Miriam Vogel

In AI We Trust?

In AI We Trust? is a podcast with Miriam Vogel of EqualAI that amplifies leaders and voices from across society who are defining, developing, and deploying AI best practices across government, industry, academia, and civil society. In each episode, Miriam sits down with guests to demystify the technology, discuss the importance of AI governance and AI literacy, and spark conversations about people’s hopes, fears, and opportunities in an AI-shaped future.

Author

Miriam Vogel

Category

Technology

Podcast website

equalai.transistor.fm

Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Dr. Margaret Mitchell: How can we ensure AI reflects our values – and why this matters to each of us? 10.05.2022

Dr. Margaret Mitchell is a renowned researcher who has won numerous awards for her work developing practical tools to combine ethics and machine learning. Last Fall, Dr. Mitchell joined the AI startup Hugging Face ( "to democratize good machine learning") and previously research positions at Google and Microsoft. In this episode, Dr. Mitchell articulates numerous challenges in the endeavor to crea...

Rep. Don Beyer (D-VA): Can the U.S. Congress Create Legislative Frameworks to Support AI Development (and should it)? 26.04.2022

Rep. Don Beyer (D-VA) is Chair of Congress' Joint Economic Committee and serves on the Ways and Means and the Science, Space and Technology Committees, as well as a member of the AI Caucus- and in his spare time, he is pursuing a Masters Degree in Artificial Intelligence. In this episode, Rep. Beyer explains his enthusiasm for AI and the opportunities it presents to enhance human life -- (e.g., be...

Mira Lane (Microsoft): Can compassion lead to better AI? 14.04.2022

Mira Lane, a a polymath, technologist and artist, is the head of Ethics & Society at Microsoft, a multidisciplinary group responsible for guiding AI innovation that leads to ethical, responsible, and sustainable outcomes. In this episode, she shares how the culture at Microsoft includes compassion in AI development to the benefit of their AI products, how she changes the perception of responsi...

Dr. Athina Kanioura (PepsiCo): Is AI a Privilege Reserved for Big Tech? 08.04.2022

Dr. Athina Kanioura is Chief Strategy and Transformation Officer at PepsiCo, leading their company-wide transformation in digital strategy. In this episode, Athina opens our eyes to ways that companies like PepsiCo are using AI (and equally important, where they are not). She shares challenges in undergoing a digital transformation and explains their legacy-focused approach to AI integration as a...

Keith Sonderling, EEOC Commissioner: Does AI scale or reduce bias in the workplace? 31.03.2022

Keith Sonderling is a Commissioner of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and helped launch the EEOC's unprecedented Initiative on Artificial Intelligence and Algorithmic Fairness in 2021. In this episode, he shares guidance for employers on building, buying and employing AI programs in HR systems and shares his optimism on the unique opportunity we have at this moment to ensur...

MP Darren Jones: 'Horizon Scanning' to Design Better AI Regulation 17.03.2022

Darren Jones is Member of UK Parliament who has chaired the Parliamentary Technology Information and Communications Forum, Parliamentary Commission on Technology Ethics, and Labour Digital. Darren is also the founding chair of the Institute of AI, a global coalition of legislators interested in AI, and he is a member of the World Economic Forum (WEF) Global AI Action Alliance (GAIAA). In this epis...

Ziad Obermeyer: A physician, academic, McKinsey alum's approach to tackling bias in AI 09.03.2022

Ziad Obermeyer is a Professor of Health Policy and Management at the UC Berkeley School of Public Health where he conducts research at the intersection of machine learning, medicine, and health policy. Previously, he was a professor at Harvard Medical School and consultant at McKinsey & Co. He continues to practice emergency medicine in underserved parts of the US and is also a co-founder of N...

Jen Gennai (Google): How to Manage the Creation of Responsible AI Products for Billions 04.03.2022

Jen Gennai is Founder and Director of the Responsible Innovation Group at Google. In her current role leading the Responsible Innovation Group, Jen and her team are responsible for creating and operationalizing Google’s AI Principles. In this episode, Jen shares what responsible AI means to her, lessons learned that inform her perspective from which we all can learn, how AI should or should not be...

Ilana Golbin (PwC): Does sci-fi help or hinder AI understanding? 24.02.2022

Ilana Golbin is a Director in PwC Labs leading projects on Emerging Technology and AI. She is a Certified Ethical Emerging Technologist and was recently recognized in Forbes as one of 15 leaders advancing Ethical AI. In this episode, Ilana shares the principles she uses to ensure confidence in AI systems used both internally, at PWC, and when advising clients. She explains some of the complexities...

Renee Cummings: How AI Does (& Should) Impact Our BHM Celebration 17.02.2022

Renée Cummings is a pioneering AI ethicist, Criminologist, Columbia University Community Scholar, and Founder of Urban AI. Her studies focus on the impact of AI on criminal justice, specifically in communities of color and incarcerated populations. In this episode, you will be inspired by Renee's insights on the impact that AI and data science has on our civil rights, how increasing diversity in A...

Marco Casalaina (Salesforce): Techno-Optimist not a Techno-Chauvinist 11.02.2022

In this episode, Marco Casalaina, Salesforce’s SVP of Product Management and GM of Einstein, explains how his decades of experience in AI and tech has resulted in his techno-optimism, how an AI ethicist enhances his work and why he encourages others to join the EqualAI badge program. He also shares his excitement about rapidly developing transforming models but illuminates how this technology will...

Mukesh Dalal, Stanley Black & Decker (SBD): Why all companies will need a Chief AI Officer 04.02.2022

As the Chief AI officer at Stanley Black and Decker (SBD), Mukesh Dalal has helped transform a 178-year-old global manufacturing company’s approach to AI with the vision of delivering $1 billion of value to the company through AI and Analytics. In this week’s episode, Mukesh outlines SBD’s forward-thinking strategy on AI, describes SBD’s journey into the responsible AI space, and foresees that soo...

Meghna Sinha: Why data scientists are like medical professionals; why ignorance is not an option and steps we all must take when making data-based decisions 28.01.2022

Meghna Sinha is the Vice President of AI and Data at Verizon’s AI Center. Before joining Verizon, Meghna was Target’s VP of Data Sciences. In this episode, Meghna posits that data scientists are similar to medical practitioners, affirms that AI must start and end with humans, and shares lessons from the EqualAI Badge Program for Responsible AI Governance. Referenced papers/articles can be found he...

In AI we Trust welcomes its acclaimed new cohost, Kay Firth-Butterfield of the World Economic Forum 18.01.2022

Kay Firth-Butterfield is a leader in AI governance. Her deep and wide-ranging experience as an entrepreneur, barrister, judge, and now as Head of Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning and member of the Executive Committee at the World Economic Forum, has established Kay as an internationally recognized expert on the subject. Her numerous titles and awards include being featured in the New Y...

A year in review: the path toward responsible AI in 2021 (and farewell to Mark episode) 07.01.2022

In this episode, cohosts Miriam Vogel and Mark Caine share the conversations and highlights that have inspired them in 2021 and predict what we can expect to see in this space in 2021. We also bid farewell to Mark as he departs the World Economic Forum and takes on new adventures.

Amy Holcroft: How HPE is "living it in action" how the EqualAI Badge program, in collaboration with WEF, has helped this effort 09.12.2021

Amy Holcroft is the Chief Privacy Officer and VP of Privacy & Info Governance at Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE). In this episode, Amy shares how she co-leads the establishment of HPE’s AI Ethics Advisory board and HPE’s AI Ethical Principles. She shares that her work requires resilience and thoughtful governance, and how participation in the EqualAI Badge Program on Responsible AI Governance...

Seth Dobrin: How do you establish a human-centered approach to data and AI (and why is this necessary to succeed)? 11.11.2021

Seth Dobrin is the Global Chief AI Officer of IBM. Seth has spent his career scaling and using existing technologies to address previously intractable problems at scale. In this episode, Seth shares concrete steps he has taken to create a more diverse and trust-based workplace, explains how his PhD in genetics is relevant and helpful to his current work in AI, and breaks down the what, why and how...

Kat Zhou: What is the role of design in creating inclusive and equitable AI? 03.11.2021

Kat Zhou is a product designer focusing on integrating ethics into the design of AI systems. She is a leading voice for more inclusive and privacy-respecting approaches to AI, and she has called for greater regulation of AI and more human-centric business models for AI companies. In this episode, we ask Kat how governments, product designers, and corporate decision makers can minimize the harms of...

Alex Kotran: Who needs AI literacy and how can we accelerate it? 28.10.2021

Alex Kotran is the co-founder and CEO of the AI Education Project, a non-profit that brings AI-related knowledge and skills to communities that are being impacted by AI and automation. In this episode, Alex highlights how the communities that are most impacted by AI are often the ones with the least access to basic AI knowledge, and how this is creating disparities in access to healthcare, financi...

Meg King of the Wilson Center: Who is ensuring policy makers are able to "speak AI"? 22.10.2021

Meg King is the Director of the Science and Technology Innovation Program at the Wilson Center; a non-partisan think tank created by Congress. She leads innovative transnational projects examining the development of emerging technology and related policy opportunities. Her program also provides training seminars for Congressional and Executive branch staff to develop technology knowledge and skill...

David Hardoon: Can AI be ethical? 14.10.2021

In this episode, we speak with David Hardoon, a self-proclaimed "data artist." He leads Data and AI efforts at UnionBank Philippines and serves as an external advisor to Singapore's Corrupt Investigation Practices Bureau (CPIB). David has extensive experience in both industry and academia with a PhD in Computer Science and B.Sc. in Computer Science and AI. He weighs in on both the high level conce...

Rep. Yvette Clarke: Why is AI regulation necessary during this time of racial reckoning? 06.10.2021

Find out on this week's episode with special guest Congresswoman Yvette Clarke (NY-9th) why she makes AI a top priority in her work to protect vulnerable populations. ----- To learn more about EqualAI, visit our website: https://www.equalai.org/ You can also follow us on Twitter: @ai_equal

Elham Tabassi of NIST: Who ensures the U.S. has strong metrics, tools, & standards for responsible AI? 28.09.2021

Observers have been skeptical about the ability of the US to lead in AI and establish the necessary framework to ensure its safe and effective development. NIST – the National Institute of Standards and Technology – is responding to that call. In this episode, we speak with Elham Tabassi who is leading NIST's work to support safe and effective Artificial Intelligence. Elham the Chief of Staff in t...

Taka Ariga and Stephen Sanford: What is the U.S. GAO's AI Framework? 23.09.2021

Taka Ariga is the first Chief Data Scientist and Director of the Innovation Lab at the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO). Stephen Sanford is the Managing Director in GAO’s Strategic Planning and External Liaison team. Taka and Stephen are the authors of the GAO's recently released AI Framework, one of the first resources provided by the U.S. government to help identify best practices and...

Vilas Dhar: How can civil society shape a positive, human-centric future for AI? 16.09.2021

Vilas Dhar is a technologist, lawyer, and human rights advocate championing a new social compact for the digital age. As President and Trustee of the Patrick J. McGovern Foundation, he is a global leader in advancing artificial intelligence and data solutions to create a thriving, equitable, and sustainable future for all. In this episode we ask Vilas how he arrived at the intersection of AI and p...

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