Miriam Vogel
In AI We Trust?
In AI We Trust? is a podcast with Miriam Vogel of EqualAI that amplifies leaders and voices from across society who are defining, developing, and deploying AI best practices across government, industry, academia, and civil society. In each episode, Miriam sits down with guests to demystify the technology, discuss the importance of AI governance and AI literacy, and spark conversations about people’s hopes, fears, and opportunities in an AI-shaped future.
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Jul 8, 2026
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Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA): Can Congress regulate AI? 27.09.2023 28:49
Representative Ted Lieu (D-CA) joins this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? to discuss how Congress should approach AI legislation, the impact of generative AI, and U.S. AI efforts on the global stage. Tune in to learn more about Representative Lieu’s computer science focused approach to AI policy and more.
Secretary Michael Chertoff and Lucy Thomson (ABA): How is AI reshaping the legal landscape? 30.08.2023 50:42
Tune into this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? with former United States Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, and Lucy Thomson (American Bar Association), to learn the ways in which AI is changing the legal landscape, how the ABA is tackling this issue (spoiler alert: we applaud the launch of the new AI TF), and to learn the Secretary’s “Three D's” of AI governance.
Sarah Hammer (Wharton School) and Dr. Philipp Hacker (European University Viadrina): Can AI accelerate the UN Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs)? 26.07.2023 59:22
Professor Sarah Hammer, Executive Director at the Wharton School of the U. of Penn and leads Wharton Cypher Accelerator and Dr. Philipp Hacker, Chair for Law and Ethics of the Digital Society at the European New School of Digital Studies at European University join this week on In AI We Trust? to debrief their recent #AIforGood Conference. Listen to the discussion for insights on how financial reg...
Chair Charlotte Burrows (EEOC): Is your AI system violating civil rights laws? 12.07.2023 45:40
In this week’s episode, we are joined by Chair of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) Charlotte Burrows, who highlights the EEOC’s work to address AI proliferation in the employment sphere. She discusses the need to increase education of the public on how AI is being used, EEOC guidance on key civil rights bills such as the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and Title VII of...
Kevin McKee (DeepMind): How does AI influence the core of being human? 05.07.2023 35:57
Tune in to this week’s episode of In AI We Trust? , where Kevin McKee, Senior Research Scientist at Google DeepMind, discusses issues of AI fairness, AI’s impact on the LGBT+ community, and the balance between developing AI that humans can trust and the anthropomorphization of technology. Kevin leads research projects focused on machine learning, social psychology, and sociotechnical systems and h...
Chris Wood (LGBT Tech): How can we ensure our LGBT+ voices are heard through our data? 28.06.2023 45:00
This week on In AI we Trust? Executive Director of LGBT Tech, Chris Wood, joins Miriam Vogel and guest-co-host Kathy Baxter for a special episode in celebration of Pride Month. Join this week’s conversation on the duality of technology for the LGBT community – how it can be an impactful medium to foster connection in the LGBT+ community or a harmful tool leveraged against the same individuals – th...
Gilman Louie (America’s Frontier Fund, CEO of In-Q-Tel, NSCAI Comm’r): How will we respond to this ‘Sputnik’ moment? 24.05.2023 53:24
Gilman Louie is CEO and co-founder of America’s Frontier Fund, CEO of In-Q-Tel, and an NSCAI Commissioner. Tune into this week’s episode of In AI We Trust , where Gilman shares his thoughts on the government's role in regulating, funding, and convening key stakeholders to promote responsible AI. Gilman invokes similar moments of technological innovation in our history to contextualize the opportun...
Rep. Chrissy Houlahan (D-PA): How do we prepare Congress for the age of AI? 03.05.2023 30:01
Meet one of the Bad A#%* women in Congress, Representative Chrissy Houlahan (D-PA). She is a trailblazer: a strong advocate for and accomplished practitioner in STEAM (science, technology, engineering, art and math) as an engineer, Air Force veteran, successful entrepreneur and former chemistry teacher. This week on In AI We Trust? Miriam Vogel and special guest co-host Victoria Espinel of #BSA as...
Dr. Haniyeh Mahmoudian (DataRobot): Who should be involved in AI ethics? 26.04.2023 41:40
In this episode of In AI We Trust? Dr. Haniyeh Mahmoudian, Global AI Ethicist at DataRobot, provides insight into the timely and critical role of an AI ethicist. Haniyeh explains how culture is a key element of responsible AI development. She also reflects on the questions to ask in advance of designing an AI model and the importance of engaging multiple stakeholders to design AI effectively. Tune...
Justin Hotard (Hewlett Packard Enterprise): Are local communities and data the key to unlocking better AI? 05.04.2023 40:14
Justin Hotard leads the High Performance Computing (HPC) & AI business group at Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE). Tune in to In AI we Trust? this week as he discusses supercomputing, HPE’s commitment to open source models for global standardization and using responsible data to ensure responsible AI. – Resources mentioned in this episode: What are supercomputers and why are they important? An...
Jordan Crenshaw (U.S. Chamber of Commerce): Can your company survive without AI adoption? 10.03.2023 38:01
Based on the testimony of 87 witnesses from 5 field hearings across the US, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce bipartisan AI Commission on Competition, Inclusion, and Innovation released a report yesterday, addressing the state of AI. Tune in this week to hear the U.S. Chamber’s Technology Engagement Center (C_TEC) VP, Jordan Crenshaw share key takeaways from this and other recent C_TEC reports, why tec...
Elham Tabassi and Reva Schwarz (NIST): What's the big deal about the NIST AI Risk Management Framework (AI RMF)? 06.02.2023 50:21
Elham Tabassi and Reva Schwartz – two AI leaders from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) – join us this week to discuss the AI Risk Management Framework #AIRMF released on January 26th thanks to the herculean efforts of our guests. Tune in to find out why Miriam Vogel and Kay Firth-Butterfield believe the AI RMF will be game changing. Learn the purpose behind the AI RMF; the...
Davos in Review: Should we hit 'pause' on generative AI? 02.02.2023 34:35
The annual World Economic Forum (WEF) at Davos gathers leading thinkers in government, business and civil society annually to discuss current global economic and social challenges. This week, listen to WEF Executive Committee Member, our own co-host Kay Firth-Butterfield, and Miriam Vogel discuss why this was Kay's “best Davos yet”. Not surprisingly, generative AI and ChatGPT were among the hottes...
Dr. Stuart Russell (UC Berkeley): Are we living in an AGI world? 18.01.2023 51:03
Dr. Stuart Russell (CS Prof, UC Berkeley) has kept us current on AI developments for decades and in this week’s episode, prepares us for the headlines we’ll hear about this week @Davos and in the coming year. He shares his thoughts and concerns on ChatGPT, Lethal Autonomous Weapons Systems, how the future of work might look through an AI lens, and a human compatible design for AI. Listen to this e...
2022 Year in Review: Are we ready for what’s coming in AI? 11.01.2023 33:53
In this special year-in-review edition of "In AI we Trust?", co-hosts Kay Firth-Butterfield (@KayFButterfield) and Miriam Vogel (@VogelMiriam) take a look back at the key themes and insights from their conversations. From interviews with thought leaders, government officials and senior executives in the field, we explore progress and challenges from the past year in the quest for trustworthy AI. W...
Dr. Suresh Venkatasubramanian (White House OSTP/Brown University): Can AI be as safe as our seatbelts? 19.12.2022 46:00
In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Suresh Venkatasubramanian, a former official at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) and CS professor at Brown, to discuss his work in the White House developing policy, including the AI Bill of Rights Blueprint. Suresh also posits on the basis for current AI challenges as failure of imagination, the need to engage diverse voices in A...
Joaquin Quiñonero Candela (LinkedIn): Can we meet business goals AND attain responsible AI? (spoiler: we can and must) 07.12.2022 43:56
This week, Joaquin Quiñonero Candela (LinkedIn, formerly at Facebook and Microsoft) joins us to discuss AI storytelling; ethics by design; the imperative of diversity to create effective AI; and strategies he uses to make responsible AI a priority for the engineers he manages, policy-makers he advises, and other important stakeholders. — Materials mentioned in this episode: Technology Primer: Soci...
Deputy Secretary Graves (DOC) answers the question: Can We Maintain Our AI Lead? (spoiler alert: We are AI Ready!) 16.11.2022 38:22
The Department of Commerce plays a key role in the USG’s leadership in AI given the multiple ways AI is used, patented and governed by the Department. In this special episode, hear from Commerce Deputy Secretary Don Graves on how the US intends to maintain leadership in AI, including through its creation of standards to attain trustworthy AI, working with our allies and ensuring an inclusive and r...
Carl Hahn (NOC): When your AI reaches from the cosmos to the seafloor, and the universe in between, how can you ensure it is safe and trustworthy? 02.11.2022 44:22
Carl Hahn, Vice President and Chief compliance officer at Northrop Grumman, one of the world’s largest military technology providers, joins us on this episode to help answer this question that he addresses daily. Carl shares his perspective on the impact of the DoD principles, how governments and companies need to align on the “how” of developing and using AI responsibly, and much more. ----------...
Mark Brayan (Appen): For whom is your data performing? 12.10.2022 28:52
In this episode, Mark Brayan focuses on a key ingredient for responsible AI: ethically sourced, inclusive data. Mark is the CEO and Managing director of Appen, which provides training data for thousands of machine learning and AI initiatives. Good quality data is imperative for responsible AI (garbage in, garbage out), and part of that equation is making sure that it is sourced inclusively, respon...
Krishnaram Kenthapadi (Fiddler.ai): Citizen audits are coming; are you ready? 28.09.2022 44:21
Krishnaram is the Chief Scientist of Fiddler AI, an enterprise startup building a responsible AI and Machine Learning monitoring platform. Prior to Fiddler AI, Krishnaram has served as Principal Scientist at Amazon AWS AI, on the LinkedIn AI team, and on Microsoft's AI and Ethics in Engineering and Research (AETHER) Advisory Board. In this episode, Krishanaram warns of the importance of not simply...
Dr. Edson Prestes: Can we ingrain empathy into our AI? 14.09.2022 45:31
Dr. Prestes, Professor of Computer Science at the Institute of Informatics, Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul and leader of the Phi Robotics Research Group. In this episode, Dr. Prestes shares his trailblazing work in international AI policy and standards, including the development of the first global AI ethics instrument. Dr. Prestes discusses ethics in technology and the infusion of empath...
Joe Bradley (LivePerson): How much 'rat poison' is in our AI and can AI be more "human"? 24.08.2022 52:24
Joe Bradley is the Chief Scientist at LivePerson, a leading Conversational AI company creating digital experiences that are “Curiously Human”, powering nearly a billion conversational interactions monthly in their Conversational Cloud. In this episode, Joe shares the broad lens he brings to his work in AI. He discusses the interconnectedness between AI and humanity, and his work at LivePerson to d...
Dr. Richard Benjamins (Telefonica): What are the key ingredients for a successful Responsible AI Framework? 15.06.2022 58:33
Dr. Richard Benjamins is Chief AI & Data Strategist at Telefonica, author of The myth of the algorithm and A Data-Driven Company , and co-founder of OdiseIA. In this week’s episode, Richard offers his roadmap for trustworthy AI, including his company's “aspirational” approach to AI governance, their use of an ethics committee, how they use the bottom line to reinforce their goals and other bes...
Beena Ammanath (Deloitte): What concrete steps companies can (must) take to achieve trustworthy AI 27.05.2022 51:31
Beena Ammanath is Executive Director of the Global Deloitte AI Institute, author of T rustworthy AI: A Business Guide For Navigating Trust and Ethics in AI and founder of the nonprofit to increase diversity in tech, Humans for AI. In this episode, Beena explains where organizations (and others) can begin to embed AI ethics as a part of their routine business practice, the importance for policy mak...
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