Husband in Law

We are talking about TWO mysteries today... Have you seen the mystery man hanging out with Steve? Well today Steve is opening up about it. We dive into dating, how it is to date when you have a podcast, and what it looks like when I, Jessica, meet someone who is important to Steve. We are also sharing a story that might get us into a little trouble. Please don't tell us! But for real... 😅 Lit...

I am getting a divorce. I am pretty sure we have all heard these words from a friend or loved one. But what do you do when you hear this?! How do you react? What help can you offer? What does someone doing through a divorce need from you? This week on our Dear Listener Episode we dive into what to do when someone you love is getting a divorce because who doesn't know someone going through a di...

Three of Jessica's favorite men in one room... What could go wrong?! 😅 You are about to find out! Ever wondered how it would feel to be the parent of someone going through a divorce. We talk about what it was like to have your daughter calling and telling my parents are getting divorced. What it was like to talk to Steve after Jessica and Steve separated. We lay out some of the things that wo...

Okay maybe these stories aren't scary for you but they were scary for us because sometimes revisiting past experiences can be scary! This week we are telling untold stories from when we got divorced. And when I say we, I am talking about when Matt and Ann got divorced and when Steve and I got divorced. Don't worry Matt and I are still going strong. 💪🏼 We ask Matt some hard questions abou...

Who has a teen driver in the house?! We do! And this week we talk about all the things teenager-related. (How did we get here?! 😅) Other topics include: ✨Matt's thoughts on Elder Holland's address to the BYU Staff (You can find Steve's and Jessica's response on IGTV.) ✨Jessica's Basketball playing skills ✨How we are doing with a teen driver. (I often find myself singing the...

Here are some of the main talking points from this episode.: ✨Taking the shame out of your conversations by tempering your reactions and acknowledging your mistakes. ✨Take care of yourself first! ✨Owning your part. Their “issues” might seem bigger but you still need to own your part in the relationship. ✨Sharing with people you and your partner trust. Can’t wait to hear what you think! Get som...

This week we interview a blast from our past, Dr. Elia Gourgouris. If you want to find more happiness in your life, this episode is for you! Dr. Elia Gourgouris is the president of The Happiness Center, an organization of world-leading experts in the field of Positive Psychology dedicated to creating personal success and happiness. He is also Founding Partner at The Global Institute of Thought Lea...

Ever wonder if there is a story we have not shared or have said we would never share? Well, we wanted to come back strong by sharing a story I (Jessica) said I would never share here on the podcast. It is something I have never even talked to my parents about. 😳 Why have we not shared it? Because I KNOW there will be people who judge me hardcore for this one. Why are we sharing it now? Because I...

In this episode, Matt, Steve, and Jessica will dive back into Steve and Jessica’s journal entries from the period when they had patched things up to try and give dating another try. They were each going through a very tough time because things were not working out as they had expected.  They go back to June 10, 2012, when Steve was journaling about his spiritual struggles. He believed that he had...

In this episode, Matt, Steve, and Jessica will take a deeper dive back into the time when Steve and Jessica were getting back together to give things another try, and each of them will pull up their journals and read through their six months of dating post-divorce period.  Jessica will start by sharing a journal entry about how she and Steve passed by some of their friends in Colorado as they were...

In this episode, Steve and Jessica will talk about the beginning of the end of their marriage, and how quickly it fell apart. - - - > Learn more at: https://linktr.ee/theboldlogic  Additional Resources:  Come hang out with us at our first in-person LIVE event. We can't wait to meet you! https://theboldlogic.com/hillive Are you a Stepmom?  Is being a Stepmom something that may happen in your...

This was the time of the most turmoil and stress in Jessica and Steve's marriage.  It was the breaking point.  Steve had an affair with a man in hopes that it would shut down the gay side of himself, but the reality was quite the opposite.  Learn more at: https://linktr.ee/theboldlogic Additional Resources  Come hang out with us at our first in-person LIVE event. We can't wait to meet you!...

Hey Guys, Jessica, Matt, and Steve here with a big announcement to make. Ever since we recorded our first episode of the Husband in Law podcast, we have really enjoyed the ride. We are grateful that you always tune in each week. Most importantly, we are humbled to know that we have helped many people with our perspective on issues such as coming out, divorce, and co-parenting We are always happy t...

Last week, we answered one question from a listener, and this week we answer some more. This week’s set of questions are specifically directed to Steve. Among the questions we answer is one from a listener who wants to know how Steve navigated through coming out and divorce. This listener is in a similar situation, and hopefully, Steve’s perspective makes it easier for them.   In addition, we chat...

This week, Matt, Steve, and I tackle the topic of co-parenting and having the hard conversations that need to be had when raising kids in this situation. The key to successful co-parenting is swallowing your pride and putting aside your ego, and always remember that it is not about either of you; it’s about the wellbeing of the kids.   Any anger or resentment you have towards the other parent must...

Last week Matt, Steve, and I discussed how to talk to kids about gender and sexuality…. This week we build on this by talking about how to approach the topic of dating with kids. 🙌 It is important for kids to learn about healthy relationships before they enter the dating world 💯 Opening up these conversations around sexuality and dating sends a clear message that they can be open with you about...

June is Pride Month, and just like we have done with previous episodes this month, we continue to celebrate and support the LGBTQ community. Today, Matt, Steve, and I discuss some ways you can talk with your kids about gender identity sexual orientation. It is important to open up these conversations with your children because the truth is that they are going to hear about these topics. The questi...

Hey guys, Jessica here with a new episode. 🙌 And today, Matt, Steve, and I are looking at ways straight, or cisgender people can be good allies to the LGBTQ community. 🏳‍🌈 If you are wondering, an ally is someone who has privilege but chooses to stand for and with a marginalized community by taking tangible ongoing actions to dismantle systems of oppression.  A good ally to the LGBTQ community c...

Hi guys, Jessica here! Following on from last week's episode, Matt, Steve, and I continue our conversation about coming out.  Steve shares his experience coming out and some of the lessons he learned, and things he could have done differently. One important piece of advice we talk about is why you should manage your expectations of the response you will get from people. The best way to go abou...

Hey Guys, Jessica here with another exciting episode for you. This week, we start off with an embarrassing co-parenting story that recently happened when I was dropping Penny off at Steve’s house. You’ve got to listen to this one. June is Pride Month, and we thought we could give some advice on how to respond when somebody comes out to you. As Steve always says, somebody very close to you will com...

Hi everyone, Jessica here 🙌! And today, we're talking about making plans for the summer. Navigating summertime as a blended family can be a little stressful. We’ve had a lot of big moments in our co-parenting situation in the summertime. As we approach summer, we thought we could share our experiences and some of the things that have helped us out in this situation. One of the things we talk...

Hi guys, Jessica here again with a new episode. This week we talk about what many parents struggle with; how to get kids to do their chores and teaching them why this is important. Getting kids to do chores is often a source of frustration to both the parent and the kid. The parent gets tired of saying it over and over again while the kid doesn't understand the fuss around it. In this episode,...

Hi guys, this is Jessica, and this week, we're back with a new episode! In it, we discuss something a lot of women experience: the realities of being a step-mom. Just like being a mother, being a step-mom can be difficult, scary, and emotionally draining. Navigating those relationships with your spouse's ex and your step-children is never easy, and so, sometimes, mistakes happen. And today...

Hi everyone, Jessica here! And today, we're back with a new episode about something that's a pretty big part of our lives. But first, a little catch up: Steve is back from vacation and he is TANNED. He's spent some time on the beach, and he's feeling energized and better than ever now (I must say, I’m a bit jealous)! Now, let’s move on to this week's discussion: how Mother'...

Hi guys, it's Jessica! And today, we're coming back with another episode. Our 100th one as it happens (YAYY)!! And because we've reached such a huge milestone, this week, we're going back to the beginning.  But first, since this is our 100th episode (again, YAYY), we have a gift for you guys. I mean, where would we be without you all? We wanted to show our gratitude, so we created...