Healthcare Rap Media
Healthcare Rap
Healthcare Rap is the leading podcast about how consumer health works. Hosts Jared Johnson and Zain Ismail spotlight how healthcare is being designed, marketed, and delivered from the consumer point of view and profile leaders who are championing the move to preventive care. It is one of the longest-lasting podcasts in the industry, passing 500 episodes and 8 years on the air, and ranks in the top 5% of all podcasts globally. Highlights include CEOs, founders and other senior leaders from Oura, Whoop, Noom, Superpower, Novo Nordisk, Best Buy Health, CVS Health, Google, Microsoft, and hundreds...
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Jul 7, 2026
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GREATEST HITS: Say Goodbye to Friction (#389) 24.01.2025 25:56
Today’s AI stands on the foundation that was built years before. In the latest episode in our greatest hits collection, we revisit our conversation with Orbita’s Nate Treloar from November 2021, where he shared some provocative thinking about conversational AI, including voice and chatbots, and the very latest on how these technologies are providing flexibility and convenience. His tho...
Transcarent’s New Findings About the Cancer Experience (#388) 21.01.2025 24:01
Snezana Mahon, Chief Operating Officer at Transcarent, sheds light on the company’s recently released consumer insights about the cancer experience, matching benefit structures to support those journeys, and where employers fit into the equation. All that, plus the Flava of the Week about new research on aging in place from AARP and the Consumer Technology Association. How can adoption...
GREATEST HITS: Is Design Thinking The Secret Sauce? (#387) 17.01.2025 28:03
Before Amy Heymans became a regular in our Predictions Series, she joined us in November 2021 to share how design thinking catalyzes consumer-first healthcare. She discussed how to use design thinking principles to break down silos and bridge the gulf between designers and builders. The industry still needs help to harness the rich value of co-creation and deep empathy to build the Healthcar...
How Komodo Health’s Real-Time Data Helps Consumers (#386) 14.01.2025 27:30
Web Sun, President and Co-Founder of Komodo Health, talks about outsourcing complexity, turning lagging indicators into leading indicators, and democratizing insights that help change the game for consumers. All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the head of Function Health campaigning to integrate nutrition into medical school training. Can you imagine a future where your doctor prescri...
GREATEST HITS: Marketing's Role in Digital Transformation (#385) 10.01.2025 32:10
Ed Marx joined Jared in April 2021 to share how marketing and culture can either be catalysts for digital change or prevent progress from happening, and how healthcare martech stacks are often a glut of point solutions Frankensteined together. Ed is a luminary in the industry, and his remarks are just as relevant today. This show is produced by the Consumer-First Health Group, the community...
How Instacart Health Is Leading Tech-Enabled Nutrition (#384) 07.01.2025 23:43
Sarah Mastrorocco, General Manager of Instacart Health, discusses the past, present, and future of the popular service and how tech enablement platforms can ultimately improve people’s health. All that, plus the Flava of the Week about ZocDoc’s What Patients Want report. How can we use this report to refine the direction of our consumer strategies in the coming year? This s...
GREATEST HITS: Jared & Zain’s 2024 Predictions (#383) 02.01.2025 39:22
Replay Jared and Zain’s predictions from a year ago as they offered their takes on what could be coming next for consumer transformation from inside and outside traditional care providers. This bonus episode is part of the Greatest Hits collection — episodes from the past 6 years that are just as relevant today. Originally aired in December 2023 as episode #300. This show i...
New Year, Same Mission (#382) 31.12.2024 29:08
Jared begins 2025 with the State of the State in consumer-centered care. It’s a new year, but the mission remains the same: make significant progress making consumer-centered products and services. All that, plus a special Flava of the Week featuring a list of industry voices that YOU compiled. Whom did you recommend that we follow, watch, read, and listen to, and why are we asking you...
2025 PREDICTIONS SERIES: Jared, Zain & James (#381) 24.12.2024 49:12
Our 2025 Predictions Series wraps up as James Gardner joins Jared and Zain. What do we see happening with consumer-centered care? (1) The rise of connected fitness, (2) The hospital of the future, (3) Health systems going from a green light to a yellow light, (4) Public sentiment weakening in health systems, (5) Strengthening the pr...
GREATEST HITS: Jane Sarasohn-Kahn & Amy Heymans’ 2024 Predictions (#380) 20.12.2024 40:44
See how Jane Sarasohn-Kahn and Amy Heymans predicted that health systems, health plans, and new entrants would address the calls to become more consumer-centric in 2024. This bonus episode is part of the Greatest Hits collection — episodes from the past 6 years that are just as relevant today. Originally aired in December 2023 as episode #299. This show is produced by Shift Forwa...
2025 PREDICTIONS SERIES: Jane Sarasohn-Kahn & Amy Heymans (#379) 17.12.2024 42:48
The 2025 Predictions Series rolls on by welcoming back Jane Sarasohn-Kahn and Amy Heymans to share their predictions and why they think the environment is ripe for change. All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the next recommendation of industry leaders to follow, watch, read, and listen to on the topic of consumer-centered care. Who’s next on the list? This show is pro...
GREATEST HITS: Predicting Pretty Much Everything (#378) 13.12.2024 32:59
(Originally aired in March 2022) Paul Schrimpf, Jeff Gourdji, and Priya Aneja shared some provocative predictions about rising consumer and patient expectations, ever-advancing technology, and perennial pressure to reduce costs and increase access. This bonus episode is part of the Greatest Hits collection — episodes from the past 6 years that are just as relevant today. Original...
2025 PREDICTIONS SERIES: Paul Schrimpf & Jeff Gourdji (#377) 10.12.2024 28:27
Our 2025 Predictions Series kicks off with Paul Schrimpf and Jeff Gourdji diving into what they expect (and hope) to see in 2025 from traditional providers, nontraditional entrants, and payers. All that, plus the Flava of the Week about recommendations of industry leaders to follow, watch, read, and listen to on the topic of consumer-centered care. Why does the list start with the Microdosin...
GREATEST HITS: Our Advice to Consumer Health Brands (#376) 05.12.2024 23:27
This bonus episode is part of the Greatest Hits collection — episodes from the past 6 years that are just as relevant today. It was episode #195 and originally aired in January 2022. Zain and Jared offered advice to consumer brands that are trying to break into the healthcare industry. They shared what these brands have working in their favor, as well as the challenges that they would be facing i...
Dr. Gordon Chen & the Story Behind ThriveWell (#375) 03.12.2024 32:49
Dr. Gordon Chen returns to share the story behind his new venture ThriveWell, the five drivers of health and wellness, and dozens of insights for increasing longevity. All that, plus the Flava of the Week about older Americans being unsatisfied with their care. What particular aspects of care do seniors want to be improved, and how do we use these insights while designing and executing senior-fo...
GREATEST HITS: Dr. Gordon Chen On Value-Based Care’s Future (#374) 29.11.2024 30:07
Dr. Gordon Chen’s time at ChenMed informed his perspective on the state of value-based care, the changes that are needed to create more transformative care, and the benefits to society as we make progress along those lines. This bonus episode is part of the Greatest Hits collection — episodes from the past 6 years that are just as relevant today. It was episode #292 and it originally aired in Oc...
Zocdoc Founder Oliver Kharraz, MD (#373) 26.11.2024 30:44
Dr. Oliver Kharraz, CEO and Founder of Zocdoc, shares insight after insight on what actually drives healthcare behaviors and influences consumers’ choices. All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Amazon launching a new service competitive to Hims and Hers. What is the consumer insight that this new service is based on, and how can we bypass the bias against retailers to more quickly design con...
GREATEST HITS: Beyond the Customer Journey (#372) 21.11.2024 26:22
Christophe Jacquet shares some provocative thinking about how the health, wellness, and consumer sectors are increasingly overlapping, including a health design thinking framework that helps us understand why meeting a need isn’t enough to design products and service lines that are successful. We have to consider expectations and life aspirations as well. This bonus episode is part of the Greates...
Our First-Ever Health System Celebration Series (#371) 19.11.2024 55:17
4 episodes in 1! Join our first-ever Health System Celebration Series as we recognize the accomplishments of 4 leaders in digital engagement and consumer experience – Northwestern’s Kali Arduine Ihde, URMC’s Michael Hasselberg, MultiCare’s Jeremy Harrison, and Ballad Health’s Taylor Hamilton. All that, plus the Flava of the Week about Forward Health shutting down. What led to their sudden demise,...
GREATEST HITS: Solving Digital Health’s Passionate Problems (#370) 15.11.2024 34:29
This bonus episode is part of the Greatest Hits collection — episodes from the past 6 years that are just as relevant today. It was episode #160 and originally aired in May 2021. On this one, Jill McCormick shared some provocative thinking about solving what she refers to as digital health’s “passionate problems.” When we use human-centered design and then tie that work to digital transformation,...
Comparing Notes From HLTH & Sanford Health Conference (#369) 12.11.2024 33:35
We compare notes on two recent events they attended: Jared at HLTH, and Zain at Sanford Health’s Future of Rural Health event. All that, plus the Flava of the Week about more new research on consumers’ healthcare perceptions, this time from PWC. As we add this newest research to volumes of data over the years, and that data confirms trends that we’ve known all along, what will be the compelling ev...
GREATEST HITS: The Humanity Behind Healthcare Brands (#368) 09.11.2024 36:53
This bonus episode is part of the Greatest Hits collection — episodes from the past 6 years that are just as relevant today. It was episode #154 and it originally aired in March 2021. Katie Karatzas, Paul Caldera, and Drake Pusey join Jared and Zain for a rousing discussion about the magic that can happen when healthcare brand engagement meets human-centered design principles. In this episode, y...
HLTH ’24: 23andMe (#367) 05.11.2024 19:09
In the second episode recorded live at HLTH in Las Vegas, Jared speaks with Dr. Noura Abul-Husn, VP of Genomic Health at 23andMe. Noura shares an impressive list of ways that genetic profiles can lead consumers to a more preventive state of health, including many that you might not be aware of. All that, plus the Flava of the Week about the changing dynamics between physicians and patients. How s...
GREATEST HITS: VillageMD’s Roadmap for Healthcare at Home (#366) 31.10.2024 31:33
This bonus episode is part of the Greatest Hits collection — episodes from the past 6 years that are just as relevant today. It was episode #227 and it originally aired in August 2022. Dr. Thomas Cornwell, the National Medical Director of Village Medical at Home, joins hosts Jared Johnson and Zain Ismail to share why home-based healthcare has such a bright future ahead. Learn VillageMD’s vision f...
HLTH '24: NOOM and ASU Health (#365) 29.10.2024 29:32
In the first episode of their special series recorded live at HLTH 2024 in Las Vegas, Jared speaks with NOOM CEO Geoff Cook, their Chief Commercial Officer Cody Fair, and David Schwartz, Vice President of Strategic Alliances and Business Development at ASU Health. Both organizations are committed to consumer-driven innovation and have a vision for a healthier society. All that, plus the Flava of...
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