Brooke Small and Jesie Steffes

Heart Of Life Podcast

Welcome to the Heart of Life podcast, where therapists Jesie and Brooke invite you into an unscripted space for healing. Through their lived stories and candid conversations, they explore the depths of the human experience with curiosity and permission. Join Jesie and Brooke as they share their insights, experiences, and wisdom, empowering listeners to find freedom and bravery in their own journeys. While not a substitute for therapy, this podcast offers a sense of healing, belonging, and an invitation into becoming.

Author

Brooke Small and Jesie Steffes

Category

Education

Podcast website

www.riverbendcolorado.com

Latest episode

Apr 13, 2026

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Episodes

S5 25: A Closing Chapter: This Is Where We Leave Our Shoes 13.04.2026

In this final episode, Brooke and Jesie reflect on the past five seasons and how grateful they are for the podcast in their own lives and for all the ways listeners have come alongside, companioned the work, and let this podcast mean something truly special. An invitation to leave you with: Remember that you are already whole. PODCAST STATUS: After five seasons and 140+ episodes, we’ve closed the...

S5 24: Where We Find Delight 06.04.2026

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke dive into the benefit of delight, even in dark seasons or cold currents. Can we anchor into moments that bring levity, not as escape from reality, but as an essential part of being alive.  This week’s invitation: The invitation to you is to find delight. Let moments be light, even when the times are heavy. Make your mark. Where will you leave your shoes?   PODCAST...

S5 23: Staying With What’s True 30.03.2026

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore how moving with the current of life can allow questions of control and presence to emerge. How can we choose to be most softly present in each moment, even the ones that are difficult, for these are proof of life.  This week’s invitation: In the current that you’re in, see if you can find a moment where you can be present with what is true. Whether you fin...

S5 22: Trusting the Current 23.03.2026

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke continue the discussion of unlocking and consider what it feels like to open doors, the other side of which we cannot predict. How fluidity and movement allow us to meet unexpected challenges with resilience.  This week’s invitation: This is an invitation of rest and flow. Can you identify the currents in your life and consider what it would be like to move with t...

S5 21: You Hold the Key 16.03.2026

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore why the risk of holding the paradox is a valuable investment. How times of bravery can unlock the rest of our lives, truly making our investment in our own authenticity deeply, truly worth it.  This week’s invitation: You’ve done the hard work, you’ve come to the middle place and allowed for the and/both. You hold the key. What are you ready to unlock?   T...

S5 20: When the Story Changes 09.03.2026

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore how releasing stories, or being released from stories often come with a level of discomfort or pain. However, this process of release invites us into deeper integrity with the emerging self.   This week’s invitation: This is an invitation of integrity. Can you, with compassion, identify the places where you have changed your mind or where you no longer wan...

S5 19: The Paradox of Others 02.03.2026

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore how difficult it can be to hold the paradox of others. The temptation of either idealizing or villainizing people in their own paradox, and how our work is to anchor into ourselves in order to be in healthier relationship with others.  This week’s invitation: What are the stories that you were telling about who people should be to you and can you release t...

S5 18: The Wisdom of Paradox 23.02.2026

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke continue the discussion of the converging space between the “light and shadow” parts of self. Identifying the felt sense of contradiction in that space as a form of wisdom.  This week’s invitation: In the convergence between light and dark, can you identify the paradox? What seems to be contradiction can become and/both where a deeper truth can be found.   Thanks...

S5 17: Love in the Middle 16.02.2026

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie discuss the nature of love. How transformation in the self exists in the almond shaped space between the shadow parts and light parts. That center, the portal to the most authentic self.  This week’s invitation: Draw two circles that converge in the middle. On one side, describe what you know to be light about yourself. This could be generosity. This could be empa...

S5 16: Learning to Belong 09.02.2026

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke dive into the parts of self that have sought belonging, through the misaligned means of “fitting in.” They explore what it means to allow those parts to rest, revealing more authentic presence.  This week’s invitation: Identify the parts of you that developed to stay connected or fit in to a group, presume good intentions, and from a place of curiosity and compass...

S5 15: Vertical Choice 02.02.2026

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore how the direction in which our energy is going (horizontal or vertical) can inform how empowered and secure we feel in our ability to make conscious choices.  This week’s invitation: Pay attention to whether your energy is horizontal or vertical and from that place embody it and then ask from here what are my choices?   Thanks for listening to The Heart of...

S5 14: Before the Answer 26.01.2026

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore how an effortful drive toward healing and answers can pull us out of the present moment. They reflect on how staying with the now—rather than waiting for a future “when”—can offer relief, grounding, and a different kind of freedom. This week’s invitation: Consider a place where you may be living as a reaction to someone else or something else. What would i...

S5 13: Held in Community 19.01.2026

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore how holding and being held in community becomes a pathway back to ourselves. They reflect on the ways relational support can soften isolation, reshape our sense of belonging, and invite a deeper trust in both others and our own inner knowing. This week’s invitation: Think of the places where you’ve been working hard and consider what the mirror image to th...

S5 12: The Weight of Care 12.01.2026

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore how attention functions within relationships - how it’s offered, received, and shaped by our histories. They reflect on how support can become complicated when care intersects with fears of being “too much” or a burden, and how these unspoken beliefs influence intimacy and our ability to let ourselves be held. This week’s invitation: Think of the places wh...

S5 11: Accessing Sovereignty 17.11.2025

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore what it means to become the quiet authority over your own attention. So often our focus drifts toward people, worries, and expectations that don’t actually deserve the energy we’re giving them. This week’s invitation: Be the authority over your attention. Notice when you have given it to things and places where it doesn’t belong and what it feels like to c...

S5 10: Gratitude in Boundaries 10.11.2025

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore what it means to listen to your own “no” and honor someone else’s. They talk about the practice of responding with gratitude and how this small shift can deepen trust, boundaries, and connection. This week’s invitation: Listen to your “no” or hear someone else’s and begin, even if you don’t believe it yet, to say “thank you” for taking care of yourself and...

S5 9: Assume Belonging 03.11.2025

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore Augusta Kantra’s idea of “assume belonging.” Together they reflect on how belonging can be both a practice and a perspective. This week’s invitation: Assume belonging. How do you protect the tender bud of your becoming through privacy, through help, through quiet reflection, and curiosity? Thanks for listening to The Heart of Life podcast, where we explore...

S5 8: Beyond Fitting In 27.10.2025

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke move beyond the familiar stories we tell about ourselves. Exploring how those “canned” stories once kept us safe and made sense for a time—but how going deeper into them can lead to a fuller understanding of who we are and a truer sense of belonging, rather than just fitting in. This week’s invitation: Where did I learn this? How do I deconstruct and lean into the...

S5 7: Stories of Repair 20.10.2025

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore how our canned stories can keep us stuck, avoiding change or new ways of showing up with others. Here, we uncover the subtle ways our narratives shape our relationships and offer gentle practices for noticing, questioning, and rewriting the stories that no longer serve us. This week’s invitation: What is your canned story and how have you been using it to...

S5 6: The Clarity of Anger 13.10.2025

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore how to give anger the oxygen it needs - while keeping it yours. By disconnecting just enough from external pressures and distractions, we can meet our anger clearly, understand its messages, and discern our next steps with intention and integrity. This week’s invitation: Give anger some oxygen, but make sure that it’s yours. Disconnect enough to be able to...

S5 5: The Body’s Language of Coherence 06.10.2025

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie explore the courage it takes to disconnect from outside “authority” and instead tune in with curiosity to the body’s own wisdom - discovering how it naturally creates coherence, regulation, and a deeper sense of safety.  This week’s invitation: Disconnect from external “authority” in order to listen with curiosity to the way that your body creates coherence and re...

S5 4: Disconnect to Connect 29.09.2025

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore the art of stepping back in order to move forward. How can we courageously disconnect - from social media, from noise, from obligations - so that we can restore a sense of safety, presence, and clarity for ourselves and for those around us? This week’s invitation: In what ways can you bravely disconnect in order to connect and restore safety for yourself a...

S5 3: Learning to Trust Enough 22.09.2025

In this episode, Brooke and Jesie open a conversation about trust - not the impossible goal of full or unwavering trust, but the gentle act of trusting enough. Enough to soften your grip, enough to open to relationship, enough to find steadiness in an uncertain world. Together they explore how this kind of trust can shift how we meet ourselves, others, and life itself. This week’s invitation: What...

S5 2: Act with Great Love 15.09.2025

In this episode, Jesie and Brooke explore what it means to move through the world by acting with great love - rather than endlessly striving to “live” the right way. Together they reflect on the difference between performance and presence, the quiet power of choosing tenderness, and the freedom that comes when love becomes the guide.   This week’s invitation: Think of one place you can turn toward...

S5 1: Vulnerable Enough to Love 08.09.2025

In this first episode of season five, Brooke and Jesie explore the tender intersection of vulnerability and love - how opening ourselves changes not only our inner world but the way we meet others. Together they reflect on the courage it takes to soften, the possibility of being transformed by what we allow ourselves to feel, and the ways this practice can restore a deeper sense of belonging.   Th...

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