Stephen and Lori Saux
If We Knew Then - Down Syndrome Podcast
We are Stephen and Lori Saux and welcome to the If We Knew Then Podcast. We are parents of two children and one of them has Down Syndrome, Liam. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down Syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share honest and useful conversations about supports, therapies, education and society as it pertains to Down Syndrome advocacy and parenting.
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Stephen and Lori Saux
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
179. Forget Me Not: Inclusion in the Classroom Documentary - Hilda & Olivier Bernier 10.02.2025 58:06
Today we are joined by Hilda and Olivier, who are documentarians of a fantastic film “Forget Me Not”. This film tells the story of our children’s fight for an equal education and raises the question of inclusion versus segregation. It’s a documentary that is so important to making changes in the lives of individuals with Down syndrome. Website: https://forgetmenotdocumentary.com Streaming FREE On...
178. The 2025 DSDN Rockin' Dad Retreat with Ben Hughes 03.02.2025 51:31
In July 2025, DSDN will host their annual Rockin' Dad Retreat for fathers of children with Down Syndrome to gather from across the country. We are joined again by Ben Hughes to give us all the details of this year’s event and also an update on his own journey. Retreat Details - WHEN: July 11-12, 2025, WHERE: Hilton San Diego Gaslamp Quarter, San Diego, CA Registration info: https://www.dsdiagnosis...
177. Showing Up For The Challenges - Karen Maezen Miller 27.01.2025 1:09:06
Lori recorded this episode in October but what is very apparent is how challenges and the unknown are an everyday thing that helps tell our stories, In this episode Maezen talks about finding our space and our 'me' time. Karen Maezen Miller’s Website: https://karenmaezenmiller.com Maezen’s books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Karen-Maezen-Miller/e/B001JP2RQ0/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1 Episod...
176. Revisiting 10,000 Maniacs Founding Member Steven Gustafson 20.07.2024 58:23
Steven Gustafson is a founding member and bassist of the band 10,000 Maniacs. His sister, Cathy, had Down syndrome and we got a chance to discuss with him the impact she had on his life and the lives around her. Today we revisit that interview to share this sibling love story. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2025/01/27/176-revisiting-10000-maniacs-founding-member-st...
175. Communicating Our Stories with Sid and Vaish Sarathy 17.06.2024 1:16:28
This week we revisit our conversation with Sid and Vaish Sarathy. Sid, who has the duel diagnoses of autism and Down syndrome. Although he is non-Speaking, Sid is a poet with two published books. Dr. Vaish Sarathy is a functional nutrition practitioner and science educator. She is the founder of Functional Nutrition for Kids and Plum Pudding Chemistry, both practices designed to optimize the learn...
174. Advocating For Speech Therapy - Julie Picot 10.06.2024 48:28
This week we once again sit down with Julie Picot but this time we are briefly joined by her daughter Elyse. We take a deep dive on the speech and reading journey in our community and discuss different ways to advocate for our children. Teach Your Child To Read in 100 Easy Lessons: https://a.co/d/3CEtpLY Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/06/09/174-advocating-for-...
173. The Endless Possibilities of People with Down Syndrome: Revisiting Jake Pratt 27.05.2024 1:03:30
This week we revisit our interview with Jake Pratt, an inspiring young man from Vestavia Hills, Alabama who has never let expectations define him. From scoring a touchdown on his high school football team, to graduating from the Clemson LIFE program, to working two jobs (including his dream role at UPS), Jake continues to show the world what true inclusion and opportunity look like. Alongside his...
172. Happy Mothers Day: We Celebrate You 12.05.2024 25:05
Today we celebrate all the powerful mothers who give so much to their children day in and day out. Remember how strong you are. The world runs on that power and we thank you. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/05/11/172-happy-mothers-day-we-celebrate-you/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or...
171. Alzheimer’s Disease In People with Down Syndrome - Dr. Elizabeth Head 29.04.2024 45:22
This week we had the privilege to talk to Dr. Elizabeth Head, Professor and Vice Chair for research at the University of California, Irvine in the department of Pathology. Dr. Head has published more than 150 peer reviewed papers and has dedicated over 20 years to the study of aging and Alzheimer’s disease with a focus on people with Down syndrome. Head Lab: https://sites.mind.uci.edu/headlab/ ABC...
170. Celebrating The Life of Carl Erskine with Ted Green 21.04.2024 1:02:25
The world lost pioneering Down syndrome advocate Carl Erskine on April 16, 2024, at the age of 97. Carl and his wife Betty, were involved deeply with the Special Olympics and charities which aimed at helping people with developmental disabilities such as his son Jimmy. Carl Erskine was a MLB All-Star, World Series Champion, ally of Jackie Robinson and the last surviving member of the “Boys of Summ...
169. The Annual DSDN Retreats with Ben Hughes 15.04.2024 59:06
This week we are fortunate to have Ben Hughes back on the podcast to discuss the Down Syndrome Diagnosis Network’s (DSDN) annual “Rockin’ Retreats” that offer our community the connection and respite caregivers truly need. Retreat information page: https://www.dsdiagnosisnetwork.org/dsdn-retreats Dad's retreat registration page: https://form.jotform.com/DSDN/2024-rockin-dad-retreat Mom's retreat...
168. Liam's 14th Birthday: Sharing Some Insight 08.03.2024 1:05:45
Our son turned 14 last weekend and in this episode we reflect on the joys, challenges and growth we've experienced together on this journey with Liam. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/03/09/168-liams-14th-birthday-sharing-some-insight/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website...
167. A Discussion About Using The R-Word with Lynette Louise 26.02.2024 59:26
This week we revisit our interview with Lynette Louise who is board certified in Neurofeedback. We were very interested in the science of Neurofeedback but early on in the conversation we moved to a serious discussion about the use of the r-word and the reasons why Lynette uses it. This episode may feel a bit intense for many of you and we understand why, but we highly recommend listening all the...
166. Finding The Right Supports Without Shame - Julie Picot 19.02.2024 1:03:42
This week we have the wonderful Julie Picot back on the show to discuss her experience transitioning her daughter, Elyse from TK to Kindergarten. We also touch upon how very often parents feel shame when guiding their school aged children out of diapers. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/02/17/166-finding-the-right-supports-without-shame-with-julie-picot/2/ Pleas...
165. Picking The Right Pediatrician with Dr. Ilona Kleiner 29.01.2024 58:13
Dr. Ilona Kleiner has been both our children's pediatrician since birth. Today we discuss with her the importance of always seeing the whole child and how her care for Liam really isn't any different than that of a typical child. Dr. Kleiner's Bio: https://www.pamgdocs.com/copy-of-about-our-doctors-1 Recommend books: What’s Going on Down There? by Karen Gravelle What’s Happening to My Body by Lyn...
164. Charlotte and Riley: Not Taking No For An Answer 22.01.2024 48:42
In this episode, we discuss Charlotte Fien’s path to advocacy, breaking down the barriers of education, the love story between her and her husband Riley, and how her infectious can-do attitude has influenced him to break down barriers in his own life. It is the story of two humans creating the life they want to live and never taking no for an answer. Charlotte & Riley Forever FB Page: https://...
163. Revisiting Patience In The New Year with Maezen Miller 15.01.2024 55:50
Happy Martin Luther King Day! We start this new year by revisiting with our friend, Zen Buddhist Priest, Maezen Miller. We discuss having patience and letting go in order for it to all unfold. Believing and having patience can enable our children to be who they are, go where they go and do what they do, to become exactly who they are. Karen Maezen Miller: https://karenmaezenmiller.com Maezen’s Boo...
162. Living In The Moment and Taking the Time to Reflect On Life 23.10.2023 8:20
Follow Stephen while he unexpectedly flies back to Louisiana due to his mother’s illness. He reflects on the importance of experiencing all of life’s moments and truly being present. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/10/22/162-living-in-the-moment/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit...
161. Down Syndrome Awareness Month 2023: Bringing Awareness to Our Community’s Potential 16.10.2023 30:43
October is Down Syndrome Awareness Month and in this episode, Stephen and Lori discuss another angle in your next Awareness Campaign. Some of the most important people to make aware of our community's potential are educational professionals. We as parents can advocate but it just might be our children who change the minds of those in charge of their education. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewt...
160. The Inclusive Hub: A Gym For People of All Abilities with Liam Starkey 09.10.2023 55:17
Joining us today is Liam Starkey from The Inclusive Hub. The Hub was started in 2016 helping small groups of Autistic children around Liverpool, England take part in non-contact boxing and fitness sessions. It has now expanded and continues to empower people of all ages and abilities through exercise. Website: www.theinclusivehub.co.uk Order a tee shirt: transalpino.co.uk Twitter: https://twitter...
159. DSALA and DSC2U: Supporting Our Spanish-Speaking Community 02.10.2023 46:03
Today we are joined by Sandra Baker from the Down Syndrome Association of Los Angeles (DSALA) and Dr. Brian Skotko from the Down Syndrome Clinic To You (DSC2U) to discuss their collaboration in supporting Spanish-Speaking families that have a member with Down syndrome. DSC2U: www. DSC2U.org DSALA: www. DSALA.org DSALA Contact: (818) 786-0001 info@DSALA.org NOTES FROM DR. SKOTKO: We have written...
158. Best Buddies with Katelyn Quintero 25.09.2023 1:05:38
This week we were joined by Katelyn Quintero from Best Buddies International, which is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization dedicated to establishing a global volunteer movement that creates opportunities for one-to-one friendships, integrated employment, leadership development, and inclusive living for individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Website: www.bestbuddies.org Champ...
157. Ruby’s Rainbow with Liz Plachta 18.09.2023 1:02:14
We had such fun talking to Liz Plachta, the founder of Ruby’s Rainbow! Ruby’s Rainbow grants scholarships to students with Down syndrome who are seeking post-secondary education, including enrichment or vocational classes, and helping them achieve their dreams of higher education while spreading awareness of their capabilities and general awesomeness. Ruby’s Rainbow: www.rubysrainbow.org WDSD Ple...
156. GiGi’s Playhouse with Nancy Gianni 11.09.2023 1:15:43
Today, we are joined by Nancy Gianni to talk about her foundation, GiGi’s Playhouse, which provides FREE, life-changing therapeutic, educational, and career training programs for 30,000+ individuals of all ages, everyday. GiGi’s Playhouse empowers families by maximizing opportunities for daily achievement and lasting acceptance and in turn, showing the world what individuals with Down syndrome are...
155. Using Your IEP to Make the Most of Middle School 04.09.2023 58:59
In this episode we give an update on our son Liam, a 13-year old in middle school, and discuss how far he has come, what supports have helped us navigate his transitions into middle school and how we are helping him find the independence every teen wants to cultivate. Citizen's Of The World Middle School: https://www.cwcsilverlake.org Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.co...
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