Stephen and Lori Saux
If We Knew Then - Down Syndrome Podcast
We are Stephen and Lori Saux and welcome to the If We Knew Then Podcast. We are parents of two children and one of them has Down Syndrome, Liam. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down Syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share honest and useful conversations about supports, therapies, education and society as it pertains to Down Syndrome advocacy and parenting.
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Stephen and Lori Saux
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
54. Mother (noun): An Ultimate Example of Its Kind - Our Mother’s Day Message 06.05.2021 25:02
Happy Mother’s Day! Sunday, May 9, 2021 is Mother’s Day for our Canadian, Australian & American listeners. Mothering Sunday in the UK was back in March and in Mexico, Mothers are celebrated every year on May 10th. Wherever you are, whomever you are and however you celebrate… this episode is for all the Mothers of the world. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/...
53. Discussing Infertility and a Down Syndrome Diagnosis with Natalie Spiteri 30.04.2021 49:53
In this episode, Physical Therapist, Natalie Spiteri shares her personal journey through infertility, the impact of a diagnosis of Down syndrome and the yearning for the life she imagined beyond what she was told. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/04/29/53-discussing-infertility-and-a-down-syndrome-diagnosis-with-natalie-spiteri/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @if...
52. A Community Conversation with Megyn Price: Celebrating Uncle Bill 23.04.2021 1:11:45
This week we are joined by actress Megyn Price to discuss inclusion, the importance of encouraging others to express their uniqueness and how her Uncle, who had Down syndrome, affected her family in a positive way. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/04/22/52-a-conversation-with-megyn-price-celebrating-uncle-bill/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you...
51. Eleven Years With Liam: Celebrating Another Trip Around The Sun 16.04.2021 55:18
This year Liam turned 11 and in this episode we reflect where we started, what we've learned and where we are. Let's celebrate... always celebrate. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/04/16/51-eleven-years-with-liam-celebrating-another-trip-around-the-sun/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or...
50. Acknowledging and Dismantling Fear’s Presence In Our Lives: An Interview with Karen Maezen Miller 08.04.2021 1:10:34
Another beautiful conversation with Zen Buddhist Priest Karen Maezen Miller. We all have fears. What if we could see what is at the root of these fears, acknowledge and deconstruct them and then continue forward free from those fears. Her books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Karen-Maezen-Miller/e/B001JP2RQ0/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1 Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpres...
49. Discussing Health and Inclusion with Pediatrician Dr. Mona Patel Gera 26.03.2021 1:18:19
An enlightening conversation with Dr. Mona Patel Gera to answer the questions parents of children with Down syndrome often have. Health Supervision Guidelines: https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/developmental-disabilities/Documents/Health_Care_Information_for_Families_of_Children_with_Down_Syndrome.pdf Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/20...
48. World Down Syndrome Day: The Path To Finding Our Celebration 19.03.2021 23:42
March 21st is World Down Syndrome Day and we discuss our personal journey to find our celebration and what it means to us. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/03/16/48-world-down-syndrome-day-the-path-to-finding-our-celebration/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://w...
47. What Do We Do When Faced with Challenges and Negativity? An Interview with Karen Maezen Miller 11.03.2021 58:02
As parents, we all find ourselves dealing with confusing emotions and challenges from time to time. In this conversation, Zen Buddhist Priest Karen Maezen Miller, gives us some guidance to help us deal with the negative. Her books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Karen-Maezen-Miller/e/B001JP2RQ0/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1 Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/0...
46. Coming Down The Mountain: Our Interview with Julie Anne Robinson 05.03.2021 35:40
Our conversation with Executive Producer and Director of ‘Bridgerton’, Julie Anne Robinson about the film ‘Coming Down The Mountain’ and the importance of inclusion in media. ‘Coming Down The Mountain’ on Prime Video: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B082P67X6D/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r Frostig School: https://frostigschool.org Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/20...
45. Speech Therapy with Kerri Wake of McRory Pediatrics 25.02.2021 1:10:30
Speech Pathologist, Kerri Wake, joins us to talk about communication, supportive tools parents can provide their children and the pathways to receiving speech therapy in the school setting. The McRory Pediatrics Website: https://www.mcrorypediatrics.com The Hanen Centre: http://www.hanen.org/Home.aspx Early Milestone List: https://speechhearing.columbian.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs1996/f/download...
44. Looking Back At A Decade: Liam Turns 10 19.02.2021 35:02
Stephen and Lori discuss the process of acceptance, the importance of communication and how to take time for yourself. Originally set for release a year ago, this episode celebrates Liam's 10th birthday and all the accomplishments and lessons learned over a wonderful decade. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/02/18/44-looking-back-at-a-decade-liam-turns-10/2/ Plea...
43. Occupational Therapy with Erin Stanford of McRory Pediatrics - Part 2 11.02.2021 56:53
Occupational Therapist, Erin Stanford from McRory Pediatrics, visits us again for Part 2 of our OT discussion. This week we concentrate on behavior and what information parents should have to provide the best supports for their child. The McRory Pediatrics Website: https://www.mcrorypediatrics.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/02/08/43-occupational-therapy-er...
42. Occupational Therapy with Erin Stanford of McRory Pediatrics - Part 1 05.02.2021 58:11
Occupational Therapist at McRory Pediatrics, Erin Stanford, visits us to discuss at home and at school OT and helps us more clearly define the overlap of this therapy with Physical Therapy, Speech and Behavior Therapies. The McRory Pediatrics Website: https://www.mcrorypediatrics.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/02/04/42-occupational-therapy-erin-stanford-of...
41. Behavior: A Conversation with Kyle Davis of McRory Pediatrics 29.01.2021 1:23:53
Clinical Supervisor of Behavioral Services at McRoryPediatrics, Kyle Davis, visits us to discuss behavioral issues at home and at school. He also answers questions about when, how and why behaviors need to be addressed. The McRory Pediatrics Website: https://www.mcrorypediatrics.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/01/28/41-behavior-a-conversation-with-kyle-davi...
40. Discussing Supports with Nikki McRory of McRory Pediatrics 22.01.2021 43:02
Nikki McRory is the founder of McRory Pediatrics and in this episode Nikki gives us an insightful look at the different therapies that can help support your child in reaching their potential. The McRory Pediatrics Website: https://www.mcrorypediatrics.com The Hanen Centre: http://www.hanen.org/ Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/01/21/40-discussing-supports-with-n...
39. Our Community Conversation with Steven Gustafson of 10,000 Maniacs 16.01.2021 58:23
Steven Gustafson is a founding member and bassist of the band 10,000 Maniacs. His sister, Cathy, had Down syndrome and we got a chance to discuss with him the impact she had on his life and the lives around her. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/01/15/39-our-interview-with-steven-gustafson-from-10000-maniacs/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can...
38. Moving Into A New Year One Moment At A Time 07.01.2021 24:44
In this episode Stephen and Lori discuss facing some of the difficulties of 2020 and how to move onto a fresh new year in a positive way. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2021/01/06/38-moving-into-a-new-year-one-moment-at-a-time/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://...
37. Our Community’s Response To Emmerdale’s Negative Storyline About Down Syndrome - Cristina Bowman 06.12.2020 40:16
In this episode we talk with Cristina Bowman of Diff-Ability about the British soap opera Emmerdale and it’s recent storyline which depicts a couple having an abortion because their baby has Down syndrome. Petition against Emmerdale: https://www.change.org/p/itv-bin-emmerdale-s-prejudiced-storyline-about-down-s-syndrome?recruited_by_id=2f3349b0-f96d-11e5-80fd-c1f380c9ade0 DIff-Ability: https://...
36. Giving Everyone Access to a Down Syndrome Specialty Clinic with DSC2U - Dr. Brian Skotko 25.11.2020 46:05
We are thankful to have Dr. Brian Skotko on today’s episode. Dr. Brian is the director of the Down Syndrome Program at Massachusetts General Hospital, a Board-certified medical geneticist and has dedicated his professional energies toward children with cognitive and developmental disabilities. Today we talk about his new online clinic, DSC2U, the importance of inclusion and how we as a community...
35. Building a Realistic Approach to a Healthy Dental Routine - Dr. Jill Lasky 20.11.2020 26:06
In our second interview with Dr. Jill we discuss the methods and tools for parents who want to support their children in making good dental health habits. Lasky Pediatric Dental Group: https://www.laskypediatricdental.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/11/19/35-creating-a-realistic-approach-to-a-healthy-dental-routine-dr-jill-lasky/2/ Please follow us on Twi...
34. How To Use The Summertime To Your Advantage 16.11.2020 30:49
The summer is a time to play and relax but if you use it as a time to front load for the coming school year, as well, it can be that academic advantage you have been looking for. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/11/16/34-how-to-use-the-summertime-to-your-advantage/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifwekn...
33. Our Congratulations Message to New Parents 14.11.2020 44:03
We originally created this podcast to support parents of children with Down syndrome and this episode is directed specifically to new parents who have just recently received their child’s diagnosis. Our message is of hope and possibility in a world which often offers very little. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/11/13/33-our-congratulations-message-to-new-parent...
32. Changing Our World - Chris Nikic’s 1% Philosophy 05.11.2020 47:35
Chris joins us again with his parents, Nik and Patty to discuss how they have changed their approach to learning and how that has prepared Chris to do things no person with Down syndrome has ever done before. Chris’s Website: https://chrisnikic.com Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/11/05/32-changing-our-world-chris-nikics-1-philosophy/2/ Please follow us on T...
31. Using The Arts To Tell Your Story - A Conversation with Nic Novicki 30.10.2020 31:32
Nic joins us again to talk about the Easterseals Disability Film Challenge and letting your voice be heard through the arts. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/10/29/31-using-the-arts-to-tell-your-story-a-conversation-with-nic-novicki/2/ The Easterseals Disability Film Challenge: https://disabilityfilmchallenge.com Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD...
30. Down Syndrome Awareness Month: Working Together To Change Perceptions 22.10.2020 37:11
In honor of Down Syndrome Awareness Month we discuss our part, as a community, in changing the perceptions of Down syndrome through our thoughts and words. We also look back on some lessons we have learned from past guests. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2020/10/22/30-down-syndrome-awareness-month-working-together-to-change-perceptions/2/ Please follow us on Twit...
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