Stephen and Lori Saux

If We Knew Then - Down Syndrome Podcast

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We are Stephen and Lori Saux and welcome to the If We Knew Then Podcast. We are parents of two children and one of them has Down Syndrome, Liam. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down Syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share honest and useful conversations about supports, therapies, education and society as it pertains to Down Syndrome advocacy and parenting.

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Stephen and Lori Saux

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Kids

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Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

129. Michael Sanford: An Advocate for Diverse Casting in Hollywood - Part 1 23.01.2023

This is a two part interview with Hollywood casting director Michael Sanford about the importance of inclusion in everyone's life and the responsibility the film and television industry has to uphold a fabric of diversity that is reflective of our global society. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/01/22/129-michael-sanford-an-advocate-for-diverse-casting-in-hollyw...

128. The Next Generation of Advocacy 17.01.2023

In this episode we discuss the hope we have for the future and the positive changes we see in the next generation of Down syndrome advocates. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/01/16/128-the-next-generation-of-advocacy/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www. IfWe...

127. Revisiting A Loving Kindness Meditation with Paul Denniston 08.01.2023

We’ve talked about self-care on this podcast and the importance of parents and caregivers to find the time to take care of themselves. We are so grateful that Paul Denniston has once again gifted us, and our listeners, with a guided meditation. This time Paul will guide us through a wonderful Loving Kindness Meditation to help us with the many struggles we can face when we so often put others befo...

126. Happy New Year: Revisiting The Practice of The Beginner’s Mind with Maezen Miller 31.12.2022

Happy New Year! We hope you are all having a wonderfully relaxing and safe holiday. Today in the spirit of the new year, we revisit an interview we had with Karen Maezen Miller about the practice of The Beginner’s Mind. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/12/31/126-happy-new-year-revisiting-the-practice-of-the-beginners-mind-with-maezen-miller/2/ Please follow us o...

125. A Season of Hope 20.12.2022

In this episode we talk about hope. Losing hope when challenges become overwhelming and finding it again on the other side.   Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/12/19/125-a-season-of-hope-down-syndrome-advocacy/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www. IfWeKnewThen...

124. Revisiting with Caroline Bencze-Fernandez Part 2: At Home Tools and Supports 28.11.2022

Because we get so many questions from new parents, we wanted to revisit a couple of our very early episodes. In this Part 2 we re-air Caroline’s second appearance on the podcast where she dives a little deeper into the aspects of Early Intervention, what tools parents can use at home and how therapies for children with Down syndrome have changed over the years. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknew...

123. Revisiting with Caroline Bencze-Fernandez Part 1: Early Intervention 21.11.2022

Because we get so many questions from new parents, we wanted to revisit a couple of our very early episodes. In this Part 1 we re-air an extremely informative interview with Child Development Specialist, Caroline Bencze-Fernandez where she explains the importance of Early Intervention, how therapies have changed throughout her 30 year career and what parents should know. Episode Transcript: https:...

122. Happy Anniversary: Things We’ve Learned Over 18 Years 08.11.2022

It’s our wedding anniversary and we take a minute to reflect on the past 18 years. Happy Anniversary! Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/11/07/122-our-anniversary-episode/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://www. IfWeKnewThen.com to send us an email with questions an...

121. Down Syndrome Awareness Month 2022 29.10.2022

In this episode we discuss our journey with awareness. We explore how we are learning to cultivate what awareness means in our lives, the way in which awareness has changed over the years and its impact on our advocacy. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/10/28/121-down-syndrome-awareness-month-2022/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a...

120. The Secret Episode - Living For The Moments 22.10.2022

Stephen recorded a solo episode this week, unbeknownst to the family, to express some things that have been on his mind and as a nice surprise to Lori and the kids whenever they come across it. It’s kind of a time capsule episode focused on this present moment and how there is nothing as important as right now. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/10/21/120-the-secr...

119. Walking The Walk, Breaking Down Stereotypes - with Dr. Eric Rubenstein and Kaethe Sigelko 15.10.2022

This week we talked to Dr. Eric Rubenstein and one of his co-researchers, Kaethe Sigelko to discuss self advocacy and the importance of including people with Down syndrome in shaping our community. For everything they ever told you your child would not or could not do - sometimes it takes an example of what is possible to remember who we are and that every child’s life is one of possibility. Eric’...

118. The Best We’ve Got: The Carl Erskine Story with Ted Green 08.10.2022

Documentarian, Ted Green visits with us to discuss his most recent film “The Best We’ve Got: The Carl Erskine Story”.  As a teammate and close friend of Jackie Robinson and then as the father of a person with Down syndrome, Carl played a pioneering role in two human-rights movements. Our guest, Ted Green switched to filmmaking in 2010 after 20 years as a newspaper journalist, and since then he has...

117. Having The Patience To Be Where You Are - A Conversation with Karen Maezen Miller 01.10.2022

In this week's episode we are joined by Zen Buddhist Priest, Maezen Miller. We discuss having patience and letting go in order for it to all unfold. Believing and having patience can enable our children to be who they are, go where they go and do what they do, to become exactly who they are. Karen Maezen Miller: https://karenmaezenmiller.com Maezen’s Book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Karen-Ma...

116. Mother Asana: “The Art and Voice of Autism” with Gina Uricchio 24.09.2022

Mother Asana merges the focus of Ally’s art and expression with Gina’s yoga practice and meditation insights. Gina is a devotee to her Spiritual Practice for over 20 years influenced by many practitioners & styles. Her trainings landed her teaching Slow Flow Yoga, YOGA for Cancer & Mindfulness for the Special Parent. Creating Connection is the cornerstone to her parenting & personal st...

115. Functional Nutrition with Dr. Vaish Sarathy 10.09.2022

Vaish is a Functional Nutrition Practitioner and Science Educator. She is the founder of   Functional Nutrition for Kids , and  Plum Pudding Chemistry , both practices designed to optimize the learning potential of kids with Down Syndrome and/or Autism using both Functional Medicine and Non-Linear Education Principles. Website: https://functionalnutritionforkids.com Constipation Tool Kit: https://...

114. Liam Goes To Middle School: Leaving The Past Behind Us 03.09.2022

We have learned a lot, some harsh realities and beautiful truths. We now move forward with eyes wide open, ready to learn from where we have been, into the unknown of middle school. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/09/02/114-liam-starts-middle-school/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or v...

113. Student Led IEPs to Determine Ones Own Path of Self-Advocacy with Ellen Coulston 20.08.2022

The discussion on Self Determination in episode 83,  developed into an examination of the term “Self Determination” and what it means in the scope of determining ones self and ones path.  In this episode with Ellen Coulston we discuss Self Determination as a tool to promote independence, confidence and participation by student led IEP planning, making that student a part of the dialogue instead of...

112. Seeing The Whole Child: Our Conversation with Licensed Child Psychologist Dr. Beverly Celotta 13.08.2022

In this conversation we sit down with Dr. Beverly Celotta. Bev is a retired Licensed Child Psychologist who shares her knowledge about how to set all children up for success. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/08/11/112-dr-beverly-celotta/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our websi...

111. Kicking Down Barriers: Our Conversation with College Kicker Caden Cox 05.08.2022

In this episode we sit down with Caden Cox and his parents, Mari and Kevin, to talk about their history making and game changing journey to inclusion. Caden is the first person with Down syndrome to play as well as score in a NCAA/NJCCA College football game. Caden’s JakeMax Collection: https://www.jakemax.com/collections/cadens-collection 'NEVER, is not in My Vocabulary' College Paper: https://ww...

110. The Future of Research and the Hope on the Horizon with Eric Rubenstein 30.07.2022

This week we have a wonderful conversation with Dr. Eric Rubenstein, an Assistant Professor in the Department of Epidemiology at Boston University. We discuss equality and inclusion in research as it pertains to Down syndrome.  Eric’s Website: https://sites.bu.edu/rubenstein/ Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/07/29/110-the-future-of-research-and-the-hope-on-the-h...

109. Parenting Is Parenting: A Conversation with Paul and Kerry Daugherty 23.07.2022

Today we have an open and candid conversation with the author of ‘An Uncomplicated Life’ Paul Daugherty and his wife Kerry about their approach to early education, college, dating, sex, marriage and lots of other things we are told our kids won’t do. ‘An Uncomplicated Life’ is a book we wish we would have found earlier with the beautiful message of “expecting instead of accepting”. Whether you hav...

108. Playground of Empathy and Empathable with Micah Kessel 16.07.2022

In this episode we find a way to inclusion through empathy. Our conversation with Micah Kessel was an empowering and insightful discussion offering ways to focus our advocacy and to come from a more nurturing and loving place. Micah is the creator of Empathable and Playground of Empathy. These organizations work nationally with world-renowned academics to bridge science, technology, and art to amp...

107. Graduating Elementary School: A Culmination of What We Learned 09.07.2022

Liam graduated from elementary school, on curriculum, in an inclusive classroom with his peers. We reflect on the moments that led to his accomplishment and what we could have done better if we knew then. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2022/07/07/107-graduating-elementary-school-a-culmination-of-what-we-learned/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you ca...

106. Zeno Mountain Farm: Telling Stories of Diversity and Inclusion - Ila Halby 25.06.2022

It was so nice spending some time with founder Ila Halby to talk about the Zeno Mountain Farm Camps, their feature film “Best Summer Ever” and the power of representation in film. Whether used as a noun or a verb, Zeno stands for inclusion. Zeno’s Website: https://zenomountainfarm.org Zeno’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/zenomountainfarm/ Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress...

105. The Improvaneer Method: Using Improvisation To Build Skills and Change Perceptions - An interview with Rob Snow 18.06.2022

In this episode we are joined by Rob Snow, the founder of The Improvaneer Method. The Improvaneer Method uses improvisation to build skills that will greatly improve social, workplace and lifetime opportunities in those with developmental disabilities. With both in-person and online classes, it is widely assessable and has been a real game changer for many people in our community. We also talk bri...

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