Stephen and Lori Saux
If We Knew Then - Down Syndrome Podcast
We are Stephen and Lori Saux and welcome to the If We Knew Then Podcast. We are parents of two children and one of them has Down Syndrome, Liam. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down Syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share honest and useful conversations about supports, therapies, education and society as it pertains to Down Syndrome advocacy and parenting.
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
29. Insights Into Our First COVID-19 IEP Session 16.10.2020 34:17
We just had our first Zoom IEP session since the pandemic started and we have found several new things that parents should be aware of. We also further discuss ways to prepare for these meetings and touch on questions every parent should ask their IEP team. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/10/15/29-insights-into-our-first-covid-19-iep-session/2/ Please follow...
28. A Story of Inclusion with Eleanor Baggaley – ‘Ava the Mermaid’ 08.10.2020 43:58
Our conversation with author, wife, mother of three and Down syndrome advocate, Eleanor Baggaley. We discuss inclusion and her children’s books, particularly ‘Eva the Mermaid’. Eleanor also shares about her work with the organization Positive About Down Syndrome and some of her future plans of advocacy in the community. Eleanor’s Website: https://www.eleanorbaggaley.com/shop Positive About Down S...
27. Our IEP Process - Some Things We Have Learned 01.10.2020 41:39
IEP's can be very overwhelming especially when you feel like you don't have all the information that you want to have. In this episode we share some of the things we have learned to be helpful during this sometimes stressful process and ways to advocate for your child while still keeping your peace. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/09/28/27-our-iep-process-somet...
26. PALS Programs - A Deeper Conversation About Down Syndrome 25.09.2020 32:00
Our second interview with members of the PALS Programs. We talk about how the PALS Programs is planning for future camps and some of the more personal experiences the founders of the organization have with Down syndrome. Joining us is Executive Director, Jenni Newbury Ross and her mother Robyn and brother Jason. We were also joined by Congratulations Project Associate, Grace Wahle and Communicatio...
25. A Right to Celebrate - When the Medical Profession Steals the Joy of New Parents - Rachel Mewes 18.09.2020 30:18
Our second interview with Rachel Mewes. Rachel is a contributing editor to Making Chromosomes Count, the Down syndrome community newspaper. She opens up on her not so uncommon birth story and the prejudices she found in the medical profession. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/09/17/25-a-right-to-celebrate-when-the-medical-profession-steals-the-joy-of-new-parents...
24. The Importance of Disability Inclusion in Film - Nic Novicki 11.09.2020 31:52
Comedian, actor, producer and disability advocate Nic Novicki joins us to talk about the Easterseals Disability Film Challenge and the importance of disability inclusion in film. Film Challenge Website: https://disabilityfilmchallenge.com Our 2020 EDFC entry: https://youtu.be/WiX-rt51szo All the challenge’s films on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOhZ4i5Tnk3iq44Tzn03rBMOcr0bqF...
23. Raised by a Father with Down Syndrome - Our Community Conversation with Sader Issa 04.09.2020 45:49
Our enlightening and inspiring interview with Sader Issa. As parents we are always told what our children will never do. What if those limits were not part of the conversation? Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/09/03/23-raised-by-a-father-with-down-syndrome-our-interview-with-sadar-issa/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on...
22. A Meditation Gift from Paul Denniston - 30 Minute Yoga Nidra Guided Meditation 27.08.2020 35:09
Paul Denniston has gifted us a 30 minute Yoga Nidra Guided Meditation. Enjoy. Paul’s Website: https://griefyoga.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/08/27/22-a-meditation-gift-from-paul-denniston/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www. IfWeKnewThen.com to s...
21. A Conversation About Healing and Self Care with Paul Denniston 27.08.2020 41:17
Paul Denniston discusses how we can all heal through meditation and his Grief Yoga. Paul’s Website: https://griefyoga.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/08/20/21-a-conversation-about-healing-and-self-care-with-paul-denniston/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website http...
20. A New School Year: COVID-19, IEPs and Supports - Georgianna Junco-Kelman 12.08.2020 1:22:32
Another informative talk with attorney Georgianna Junco-Kelman. What do parents need to know heading into a new school year amidst COVID-19? Georgianna's Website: http://www.losangelesspecialedattorney.com CA Special Education Guidelines for COVID-19: https://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/he/hn/specialedcovid19guidance.asp Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/08/11/20-a-ne...
19. PALS Programs - Congratulations Project 07.08.2020 32:44
Our interview with members of the PALS Programs. We talk about the organization and specifically their Congratulations Project. Joining us is Co-founder and Executive Director, Jenni Newbury Ross and her mother and brother, Robyn and Jason. We were also joined by Congratulations Project Associate, Grace Wahle and Communications Coordinator, Colton Davies. Congratulations Project: https://www.congr...
18. Project Understood - Part 2 - Two Perspectives of Down Syndrome - Ed Casagrande and Matt MacNeil 23.07.2020 28:22
Our second interview with Ed Casagrande and Matt MacNeil from the Canadian Down Syndrome Society concerning their collaboration with Google AI to create a database that can help train Google’s speech recognition technology to better understand people with Down syndrome. Donate your voice at: https://projectunderstood.ca CDSS "Down Syndrome Answers" Initiative: https://cdss.ca/down-syndrome-answers...
17. Creating a Positive Dental Health Relationship - Dr. Jill Lasky 16.07.2020 28:22
Dr. Jill Lasky discusses the importance of Pediatric Dentistry, how to introduce dental care and specifics pertaining to the Down Syndrome community. Lasky Pediatric Dental Group: https://www.laskypediatricdental.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/07/16/17-creating-a-positive-dental-health-relationship-dr-jill-lasky/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthen...
16. Pushing The Limits - Chris Nikic’s Road To IRONMAN 09.07.2020 31:13
Interview with Chris Nikic and his parents, Nik and Patty. Chris is the first person with Down syndrome to complete a half IRONMAN and is training to attempt the full 140.6 mile course in November. We discuss how people with Down Syndrome can do more than ever expected if given the right tools and time. Chris's Website: https://chrisnikic.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.word...
15. Project Understood - Part 1 - Our Community Conversation with Ed Casagrande and Matt MacNeil 02.07.2020 34:06
Interview with Ed Casagrande and Matt MacNeil from the Canadian Down Syndrome Society concerning their collaboration with Google AI to create a database that can help train Google’s speech recognition technology to better understand people with Down syndrome. Donate your voice at: https://projectunderstood.ca Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/06/30/15-project-und...
14. An Honest Community Conversation with Julie Picot 25.06.2020 33:12
Our second interview with Julie Picot, a mother of a child with Down Syndrome, and some of the challenges she has faced regarding stereotypes and preconceived notions of her child's disability. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/06/24/14-an-honest-conversation-interview-with-julie-picot/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on ou...
13. Early Intervention - At Home Tools and Supports - Caroline Bencze-Fernandez 18.06.2020 31:20
Interview with Child Development Specialist, Caroline Bencze-Fernandez. In this second appearance on the podcast, Caroline dives a little deeper into the aspects of Early Intervention, what tools parents can use at home and how therapies for children with Down Syndrome have changed over the years. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/06/17/13-early-intervention-at-h...
12. Our Interview with Melissa Kynoch - Part 2 11.06.2020 36:12
An interview with Melissa Kynoch, known by many for being on the BBC documentary LIFE AND BIRTH along with her sons Dei and Bertie. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/06/11/12-our-interview-with-melissa-kynoch-part-2/2/ BBC 'Life and Birth: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000j6v0/life-and-birth-series-1-episode-4 Wouldn’t Change A Thing:Book- https://www...
11. The Responsibility and Power of Words on Social Media - Rachel Mewes 03.06.2020 27:30
Our Interview with Rachel Mewes to discuss her interactions with Twitter and their reluctance to combat hate speech toward people with Down Syndrome. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/06/02/11-the-responsibility-and-power-of-words-on-social-media-interview-with-rachel-mewes/2/ Making Chromosomes Count: http://makingchromosomescount.co.uk Making Chromosomes C...
10. Our Interview with Melissa Kynoch - Part 1 29.05.2020 40:42
An interview with Melissa Kynoch, known by many for being on the BBC documentary LIFE AND BIRTH along with her sons Dei and Bertie. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/05/27/10-our-interview-with-melissa-kynoch-part-1/2/ BBC 'Life and Birth: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000j6v0/life-and-birth-series-1-episode-4 Makaton: https://wetalkmakaton.org ...
9. Sibling Advocacy - Interview with Sophia Saux 22.05.2020 32:09
An interview with our daughter Sophia to discuss her experiences of having a brother with Down Syndrome. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/05/21/9-sibling-advocacy-interview-with-sophia-saux/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www. IfWeKnewThen.com to send us...
8. Early Intervention - Interview with Caroline Bencze-Fernandez 15.05.2020 26:20
Interview with Child Development Specialist, Caroline Bencze-Fernandez. She explains the importance of Early Intervention, how therapies have changed throughout her 30 year career and what parents should know. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/05/14/8-early-intervention-interview-with-caroline-bencze-fernandez/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD y...
7. Prenatal Care and Advocacy - Interview with Julie Picot 08.05.2020 32:59
Interview with Julie Picot discussing her birth story, some of the misinformation she encountered and how she dealt with the post diagnosis fears. Full Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/05/05/7-prenatal-care-and-advocacy-interview-with-julie-picot/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or vi...
6. Managing The Stresses - The Emotional Parts of Special Needs Parenting 01.05.2020 26:14
This episode focuses on a sometimes challenging aspect of parenting a child with Down Syndrome. The emotional part of dealing with IEPs, assessments and evaluations that seem to happen right around our children's birthday celebrations. We discuss how we managed these stresses and how we maybe would have done some things differently. Full Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress...
5. Preparing For Your IEP - What We Wish We Knew Then 24.04.2020 29:34
In this episode we discuss preparations and expectations of IEP meetings, what we wish we would have known years ago and the advantages of having an advocate or attorney by your side. Full Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/04/24/5-preparing-for-your-iep/3/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD...
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