Christopher T. Copeland & Sandra C. Smith
Heart of the Enneagram
A deeper dive into the Enneagram
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Christopher T. Copeland & Sandra C. Smith
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Jan 16, 2025
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Episodes
Fathoms Feature: Being More than Your Type with Sandra C. Smith 16.01.2025 57:34
Listen to Christopher Copeland on Fathoms In this episode, we talk to Sandra C. Smith, an Enneagram teacher, about her new book, The Enneagram Map to Your Deeper Self: Living Beyond Your Type. [2:44] Getting to know Sandra through summer-themed questions [8:26] Sandra’s personal journey with the Enneagram [12:19] Sandra’s teachers, their influences on her and how they show up in her book [17:16] D...
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E6 20.04.2021 38:46
Sandra and Chris reflect on the wisdom gleaned from leaders in Season 6 and offer an overview of the gifts and sensibilities of each Enneagram type as it relates to leadership.
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E5 13.04.2021 41:03
Join Sandra and Chris as they talk with Vance Brown, who leads with Enneagram type Three. Vance shares the ways in which his type shows up in his leadership role as a high-tech CEO.
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E4 06.04.2021 41:12
Learn about the gifts and challenges of a type Eight leader as Chris and Sandra talk with non-profit co-director and NC Senator Julie Mayfield.
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E3 30.03.2021 45:16
Listen as Chris and Sandra talk with Bill Toth who leads with Enneagram type Six. Bill shares how his Enneagram type has influenced the ways in which he leads in his diverse professional background in global security.
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E2 23.03.2021 45:08
How do a type One and type Three co-lead a team? Find out as Chris and Sandra talk with Elizabeth Sawin & Drew Jones, Co-founders of Climate Interactive. Beth and Drew share the insights they have gleaned from years of co-leading and how their leadership styles relate to their Enneagram Types.
The Enneagram & Leadership - S6 E1 16.03.2021 43:53
Micky ScottBey Jones, a womanist, faith-rooted contemplative activist, movement chaplain, nonviolence practitioner, and justice doula, shares how her leadership is informed and impacted by her Enneagram Type 1.
Elder Wisdom Season Finale - S5 E7 22.09.2020 28:13
Sandra and Chris reflect on the wisdom gleaned from elders in Season 5 and ask each other what they would say to their 25 year old self.
Elder Wisdom with Sandra Maitri - S5 E6 15.09.2020 41:05
Sandra Maitri shares her wisdom of eastern and western spiritualities and her journey learning the Enneagram in the 1970s from Claudio Naranjo and leading with type Two.
Elder Wisdom with Jeanette Stokes - S5 E5 08.09.2020 34:13
Jeanette Stokes shares how the Enneagram has influenced her understanding of her vocational journey resourcing women in ministry.
Elder Wisdom with Sheryl Cohen - S5 E4 01.09.2020 41:52
Sheryl Cohen reflects on her experience of the Enneagram as a clinical psychologist and spiritual seeker.
Elder Wisdom with Billy Vaughn - S5 E3 25.08.2020 37:30
Chris and Sandra talk with Billy Vaughn, a retired member of the faculty at Memphis Theological Seminary, about the gift of Enneagram Type 9 and how he has worked with it over his life.
Elder Wisdom with Barbara Brown Taylor - S5 E2 18.08.2020 42:24
Barbara Brown Taylor is the New York Times bestselling author of An Altar in the World, Learning to Walk in the Dark, and Holy Envy: Finding God in the Faith of Others. She has been an Avon lady, a cocktail waitress, a horseback riding instructor, and a hospital chaplain, but her favorite job was teaching world religions at Piedmont College for twenty years before putting the chalk down in 2017. S...
Elder Wisdom with Luther Smith - S5 E1 11.08.2020 56:01
In the first episode of our season elder wisdom, Professor Emeritus Luther E. Smith, Jr. offers reflections about spirituality, racism, justice, and leading life as an Enneagram Type 9.
Abundance & Worthiness - S4 E7 14.05.2019 16:21
In this final episode of Season 4, Chris and Sandra reflect on a question about what it means to know that all Enneagram types are inherently worthy and have access to abundance, which allows all of us to have an Open Heart.
Enneagram Across the Lifespan - S4 E6 07.05.2019 38:45
Sandra and Chris explore a question about how type changes over time by interviewing two guests at different life stages who both lead with type 4 - Asher Walker-Wilson and Ed Hillman.
Practices for Growth - S4 E5 30.04.2019 21:55
Those who are learning about the Enneagram often ask, "I know my type - now what?" Sandra and Chris talk about practices for each of the Enneagram types that help engender growth by moving counter-instinctively.
Enneagram, Race, & Culture - S4 E4 23.04.2019 36:43
Sandra and Chris explore the intersection of the Enneagram with race and culture in conversation with guest, Kevin Young, employee relations manager at the Biltmore Company in Asheville, NC.
Misunderstanding of Types - S4 E3 16.04.2019 19:54
Chris and Sandra dispel some of the common misunderstandings of Enneagram types, in order to help deepen our knowledge of the Enneagram and shift away from stereotyping.
Look Alike Types - S4 E2 09.04.2019 17:20
Sandra and Chris talk about the look alike types of the Enneagram to help listeners distinguish between and discern their type.
Enneagram Myths & Questions Introduction - S4 E1 02.04.2019 22:48
Join Chris and Sandra as they respond to listeners' questions and dispel myths about the Enneagram in this new season of Heart of the Enneagram.
Conclusion of Season 3 - S3 E11 20.11.2018 15:39
Chris and Sandra reflect back on Season 3 - how their guests shared about relationships and the Enneagram - and talk about plans for the next season. Learn more about Heart of the Enneagram . Donate Now to support future episodes of this podcast. Whatever you give will be gratefully received. Purchase the Heart of the Enneagram book, a companion for deepening personal and spiritual growth. Check...
Type 3 & Type 5 in Relationship - S3 E10 13.11.2018 46:24
Neil Gurney (3) and Bill Kinard (5) explore their working relationship through the lens of their Enneagram types. Both Type 3 and Type 5 are oriented to projects and accomplishments, unemotional, factual, and work well together or independently. Both also avoid feelings, can become inattentive to the relationship, and avoid or lose connection. Learn more about Heart of the Enneagram . Donate Now t...
Type 6 & Type 8 in Relationship - S3 E9 06.11.2018 46:28
Brian Hollingsworth (6) and Anna Fleig (8) reflect on their friendship in light of their Enneagram types. Both Type 6 and Type 8 are courageous, loyal, protective and committed to worthy causes. They both can energetically support their relationship, and share the view that the world is fundamentally an unfriendly and untrustworthy place. With this perspective they also can be oppositional, contra...
Type 2 & Type 9 in Relationship - S3 E8 30.10.2018 48:07
Pat Bailey (2) and Dee Irwin (9) reflect on their 28 year partnership through the perspective of their Enneagram types. Both Type 2 and Type 9 have many similar tendencies and attributes that they bring to their relationships with each other. Both types are sensitive, pleasing, accommodating, helpful, focused on and responsive to others, and have a natural desire for harmony. Both also have diffic...
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