Brooke Small and Jesie Steffes

Heart Of Life Podcast

Welcome to the Heart of Life podcast, where therapists Jesie and Brooke invite you into an unscripted space for healing. Through their lived stories and candid conversations, they explore the depths of the human experience with curiosity and permission. Join Jesie and Brooke as they share their insights, experiences, and wisdom, empowering listeners to find freedom and bravery in their own journeys. While not a substitute for therapy, this podcast offers a sense of healing, belonging, and an invitation into becoming.

Author

Brooke Small and Jesie Steffes

Category

Education

Podcast website

www.riverbendcolorado.com

Latest episode

Apr 13, 2026

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Episodes

S4 8: Meeting Your Shadow 28.10.2024

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore the parts of self that are harder to see reflected back to us. What does it mean to let all parts of us be loved? To embrace the hardest to love parts, seeing their value as they contribute to our fullest expression. This week's invitation: Get acquainted with the parts. Notice the parts of you that emerge when you sit with your own fullness so that that j...

S4 7: What You Seek is Seeking You 21.10.2024

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie lean into Rumi's words "What you seek is seeking you." When was the last time you allowed yourself to be seen, or to see another without any expectation? This dance, of giving and receiving is more a remembering of our true nature than something that must be learned. This week's invitation: Play the game. As you're out and about, let a moment of eye contact be the...

S4 6: Facing Fear, Finding Truth 14.10.2024

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore the ways that dialoguing with fear can help us to remove it from the driver's seat. Can we welcome the truths that we often deny in the service of fear? Facing our fears with curiosity, not trying to conquer them, can allow us to anchor in reality - see truth fully, and create the life we want to live. This week's invitation: Where are you letting fear dec...

S4 5: Care Without Carrying 07.10.2024

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore the subtle distinction between "caring for" and "carrying for." They discuss how, by doing more than simply anchoring support for others, we may unintentionally deprive them of the growth and nourishment that come from their own learning This week's invitation: Notice where you are carrying and ask yourself what the other person may be unable to learn whil...

S3 4: Resistance As Guide 30.09.2024

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie dive into the idea of resistance as a guide. Discussing how resistance invites us to pause, explore our paths with curiosity, and tune into our intuition rather than pushing forward at full speed. This week's invitation: Notice places of resistance instead of plowing through, be curious. If you're located in Colorado and interested in working with one of the thera...

S4 3: Anchoring When We Feel Lost 23.09.2024

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke find stillness in the feeling of being lost. When we don't know where we're going, we don't know what to do next, can we call upon our anchors? This week's invitation: Can you identify an anchor point? What are the real relationships that anchor you when you feel lost? If you're located in Colorado and interested in working with one of the ther...

S4 2: Personal Alignment in Relationships 16.09.2024

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore how alignment or non-alignment with right effort can impact relationships. Noticing what it feels like to overfunction in relationships, or to effortfully seek specific outcomes instead of creating conditions for what you hope. This week's invitation: Pay attention to your body, listen to what your intuition is telling you. Notice what shifts in your b...

S4 1: Practicing Right Effort 09.09.2024

Welcome back to the Heart of Life Podcast! We're excited to kick off Season 4. In this season opener, Jesie and Brooke delve into the concept of 'right effort,' exploring how we can strike a balance between letting go of expectations and creating the conditions for the experiences we deeply desire. This season's anchoring invitation: Be gentle with yourself, be gentle with this wor...

Season 4 Teaser: Meet Lateka Salley, LCSW: Embrace Collaborative Healing and Empowerment 12.08.2024

In this season 4 teaser, Brooke and Jesie are joined by Lateka Salley, LCSW. Lateka is now full-time with us at Riverbend and she's accepting new clients! Listen here for a taste of the incredible healing work Lateka brings to the folks she works with. With a focus on collaborative care, empowering her clients, and an effortlessly laid-back (and barefoot) style, Lateka is the perfect guide for...

S3 29: Accepting Your Invitation 06.05.2024

In this season finale episode, Brooke and Jesie lean deeply into permission. There is no destination, there is no target, you are living an invitation into becoming. This has been a season of growth and learning. May we allow perfection to slough off and open to our own invitation. This week's invitation: Can you accept the invitation from yourself? Can you settle into rest, play, and gentlene...

S3 28: Our Deepest Desires 29.04.2024

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke dive deeper into the ways we often shun our deepest desires. What scripts and rules have we followed that have detached us from our deepest knowing and intuition, and how do we powerfully reclaim the desire deep within ourselves? This week's invitation: What is the largeness inside of you? Find someone who is "living in their largeness" and notice wh...

S3 27: Owning Our Needs 22.04.2024

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie get to the difficulty behind asking for help and discover together that it is often difficult to own and articulate our own needs. We often communicate about our needs in passive ways, making room for rejection, just in case those needs aren't met. This week's invitation: Can you connect to your deepest desire? Notice the judgmental voices that may come up...

S3 26: The Benefit of Asking for Help 15.04.2024

When the bravest version of us can see what we need to do next, sometimes the answer is to make a brave ask. Most of us are comfortable with offering support and help to others but struggle to receive it ourselves. We are all, always navigating something new. When we allow others to come alongside us in our learning, we not only create community, but we increase intimacy. This week's invitatio...

S3 25: The Bravest Version of You 08.04.2024

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore how we can elevate above our initial reactions. We often find ourselves turning to a passive protection of self or an aggressive assertion of self. What does it mean to allow our bravest self to expand our options of response to a balanced and aligned action? This week's invitation: Can you shorten your focus and then ask what the bravest version of yo...

S3 24: Loss and Liberation (Brooke's Story, Re-Release) 01.04.2024

Our Heart of Life community has grown tremendously since season one, so we thought it would be a wonderful time to re-introduce ourselves. In this episode re-release, Heart of Life podcast co-hosts Jesie and Brooke take time to introduce Brooke's story. Recalling impactful moments that led her to the mental health field, and sharing her perspective on humans, healing, and the work of telling o...

S3 23: Coming Home to Ourselves (Jesie's Story, Re-Release) 24.03.2024

Our Heart of Life community has grown tremendously since season one, so we thought it would be a wonderful time to re-introduce ourselves. In this episode re-release, Heart of Life podcast co-hosts Jesie and Brooke take time to introduce Jesie's story. Delving into the ways we learn about who we're meant to be, the roles we play in our lives, and the soulful work of coming home to ourselve...

S3 22: Whole, not Perfect 18.03.2024

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore what it looks like once we’ve done the internal work to heal, and still find space where old rules or conditioning exist. How do we hold this with compassion, grace, and curiosity, knowing that our healing can never be “undone.” This week's invitation: Don’t take yourself too seriously! Look at yourself with curiosity, compassion, and abundance. Can yo...

S3 21: The Emerging Me 11.03.2024

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore what it means to allow the version of us we've discovered through shadow and golden shadow work to fully emerge. What does it mean to release the pull of productivity and be still enough to allow the "emerging self" to spring forward? This week's invitation: Instead of following the rules that have been handed to you, let the "mud&qu...

S3 20: Our Golden Shadows (Part 2) 04.03.2024

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie continue the exploration of Carl Jung's concept of the Golden Shadow. How can our own Golden Shadows be the container for our deepest bravery, vulnerability, and creation? This week's invitation: Can you connect with your own Golden Shadow, the part of you craving to be your most true self? Can you do just one thing that allows that part to open up? If you...

S3 19: Our Golden Shadows (Part 1) 26.02.2024

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore Carl Jung's concept of the Golden Shadow. How can the painful experiences in our lives heal in a way that allows others to find refuge in us? This week's invitation: Where have you found shelter? Who in your world let themselves express their Golden Shadow and allowed you to take shelter in them? If you're located in Colorado and interested in...

S3 18: Intuition Based Self-Care 19.02.2024

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore the idea that intuition and a deeply connected relationship with our internal knowing are the birthplace of individualized self-care. Connection to this deep part of ourselves begins with stillness and listening. This week's invitation: Come to a place of stillness. This is where we start. Practice being still and just listen. If you're located in...

S3 17: Using Choice to Regulate Your Nervous System 12.02.2024

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie discuss a surprising and empowering way to help regulate your nervous system. Identifying points of activated internal choice can allow us to return to safety, even if some of our circumstances have not changed. This week's invitation: Notice and name where you might be in your nervous system activation, and then think about one small intentional activated cho...

S3 16: Allowing Change in Others 05.02.2024

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke expand the idea of change. While we've explored the idea of what it means to change within ourselves, what is it like to hold the change of another with curiosity and grace? We can hold the belief that all relational change signals pain, but in reality, we are healthiest when we welcome our own change as well as the change of those around us. This week's i...

S3 15: The Spiral Staircase of Healing 29.01.2024

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie talk frankly about the work of healing. We can use the phrases "curing" and healing interchangeably, but they are deeply different from one another. When we engage in the healing, we are journeying-climbing a staircase of learning, steady self-trust, and becoming. This week's invitation: Find some time to slow down, to be still. And see what happens...

S3 14: Learning to Be With the Little Things 22.01.2024

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke talk about the next steps after naming the puzzles we find ourselves in. Once we know where we'd like to go, how can we prioritize our own pace, necessary plateaus of rest, and the truth that there is "nothing to do," there is simply healing to integrate. In this space of releasing the hard effort, we can see ourselves fully, both validating our pain...

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