Heartwork Podcast

This is not a polished episode. Sara is in the middle of something, not on the other side of it, and she shares it in real time. A health crisis that forced her into the hospital after eighteen years of refusing medical intervention. The badge of honor she had been wearing on purpose, the one she used to say "look at me, look at what I have done." The little girl inside her who had been...

You are moving fast. Most of the people listening to this podcast are. The question we want to sit with is what you are actually moving fast toward, and whether the version of you who gets there will recognize the life she built. This pattern was not invented in your business. It was built somewhere a long time before that, and it has been running you ever since. Marisa is in the middle of a move...

There is a version of leadership that looks like care and runs on something older. The boss who needs to be needed. The leader who quietly built her identity around being the person who holds everyone. The high vibe culture that turned, somewhere along the way, into a room where nobody can step into their own authority because she is already holding all of it. In this episode, we get underneath th...

We thought our cultures were good. And then we started paying attention to what happens when we are the ones on the other side of the counter. The receptionist who looks up chewing gum. The company that goes silent for a week and a half after taking our deposit. The office that has incredible care but no music, no warmth, nothing in the room that meets you. None of these are big breaches. They are...

Partnership is one of the most beautiful and most humbling places to do inner work. Because the person you chose does not stop evolving. Neither do you. And somewhere between the version of them you fell for and the version of them standing in your kitchen right now, expectations have a way of quietly turning into resentment if you are not paying attention. This episode is a real, unfiltered conve...

At some point, even a life you chose can start to feel like it is just happening to you. The same drive to work, the same chicken in the pan, the same version of yourself showing up on repeat. In this episode, Sara and Marisa get into one of the most quietly radical conversations they have had yet: what it actually looks like to add flavor, fire, and presence to the everyday things, without blowin...

There is a version of you that has been waiting. Not the version that has it together, not the version that performs well in the right rooms, but the one underneath all of that. The one that wants to climb a tree in five inch heels and feel something crack open. In this episode, Sara and Marisa bring you into a weekend that was part brand shoot, part community, part something neither of them can f...

Every practice owner will face these four leadership principles again and again. How to stay calm under pressure. How to have tough conversations. How to hold real accountability. And the art of celebrating your people well. These are not one-time situations. They show up in the daily rhythm of running a practice, in the moment someone drops the ball, in the tension that fills a room when somethin...

Most people walk into a personal development event looking for an answer. A framework, a fix, a clear path forward. What happened at HeartWork Live on March 13th and 14th was something entirely different. In this episode, Sara and Marisa take you inside the weekend, the 13 acres, the art, the movement, the tears, the breakthroughs, and the moment a 60-year-old woman asked herself what she wanted f...

There is a moment most practice owners know well. A seat opens up, the pressure builds, and every instinct you have screams to fill it fast. What nobody tells you is that the urgency you feel is data, and it is worth sitting with before you act on it. In this episode, Sara and Marisa get into the real, unfiltered conversation about what hiring and firing actually looks like as you grow as a leader...

You opened yourself up. You shared your heart, bought the coffees, said yes to every request, became the kind of boss people loved. And then one day you found yourself fuming over something small, exhausted by everything, quietly resentful of the culture you built. This episode is for every leader who got so busy taking care of everyone else that they forgot to take care of the business, and thems...

We are living in a world that loves a narrative arc. New year, new era, new identity. And while there is something genuinely beautiful about anchoring to something bigger than yourself, what happens when that external anchor starts doing the work your own self-awareness was always meant to do? This episode is an honest, tender, and sometimes hilarious look at the Fire Horse Lunar Year, what it act...

There's this beautiful tension between being able to show up authentically in different rooms and slipping into performance mode without even realizing it. Marisa calls it her gift to "mold and chameleon" into different spaces, but there's a line where connecting becomes performing, where you're trying to prove you're worthy of being in the conversation instead of jus...

You know that feeling when you step into something new and it doesn't quite fit? When the opportunity feels too big, the role feels too heavy, and you're wondering if you'll ever actually grow into it? Sara and Marisa unpack the analogy of the oversized coat: that moment when God gives you something bigger than what you currently fit into, not to overwhelm you, but to invite you to...

You hired them because you saw potential. You trained them because you believed they could step into what you needed. But somewhere between the vision and the reality, a gap opened up. They're not moving as fast as you hoped. They're not thinking the way you do. And suddenly, you're questioning everything: Did I hire the wrong person? Am I a bad leader? Why can't they just get...

Sydney Kaye Hagel was sitting in her corporate cubicle, successful by every external measure, and her nervous system was screaming. She had a stable job, benefits, and a wedding to pay for. She'd already built The Wealthy Circle, a community for women she truly cared about. And yet every day she showed up to her corporate role feeling more misaligned, more disconnected from the vision she hel...

What happens when everything you've built suddenly feels like it was created for someone else's definition of success? Sara found herself asking a question that felt completely foreign: what does my heart actually want? Not what the industry says or what the next level of growth is supposed to look like. Just what does her heart want. And the answer was terrifying because it involved res...

You know that moment when you finally collapse on Sunday night after saying yes to everything all week long? When you've skipped lunch to answer emails, scrolled Instagram instead of taking a real break, and promised yourself you'll start taking care of yourself after you hit that next milestone? Here's what nobody tells you about burnout: it doesn't start at work. It doesn&apo...

When you're building a team, one of the biggest questions is: what benefits do I actually offer? PTO, sure. But how does it accrue? Do part-time employees get the same as full-time? What about holidays that fall on days you're not even open? And what's fair for maternity leave when you're not a massive corporation with endless resources? This episode is us breaking down the emp...

You think you know what you're feeling and why you're feeling it. You've identified the problem, you've made it make sense, you've got a logical explanation. But what if that's just the surface? What if there are deeper layers your heart is inviting you to explore? This episode is us sharing what happened in our recent coaching sessions when we realized there was so m...

This year taught us how to recognize when our ego was driving versus when our heart was leading. Sara spent the first half of the year wrapped up in performance, chasing money and success and notoriety, until she started asking herself "is this what my brain thinks I should want, or is this what my heart actually wants?" Marisa navigated building her business, hiring team, creating space...

We talk a lot about scaling your business, but nobody talks about what it actually takes to scale yourself as a leader first. The truth is, if you're frustrated with your team, resentful of clients who don't show up, or exhausted from giving so much to people who take without reciprocating, the problem isn't them. It's you. And we know that's hard to hear because we'v...

We get asked all the time how to become a better leader. And here's the truth nobody wants to hear: it starts with you doing your own inner work first. You can't empower your team if you're not aware of your own stuff. You can't lead people through transformation if you haven't walked through it yourself. This isn't about reading more leadership books or implementing...

We get asked all the time how we convert so many people from pain-based care into wellness and lifestyle adjustments. The answer isn't one magical conversation. It's a hundred small ones that happen from the moment someone sees your website to the moment they sign their wellness plan. You're either guiding the conversation proactively or you're scrambling to convince someone re...

We're getting ready to close out 2025 and step into 2026, which means vision casting season is here. But before you start setting a million goals that you'll feel like crap about not hitting, we need to talk about the difference between goals and objectives. Goals are specific, time-bound, results-driven. They aim for a destination and if you don't hit it, you can feel like a failur...