bison, Craig's reading focuses on the animal as a many-layered being with a web of both physical boundaries and expansive living relations. The bison is more than a thing among things. A discussion follows the reading.
"Where Does an Animal End? — The American Bison" with Craig Holdrege (Part 2) 02.11.2023 43:34
Following up on the bison's manifold ways of being highlighted in Part 1, this second episode portrays the relationship between the members of the Great Plains tribes and the bison. It offers glimpses of the continuity that can be experienced between a being’s physical and spiritual life.
"Where Does an Animal End? – The American Bison" with Craig Holdrege (Part 1) 17.10.2023 1:08:22
Here is Part 1 of our three-episode podcast based on Craig Holdrege’s in-depth article, “Where Does an Animal End? – The American Bison” which first appeared in issue #45 of In Context , our biannual publication. Each part features a reading from the article followed by a conversation with the author. Part 2 will air in November, followed by Part 3 in December.
"Two Kinds of Darkness" with Henrike Holdrege 31.08.2023 44:10
The Nature Institute co-founder and educator Henrike Holdrege joins podcast host John Gouldthorpe to discuss a unique demonstration she employs to reveal the wonderful relational aspect of visual experience in our world.
"Experience, Imagination & the Nature of Meaning" with Jon McAlice 15.06.2023 53:56
In a talk recorded at the institute in April 2023, Jon McAlice briefly traces the philosophical history of man’s relation to meaning in the natural world through the ideas of various 18th century thinkers. Jon then arrives at his central theme: In a world increasingly objectified by science and technology, are there ways of being that allow us to experience the presence of meaning in the natural w...
"Where do Organisms End?" by Craig Holdrege 05.04.2023 1:01:08
Welcome to our two-part podcast. First, we share a recording of Craig Holdrege reading his essay, “Where Do Organisms End?” (which first appeared in our third issue of In Context). Following this, our podcast host John Gouldthorpe and Craig discuss challenging our habitual way of making sense of living beings through their physical characteristics, and instead by way of their relationships.
Appreciating Barry Lopez 23.12.2022 1:09:37
From a talk recorded at the institute in November, Jon McAlice takes us through the biography and works of award-winning writer Barry Lopez, whose life was defined by a profound connection to the more-than-human world. Lopez died in 2020, bequeathing us a trove of essays, fiction, and non-fiction that invites all to understand and enjoy nature as he did — as alive and responsive.
Toward a Participative Science 31.10.2022 1:08:35
Featuring the reading of remarks from a 2003 interview on Goethean science with Arthur Zajonc, professor emeritus of physics at Amherst College, this episode also includes a conversation about Zajonc’s central points between podcast host and institute educator, John Gouldthorpe, and Elaine Khosrova, editor of the institute’s publication, In Context .
Portraying Milkweed 03.08.2022 29:17
Here we bring our focus to a plant that Craig Holdrege describes as both “effusive, yet also specialized. Milkweed invites life, but also holds it back. There is a fascinating tension in this plant.” Reading from an abridged version of his whole-organism study of milkweed published on our website ( The Story of an Organism: Common Milkweed ), Craig brings together his observations with those...
Do Frogs Come From Tadpoles? 21.06.2022 46:52
When we give careful attention to what is actually happening when a new phase of life develops out of a previous stage, there are large implications for our overall understanding of developmental processes and evolution. That is the theme of Craig’s lecture, “Do Frogs Come from Tadpoles?” featured in this episode of our podcast. Click here for the accompanying illustrations that Craig refers to du...
Being with the World: A Path to Qualitative Insight 02.05.2022 52:43
Craig Holdrege, director at The Nature Institute, gave this keynote address on the qualitative experience of nature as a conscious practice at the 2022 Annual International Conference of Biodynamic Agriculture in Dornach, Switzerland. Sharing this approach to nature has been at the core of The Nature Institute's work since 1998. Hear the full recorded talk in this episode.
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