In-Between Charges

The EV charging industry is entering a market-rate moment. Incentives are fading in many markets, growth has slowed from the early-2020s surge, and operators are under real pressure to prove their business models. In this start-of-year episode of In-Between Charges , Kevin Spangenberg and Mike Hawks reflect on what 2025 revealed about the state of EV charging, from shifting government targets and...

Some DC fast charging sites print money. Others quietly ruin portfolio-wide ROI. In this episode of In-Between Charges , Kevin and Mike sit down with Rohan Puri, CEO & Co-Founder of Stable Auto, to unpack why. Stable Auto works with many of the largest American CPOs and investors to predict utilization, pick winning locations, and set smarter prices for DC fast charging networks. Rohan shares...

Getting from A to B in an EV isn’t as simple as swapping gas for kWh. It is a fundamentally different experience. The companies - CPOs and eMSPs - that serve EV drivers have to navigate a challenging maze to profitability.  Gideon van Dijk from chargetrip joins Mike and Kevin to unpack what CPOs must own - digital, physical, and everything in between - to put themselves in a position to succeed in...

Founded in 2016, Einride is a freight tech company from Sweden, providing end-to-end technology solutions for electric and autonomous shipping. Starting with trucks and tech, it quickly realized the charging infrastructure in its home market was not ready to meet their unique needs. So they became a CPO as well. They are building Scandinavian-design charging stations throughout the Nordics, poweri...

In this episode of In-Between Charges , Kevin and Mike sit down with Rami Syväri, advisor and founder at beY0nd, to unpack the evolving dynamics of performance, strategy, and resilience in the EV charging industry. With a rich background spanning Fortum, Swisscharge, and now advising CPOs across Europe, Rami brings a front-row perspective to what “good” really looks like in a CPO’s operation, and...

In this episode of In-Between Charges, Kevin and Mike welcome Chris Kaiser, founder of PlugIn and longtime clean energy advocate. Chris shares his journey from energy-efficient lighting to launching his own EV charging network, which is built on reliability, a great driver experience, and, now, the Monta platform. His story offers a candid look at what it takes to build a charging business in the...

In this episode of In-Between Charges, hosts Kevin Spangenberg and Mike Hawkes talk with Heiko Bayer, Managing Director at The Mobility House. Heiko shares how the company is helping fleets transition to electric a smarter approach to fleet management, and energy market integrations. He explains how The Mobility House reduces their client’s costs, increases their reliability, and simplifies the el...

In this episode of In-Between Charges, we welcome back Ryan Fisher, Head of Charging Infrastructure at BloombergNEF, for an insightful discussion on the evolving EV charging landscape. With automakers increasingly stepping into the charging business, we explore how their strategies are shifting—balancing investment in infrastructure with the need for profitability. Ryan shares his take on why majo...

In this episode, we chat with Gavin Morse, CMO of Egg, about how community-driven initiatives are making clean energy more accessible, reducing strain on the grid, and creating new opportunities for consumers. Here’s what we cover: How the UK became Europe’s top EV market and what’s next. The impact of local initiatives Making clean energy affordable: practical solutions for EV charging, solar, an...

In this episode, Mike and Kevin sit down with Rikard Boije af Gennäs, head of Implement Consulting’s e-mobility division, to reflect on the challenges of 2024 and discuss what’s on the horizon for the EV and charging sector in 2025. Here’s what we cover: Lessons from 2024: Why EV demand didn’t meet expectations and what it means for the industry. Charging operators’ challenges: How operators are a...

Electric vehicles (EVs) are no longer just a glimpse of the future—they’re here, and transforming how we think about transportation. But the transition to electrification isn’t without its hurdles. From global policy challenges to supply chain bottlenecks and lingering misconceptions, the EV landscape is as complex as it is promising.   In this episode, Kevin and Mike discuss the dynamic shifts ha...

Electric vehicles are reshaping the way we think about transportation, and at the heart of this shift is the challenge of charging. In this episode, Kevin Spangenberg and Mike Hawkes sit down with Mads Vind, Managing Director of Stella Energy (formerly known as Viggo Energy) to discuss how the company is driving innovation in EV charging and building a future-ready infrastructure for professional...

Welcome back to In-Between Charges, we are back for season 3!  In this strong return, our hosts Mike and Kevin are joined by Pär Möller, the Global Head of Business and Partnership Development at Mer, a leading international operator in the EV charging industry. Together, they delve into Mer's journey of building a sustainable charging network across Europe, touching on the company's str...

Hosts Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg are joined by Jaap Burger, Senior Advisor on EV Grid Integration. Jaap brings his extensive experience and knowledge to discuss the nuances of smart charging for electric vehicles and the policies that maximize its potential for a decarbonized power market and grid. Jump into the current state of smart charging in Europe, and explore with us  how different r...

Summer has arrived and it’s time for that annual road trip. Hopping in your EV and wondering how to navigate EV charging across borders? Or why the price of a kWh can vary so widely? This episode of “In-Between Charges” has the answers to all your questions. Hosts Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg speak with famed “EV Travel Hacker” Electric Felix. Felix spends all his time driving and charging th...

In this episode of "In Between Charges," hosts Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg sit down with Roel Visser, the Chief Commercial Officer at Milence, delving into the transformative world of electric heavy-duty vehicles. They delve into Roel's insights on the rapid growth of electric truck sales in Europe, the challenges of establishing a reliable charging infrastructure, and Mylans&...

In this episode of "In Between Charges," hosts Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg chat with Dr. Andreas Barnekov Thingvad from Hybrid Greentech. Andreas brings his expertise in hybrid energy systems to the table, discussing how these technologies are revolutionizing our approach to energy storage and making renewable sources more effective. He simplifies complex concepts, making it easy t...

Joining Kevin and Mike for this episode of "In Between Charges" is Ryan Fisher, an electrified transport analyst for Bloomberg NEF. From his early days working on projects like the I-PACE and Second Life Batteries to analyzing the rapid evolution of charging technologies and corporate strategies, Ryan illuminates the intricate web of developments shaping the future of electric mobility....

In this episode of "In Between Charges," Mike and Kevin engage in a deep conversation with Dr. Andreas Piepenbrink from E3/DC and the Hager Group, who shares his transition from the automotive industry to leading the charge in home energy management. The discussion illuminates the progress and potential of renewable energy, the role of electric vehicles in energy systems, and the dream o...

This episode of In Between Charges takes listeners on a unique journey through the streets of Copenhagen, exploring the world of electric vehicle (EV) charging. Hosts Kevin and Mike embark on a lively adventure, testing out various charging stations and discussing the evolving landscape of EV charging infrastructure. They delve into topics like the practicalities and challenges of EV charging in d...

Gear up for an electrifying journey into the world of Formula E racing with this episode of 'In-Between Charges.' Hosted by Mike Hawkes and Kevin Spangenberg, this episode features an insightful discussion with Chris Dyer and Albert Lau, two of McLaren’s distinguished Formula E engineers.  Dive deep into the nuances of efficiency in electric racing, as our guests reveal the secrets behin...

Join hosts Kevin and Mike in our special year-end episode of In Between Charges. Together, we will dive into the electrifying world of climate tech with Mark Tomasovic, principal for Energize Capital.  In this illuminating conversation, we explore the major climate tech trends of the past year, the evolution of EVs in the US, and a forward-looking discussion on what 2024 holds. Mark shares insight...

Listen in on this Autumnal Wednesday as Mike and Kevin meet with Luca Scherrer and Lukas Lutz, co-founders of Sphere Energy, to explore the battery mega trend and its sweeping impact on multiple industries. Together, they unravel the fascinating world of batteries, from production and development acceleration to understanding their significance in the EV industry.  Luca and Lukas explain how the b...

Welcome to season 2 of In Between Charges! We are still the best podcast to listen to while waiting for your EV to charge. For the season premiere, hosts Mike and Kevin raced to get the best guest and make this new season take off like no other! Puns aside, we’re debuting this new season with a star guest: NEOM McLaren’s Formula E and Extreme E racing Managing Director, Ian James.  Calling in from...