Husband in Law

Do You Feel Like… This isn't what your life "Should" look like and there is no moving forward? You have been trying to be the "perfect wife" for so long you don't know who you are any more.  Like you have no one that understands.  Do you feel no one is (or no one will) support you in the decisions you want to make.  You don't know how your life will look now. You don&#3...

Matt really wanted to record about Valentine’s day, which sent us on a few different but related tangents. Join Matt and I (Jessica) as we dive into how we have betrayed each other and moments we have betrayed ourselves. Don’t miss the moment I ask Matt a question that had me holding my breath until he answered. Would you ask your partner that question? Are you both confident and humble enough to...

It has taken me, Jessica, years to say these words to describe what I have experienced in my relationship. Was I trying to protect Steve and Matt? Was I trying to protect myself? I am still now 100% sure and I don’t know that it matters. What matters is that I am fully acknowledging what I have been through and the depth of that. Are you ready to acknowledge this within yourself?   Are you ready t...

It’s not all laughing and teasing through hard conversations. This week emotions run high as we continue our discussion about switching up our daughter’s custody schedule. How did that really feel as co-parents navigating this big decision? Join us as we dive into the nitty gritty and finish out the conversation we started last week.  Are you ready to figure out how to move forward after a Crisis...

This ends abruptly!  Ever wanted to be a fly on the wall during a HARD conversation?! Well today is your lucky day.  We are talking all about how we are navigating custody for Penny. After we recorded this episode we decided it warranted two episodes! So be prepared for some hard conversations, as well as an abrupt ending and what turns into some high level emotions next week… Will Steve and I com...

Things are shifting ever so slightly around here. You have probably heard me allude to it but today I am tackling it head on.  I have heard from women over and over again, "Jessica, I am feeling all the same things you are describing but I didn't have a partner come out." Why is that? Is that weird? I am here to answer all your questions about why you are feeling all the same things. L...

Things change quickly and often when you have shared custody. This may be hard to believe but there are things that have happened in our lives’ that we have not shared with you. But we recognize, and hope you recognize, that there is a time and place for sharing. As we sat down to reflect on the things we have learned over the past year and what we want to take with us, so things came up that we h...

It only took us 11 Years to get here...  This episode is sharing what happened this holiday in our little family. I kept thinking how did we get here?!  What are we doing?! And then reminding myself that this is what living into your values instead of the "shoulds" looks and feels like. We hope that sharing will help you be ready to do the same.    Ready to figure out "What NOW?!"...

What does it look like when you add a third “Dad” to your child’s life? We can’t say how it goes for everyone but in this episode, we share what it has been like for us and our daughter. Jalen is back to share how it has been joining our family. What the move to Boise was like. And how many plants Steve and Jalen own. They are definitely plant dads. Want to be a safe place for your friends and fam...

Joining us today may be the most anticipated guest EVER in the history of podcasting… Okay, maybe just in the history of the Husband in Law Podcast. Any guesses?! How did you get that right?! Maybe because we gave it away in the last episode. Jalen, Steve’s boyfriend, is here with us today. And you will see why he fits into our little family so perfectly.   He opens up about IT ALL! By the end of...

You had questions and we have answers… Kind of.  Haha! Okay we do answer your questions in this episode. Everything from finding a new community after coming out, to how pissed did Jessica and Steve get at each other during the “in between phases” of their relationship, to how did Steve and Jalen meet.   BUT the thing we want you to know most is that we share what has worked for us. And while some...

This episode is a quick reminder as to why gratitude is so dang important AND some insight as to what gratitude can really do for you in your life.  Enjoy!     Feeling the pressure of the holidays? Ready for more joy and less stress during the holiday season while  feeling connected to yourself and others?!  Register for the FREE Holiday Boundaries Class to get just that starting TODAY! There will...

It's the most wonderful time of the year... except when it isn't. The holidays can be joyful or straight up stressful. More often than not they are a combination of both.  This holiday season set yourself up the best you can with some Holiday Boundaries.   LAST CHANCE! Gnomies are rolling out fast! Grab yours while you can.  Head to theboldlogicshop.com to get yours before they are gone.  ...

Have you see the "Mormon No More" documentary on Hulu?  Whether you have or haven't won't make a difference as you listen to today's episode where the three of us sit down to share our own unique perspectives on it. Don't miss the names/titles Matt felt would have been more fitting. Do you think any of us will see eye to eye on it?! 😅   Want a simple way to create holiday...

Steve always tells me he doesn't want to live past 60. 😅 Which quite honestly pisses me off BUT he carries very strong feelings about "getting older" and until we recorded this episode I didn't realize that Matt has very strong feelings as about it as well. You can hear what Matt has to say by listening in now.   What are your thoughts about getting older? I didn't say this on...

This week we are talking about the process of mourning a relationship. It can look many different ways and can hit us at the most random times.  We share how it looked for Steve and me to mourn our relationship, and how it was for Matt to mourn his relationship with Ann.  Steve also shares about something he is currently mourning and then Matt compares it to a parking lot...  Which leads to the qu...

Was it embarrassment? Or was it a catalyst for change?  Maybe it was both…  Today we are talking about the moments that change us.  Sometimes they come at unexpected times and in unexpected places…  Have you ever had one? Share it with us on Instagram or email jessica@theboldlogic.com. Today is the day!  If you have had a partner come out don’t miss out on the LAST FREE workshop of the year that i...

Someone is missing from this episode but YOU will not want to miss out on these insights into the ABCs of emotional cleaning. Are you an emotional cleaner? (This is not what you think it is...) And I can't wait to hear your insights into what emotional cleaning looks like for you. Also!  If you have a question for us or a topic you would like us to cover on the pod, please respond to this emai...

We're back! This week we have a special treat for you. It is a live Q&A where we answer some of your most pressing questions. Have a question of your own? Don't hesitate to reach out to us on Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/husband_in_law/ ) or send us an email jessica@theboldlogic.com and we will be sure to get it answered on an upcoming episode. Are you a woman who has had a pa...

In this episode, Jessica, and Steve will talk about their first year of marriage, having a blast in college. Jessica will then share the story of how she came upon Steve’s gay porn on the computer while he was away at work. Steve hadn’t yet come to terms with the fact that he was gay, and he was devastated by Jessica’s discovery. They will share all that transpired after that and it’s going to be...

In this episode, Matt, Jessica, and Steve will talk about the Boise Gay Pride Festival and what their experiences were. Steve will dive into being deeply involved in organizing the different pride festivals that have been held in the past and all the challenges they go through. The three of them, with Steve’s guidance, will then demystify the societal misconceptions about so much relating to the L...

In this episode, Stephanie May (we mentioned her in the last episode. Remember?) comes on to talk about how she introduced Steve and Jessica to each other. Steph will ask Steve and Jessica a range of questions just to get a better understanding of what really happened that led to their eventual divorce. It’s gonna be a hilarious one. You won’t wanna miss it. Retreat registration is open! Payment o...

So, how did Steve and Jessica even meet in the first place?! In this episode, Steve and Jessica will dive into how they met and how their relationship developed - ultimately leading to their marriage. Through deliberate effort by Steve (he was admittedly intrigued by Jessica), they met back in college, and the story of how they got to the point where they got married and honeymooned in Victor, Ida...

Getting to know you, Getting to know all about you... 🎶🎵🎶  Where did this crazy story begin and who the heck are Jessica, Matt, and Steve?  Great question and today you are going to get to hear how this all began so many many many years ago, in a land far far away.  Or something like that... Show that you are an ally while educating yourself and those in your home... And without flying a rainbo...

This was the time of the most turmoil and stress in Jessica and Steve's marriage. It was the breaking point. Steve had an affair with a man in hopes that it would shut down the gay side of himself, but the reality was quite the opposite. As with everything in their relationship, they put everything out on the table and discussed how they could move on from this. The problem was, neither of the...