The Marketing Practice
How to Grow a CMO
What does it take to be a successful B2B CMO in today’s ever more complex world? In this podcast, we speak to B2B marketing leaders to understand the skills, experience, and leadership needed to make a successful CMO. What’s the right blend of science and art? How do you keep the C-Suite happy? How do you balance short-term and long-term? And how do you inspire the CMO’s of the future? We’ll be answering these questions and much more, as we discover how to grow a CMO.
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
Chris Koehler is done playing it safe | Part 2 28.05.2025 28:38
Alastair Hussain welcomes back Chris Koehler, CMO at Twilio, for the second half of their two-part conversation. In this episode, Chris and Ali discuss how to shift from talking about point solutions to telling a platform story, their shared passion for pricing, slaying the attribution dragon, and why CMOs need to feel uncomfortable. How to Grow a CMO is brought to you by The Marketing Pract...
Chris Koehler: the CMO who watched rockets from his rooftop | Chris Koehler, CMO, Twilio | Part 1 21.05.2025 21:46
This week on How to Grow a CMO, Alastair Hussain sits down with Chris Koehler, CMO at Twilio, for part one of a two-part conversation. Chris reflects on his early aspirations, from childhood dreams of becoming an astronaut, to excelling in soccer. He shares how influential mentors have been key to his success, as well as his wife, a psychologist, whose perspective helps keep him grounded. Chr...
Building teams with the right mentality | Aruna Ravichandran | CMO, Webex by Cisco 02.10.2024 44:41
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by Aruna Ravichandran, CMO at Webex by Cisco. Aruna transitioned from a successful engineering career to marketing, driven by a passion for understanding customer needs and the creative aspects of the discipline. In their conversation, she explains how her team navigated the challenges posed by the pandemic – including a majo...
The importance of curiosity and collaboration | Unnikrishnan KP | CMO, Palo Alto Networks 18.09.2024 35:22
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by Unnikrishnan KP, CMO at Palo Alto Networks. In a wide-ranging conversation, Unni and Ali discuss how to make sectors like cybersecurity more relatable and engaging (with some help from Keanu Reeves). Unni also emphasizes the need for marketers to be adaptable, curious, and collaborative, and the importance of engaging with...
Remembering the ‘why’ of marketing | Claire Hockin | CMO, Splunk 04.09.2024 42:29
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by Claire Hockin, CMO at Splunk. In a fascinating discussion, Claire reflects on a career spent working across the globe, and the lessons learned from exposure to different cultural perspectives and business environments. Claire and Ali also discuss the importance of explaining the strategic ‘ why ’ behind marketing activitie...
The importance of effective partner marketing | Kelly Hopping | CMO, Demandbase 14.08.2024 49:28
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by Kelly Hopping, CMO at Demandbase. In a wide-ranging discussion, Kelly and Ali talk about why brand identity is like a goalkeeper, what Kelly says is the fastest way to increase marketing efficiency, and how getting the ways of working right between clients and agencies is crucial in creating the best work. How to Grow a CMO...
Creating an emotional connection in B2B marketing | Kevin Sellers | CMO, Ping Identity 31.07.2024 41:26
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by Kevin Sellers, CMO at Ping Identity. Kevin and Ali discuss how CMOs can get their CFOs on board, and what it's like to lead marketing at a company that has transitioned from public to private. Kevin also recalls asking his team to break down the buyer journey for a large deal in an impressive level of detail, and shares...
The importance of collaboration in marketing | Amy Heidersbach | CMO, DHI Group 18.07.2024 44:27
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by Amy Heidersbach, CMO at DHI Group. Amy and Ali discuss the evolution of marketing as a discipline in recent decades, and the impact of digital transformation and the speed of decision-making in today's industry. She delves into her current role at DHI, highlighting the importance of understanding both B2C and B2B growth...
The gradual journey to your North Star | Brett Hannath | CMO, Intel 03.07.2024 49:30
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by Brett Hannath, CMO of Intel. Brett and Ali discuss the complexities of aligning marketing efforts with sales and partner organizations, emphasizing the importance of integrated campaigns, effective content, and leveraging champions within the organization for successful execution. Brett shares his excitement about advanceme...
Driving efficiency and effectiveness in marketing | Paula Darvell | CMO, formerly of Snow Software 20.06.2024 33:00
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by Paula Darvell, ex-CMO of Snow Software. Paula and Ali discuss the evolution of the approach to marketing that she led at Snow Software, a shift which contributed to a doubling of revenues and the company's successful acquisition. Paula also offers practical advice for marketers, stressing the importance of impact, custo...
The CMO as steward of the customer | Chris Kozup | Darktrace 05.06.2024 41:31
On episode four of this series of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by CMO of Darktrace, Chris Kozup . In their conversation, Chris and Ali discuss the challenges of marketing in a rapidly evolving field like cybersecurity, and the importance of striking a balance between fear-based messaging and positive, forward-looking narratives. Chris also shares his views on leadership...
The importance of software | Kirsten Cox | ServiceNow 22.05.2024 42:47
On episode three of this series of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by Vice President, EMEA Marketing at ServiceNow, Kirsten Cox . In their conversation, Kirsten and Ali discuss the importance of aligning marketing efforts with sales and understanding the language of different business functions. Kirsten emphasises the value of transparent communication, the importance of soft...
Having the right conversations with customers | Gil Rosen | Amdocs 08.05.2024 41:26
On the second episode of the new series of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by CMO at Amdocs, Gil Rosen . Gil and Ali discuss Gil’s unexpected journey into marketing, the value of bringing a diverse set of skills and experiences to the discipline, and the importance of having the right conversations with customers. How to Grow a CMO is brought to you by The Marketing Pract...
Coherence over consistency | Clara Lee | Neste 24.04.2024 36:54
On the first episode of the new series of How to Grow a CMO, host Alastair Hussain is joined by Vice President of Global Brand at Neste, Clara Lee. In a wide-ranging discussion, Clara and Ali discuss the importance of ensuring your external positioning corresponds with your actions as a brand, the importance of retaining a macro perspective on your business, and why focusing on coherence over co...
How to stand out from the AI 'blandscape' - with Salesforce, Thomson Reuters and Rascal Ventures 27.03.2024 52:10
This bonus episode of How to Grow a CMO is taken from our recent virtual fireside chat on AI. Host: Alastair Hussain, SVP Strategy at The Marketing Practice Guests: Melinda Chan, Head of Marketing, Demand Generation, at Thomson Reuters Joanna Moss, UK&I Director of Executive Programs and ABM at Salesforce Jen Wright, Founder of Rascal Ventures They tackled the big question for many B2B marketi...
Going public and the importance of diverse teams, with Steve Daheb 01.11.2023 49:37
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Ali Hussain is joined by Steve Daheb , CMO at Tanium. Steve’s career has focused on creating and leading new market categories for a wide range of organisations – from start-ups to public companies with $40B revenue. His experience spans multiple technology areas including all layers of cloud, and he is widely recognised as a B2B tech industry leade...
The importance of prioritising resources, with Eric Glass 18.10.2023 38:35
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Ali Hussain is joined by Eric Glass , CMO at Ceridian. Eric’s career has combined both in-house and agency roles, and has seen him work for brands including HP, Yahoo!, LinkedIn, and Workday. In their conversation, Eric and Ali discuss the value of agency experience in understanding how organisations operate and different industry dynamics. E...
The relationship between brand and demand, with Heather Dodgers-Rubash 04.10.2023 27:08
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Ali Hussain is joined by Heather Dodgers-Rubash , SVP of Marketing at NetSPI. Heather’s journey into marketing came via stints in journalism and politics, before landing roles at a number of start-up and established tech providers. In their conversation, Heather and Ali discuss the importance of balancing brand and demand, the power of c...
The virtues of democratising information, with Evelina Amanatidou 06.09.2023 30:14
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Ali Hussain is joined by Evelina Amanatidou , Global Head of Marketing Communications at Temenos. Evelina learned about the intricacies of business from a young age. Her father, a CFO, taught her that to fully understand a business, you must understand the numbers, and that marketing was just another ‘lever’ you have to pull to make a company...
Finding opportunity in frugality, with Sandy Mallik 23.08.2023 33:07
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Ali Hussain is joined by Sandy Mallik, Marketing Lead Northern Europe of PTC. Sandy has a passion for frugality, born of a necessity to work with with limited budgets in many of his previous roles. Yet this ‘philosophy of frugality’ is not simply about saving money, but instead focuses on the idea of making the most of your res...
The art of doing more, with less, with Margaret Franco 09.08.2023 35:32
On this episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Ali Hussain is joined by the CMO of Kinaxis, Margaret Franco . Margaret has a wealth of marketing and product management expertise from her career in the technology industry, having occupied executive global roles at the likes of Dell, Finastra and AMD. She has recently taken up a new role as CMO at Kinaxis, specialists in supply chain man...
How curiosity makes you a better marketer, with Lisa Campbell 26.07.2023 44:19
On this new episode of How to Grow a CMO, host Ali Hussain is joined by the CMO of OneTrust, Lisa Campbell . Lisa has 25 years of experience in the software industry. Her success spans across Fortune 500 companies and startups, where she's collaborated with various leadership teams to revamp brands, introduce innovative products and pioneer new business models. Prior to joining OneTrust, Li...
How to redefine the role of marketing, with Norman Guadagno 12.07.2023 48:28
On the first episode of the new series of How to Grow a CMO, host Ali Hussain is joined by the CMO of Mimecast, Norman Guadagno . Norman is considered one of the most influential CMOs in B2B tech. Starting as a research psychologist, Norman found himself drawn to the world of technology and eventually discovered a deep connection with marketing. He was motivated by understanding human behaviour an...
Unveiling truths and dispelling marketing myths | Brian Goldfarb | Tenable 18.01.2023 31:29
Brian Goldfarb is the CMO at Tenable. Brian is a highly experienced marketing expert and has held senior roles at GE, JPMorgan Chase, Google, Microsoft and Salesforce. He was previously CMO at Splunk, Chef Software, Amperity and now Tenable. We discuss: Why the CMO role is not all about Marketing How to transform an organisation whilst honouring the past Which areas of Marketing need their myths d...
Brand building in a world-class marketing organisation | Lauren Vaccarello | Salesloft 03.01.2023 37:35
Lauren Vaccarello is CMO at Salesloft. Lauren has a track record of accelerating revenue growth for the fastest-growing SaaS companies in Silicon Valley. She believes businesses need to tell compelling stories and build a brand if they want to own a category. We discuss: How marketers use technology in a way that sellers don’t How challenges can help shape a leader Influences past roles have...
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