Passetto
GTM Live
GTM Live is a new evolution of Revenue Vitals by Chris Walker, now hosted by Carolyn Dilks & Trevor Gibson, Co-Founders of Passetto — a part tech, part advisory GTM agency for high-performing B2B SaaS companies. This weekly live show is built for CEOs, CFOs & Revenue Leaders who know the current way GTM is executed & measured is broken, and are ready for something better. We cut through the noise & ditch outdated playbooks. No fluff. No vanity metrics. Just honest, modern conversations about how to track & optimize GTM for what actually matters: unit economics, efficiency & long-term growth.
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Episodes
63 - Marketing is not Sales and Sales is not Marketing | Darryl Praill 03.10.2020 52:59
Chris interviewed Darryl Praill (CRO @ VanillaSoft) on State of Demand Gen this week to talk about marketing, sales, and where both sit in the organization. They discuss common frictions between the two teams, and how they can work together to achieve a shared goal...revenue. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Tired of just listening? Check out Refine...
62 - "Nurturing" Leads in Long Sales Cycles | Demand Gen Live S1 x28 30.09.2020 1:24:17
In the Season 1 Finale of Demand Gen Live, we had Gaetano DiNardi (Director of Growth Marketing, Nextiva) back to go through a stacked agenda. We covered: -Scaling a global demand team, -Why Enterprise companies don't publish pricing, -Hot takes on LinkedIn stories, -Why is it so hard to hire top demand gen talent?, and -Better ways to nurture "leads" in long s...
61 - Why Your Company Should Start a Podcast | Brands That Podcast w/ Erik Jacobson 28.09.2020 37:32
Erik Jacobson (CEO, Lemonpie) interviewed Chris Walker on "Brands That Podcast" to talk about Chris's thoughts on what most B2B companies are doing wrong in regards to leads and attribution. He also goes into detail about the State of Demand Gen podcast and how companies should be integrating podcasting and organic LinkedIn thought leadership into their marketing strategy. For more con...
60 - Focus on THEM, not You | Scott Rivers (Managing Partner, Cerca Talent+) 26.09.2020 40:57
Chris sat down with Scott Rivers (Managing Partner, Cerca Talent+) to talk about modern marketing. They touched on how to can get to a place with your marketing where you are allowing your buyers to learn about your product in the way that THEY want, as well as how to commit to, set expectations, and get buy-in throughout your organization when running a new experiment. For more content, subscribe...
59 - Facebook Ads in 2021 | Demand Gen Live S1 x27 23.09.2020 1:14:59
Gaetano DiNardi (Director of Growth Marketing, Nextiva) joined us once again for the 27th installment of Demand Gen Live. We covered: why overweight sales teams can get marketers stuck on the lead gen hamster wheel, why Facebook ads should remain in your 2021 marketing mix, and also hosted a live AMA and took questions from the attendees. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on...
58 - If You Want to Be Average, Outsource Your Content | Jonathan Beaton (VP Marketing, IntSights) 19.09.2020 54:47
Chris Walker was joined by Jonathan Beaton, VP of Marketing at IntSights, to talk through the marketing values they hold that go against the grain. They touched on how they got where they are today, how to stay ahead of the curve, performance marketing, outsourcing content, and modern PR. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Tired of just lis...
57 - Why Your Company Should Start a Podcast | Demand Gen Live S1 x26 16.09.2020 1:08:50
This installment of Demand Gen Live marks 6 months since we started the series on Zoom. We dove into why your company should seriously consider starting a podcast and did an in depth live paid social and search analysis of a B2B SaaS company. We concluded with a live Q&A and an incentivized challenge for our attendees. NOTE: The live B2B paid social & search breakdown was cut out from this...
56 - The E-Book is Dead | Alice de Courcy (CMO, Cognism) 12.09.2020 52:05
Chris Walker joined Alice de Courcy (CMO, Cognism) for a fireside chat about e-books. He shared his thoughts on what marketers should be channeling their time and energy into instead of the traditional e-book and suggests other methods of tracking past the initial download for those that still choose to produce them. Alice and Chris have differing thoughts on the use and effectiveness of the e-boo...
55 - The Growth at all Costs Mindset | Demand Gen Live S1 x25 09.09.2020 1:40:25
Over 50 marketers and sales folks gathered together on Zoom for Demand Gen Live this Tuesday. We were joined by Megan Bowen (CCO, Refine Labs) and discussed: The "growth at all costs" mindset; Why intelligent leaders stop innovating; ABM and Intent data - if and when to use both; and Why some CEOs resist investing in marketing. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on Spotify or Apple...
54 - Spend Your Budget Like It's Your Own Money | Champagne Strategy with John James 07.09.2020 1:13:59
Chris Walker joined John James on the Champagne Strategy podcast last week to talk about a wide range of topics across marketing, sales, and entrepreneurship. They covered: Why organizations invest heavily in sales headcount as a replacement for lack of demand, and what happens as a result thereof; What Chris's entrepreneurial background taught him about how people make purchasing decisions; How t...
53 - Stuck in the Metrics | Jason Widup (VP Marketing @ metadata.io) 05.09.2020 31:47
Jason Widup, VP of Marketing at metadata.io, joined us on State of Demand Gen to share his thoughts on marketing in 2020. We talked about how we define performance marketing and how it fits into the overall marketing strategy, why paid social isn’t an intent channel, and what happens when you are stuck in an endless cycle of measuring TOO much. For more content, subscribe to State of D...
52 - Identifying True Intent | Demand Gen Live S1 x24 02.09.2020 1:42:18
We broke the record for the longest Demand Gen Live to date on last night's installment. We discussed: What should my ROI be on Google Ads; How can you identify true intent; Partnership marketing strategies; Is NPS a metric worth considering; What to do when competitors play below the line; and a live Q&A. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. T...
51 - Top of Funnel Outreach with Josh Braun 28.08.2020 1:09:33
We hosted an event in early 2020 with Josh Braun in Miami, FL to talk about top of funnel outreach in B2B sales and marketing. Chris and Josh dove into how to get prospects to come knocking on your door and have your brand top of mind when they're ready to buy, as well as how to sell to prospects who may not know they have a problem you can solve. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen...
50 - Brand vs. Demand | Demand Gen Live S1 x23 26.08.2020 1:32:49
Megan Bowen (CCO, Refine Labs) joined us again on Demand Gen Live in Gaetano's place. We talked about: Other alternatives to the sales/marketing compensation divide, how Sales can better align with Marketing on an organic approach, go-to questions when conducting customer research, LinkedIn company page metrics, and separating marketing into brand and demand teams. For more content, subscribe to S...
49 - Demand Gen for Sales Leaders | Richard Harris 22.08.2020 51:49
Richard Harris, Founder of The Harris Consulting Group, came on the State of Demand Gen podcast today. We covered: What parallels appear in both the sales and marketing worlds; How measuring the things that don’t matter and don’t map to business results affects the sales org; What questions should a sales leader be asking to understand demand gen better; and Where the CRO role fits in the org char...
48 - When to Trust Your Gut vs. Your Data | Demand Gen Live S1 x22 19.08.2020 1:16:53
Gaetano DiNardi returns for this week's Demand Gen Live. We tackled the following topics: The brand halo effect, when to trust your gut instead of your data, and why you should develop content in-house. We hosted a 45 minute live Q&A following the previous topics. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Tired of just listening? Check out Refine Labs on...
47 - The No-Commission Sales Rep | Love Selling Hate Sales with Josh Wagner 15.08.2020 25:36
Chris Walker joined Josh Wagner on the Love Selling Hate Sales podcast. They talked about: balancing marketing with sales, where the balance lies between building relationships and hitting quotas, how to really get into your customers' shoes, and different trains of thought when it comes to sales rep compensation plans. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on Spotify or Apple Podcast...
46 - Should Content Marketing be Tied to Revenue? | Demand Gen Live S1 x21 12.08.2020 1:04:05
On last night's Demand Gen Live, Megan Bowen (CCO, Refine Labs) joined Chris Walker (CEO, Refine Labs) in Gaetano DiNardi's place. Over 50 marketers and sales folks joined the call and participated in a live Q&A. We covered: why brand marketing lowers CAC, what needs to change from a marketing and CX perspective with enterprise deals, should content marketing be tied to a revenue...
45 - Slow and Steady Wins the Race | Surf & Sales Podcast 08.08.2020 45:11
Chris joined the Surf & Sales podcast last week to go into depth on how his background and experiences at former companies shaped the work he does at Refine Labs. They went into depth about: Whether marketing is getting better at selling or sales is getting better at marketing; Why you can't have a short-term mindset with content marketing and thought leadership; and How attribution causes mar...
44 - The Predictability of Demand Gen | Demand Gen Live S1 x20 05.08.2020 1:18:32
Chris Walker (CEO, Refine Labs) and Gaetano DiNardi (Director of Demand Generation, Nextiva) hosted Demand Gen Live for the 20th week in a row. They focused on pre-submitted questions as they related to sales forecasting, LinkedIn video ads, growth hacks, and whether webinars are brand or performance. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Tired of just li...
43 - Attribution Doesn’t Tell the Full Story | ABM Conversations Podcast 04.08.2020 44:51
Chris joined Yaagneshwaren Ganesh and Manish Nepal on the ABM Conversations Podcast last week to share his thoughts on how attribution oftentimes misses the mark when being used to measure the results of content marketing, what marketers can do in place of trade-shows and in-person events, and why your best leads shouldn't be going to an SDR. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Ge...
42 - How Buyers ACTUALLY Buy | The Leadership Locker with Rich Cardona 31.07.2020 44:54
Chris joined Rich Cardona on The Leadership Locker to share his thoughts on how companies should be implementing a truly buyer-centric marketing and sales model. They discussed what product management can teach you about marketing, how to attract and educate your buyers instead of convincing them, and the benefits of pivoting to revenue marketing. For more content, subscribe to State of Dema...
41 - Should You Outsource Your Content Production? | Demand Gen Live S1 x19 29.07.2020 52:20
This week on Demand Gen Live we talked about the importance of qualitative metrics, why not to use LinkedIn Engagement Pods, gating content, and outsourced content production. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Tired of just listening? Check out Refine Labs on LinkedIn and YouTube.
40 - When Attribution Can't Connect the Dots | Demand Gen Live S1 x18 22.07.2020 1:11:22
On this week's Demand Gen Live, Chris Walker and Gaetano DiNardi jammed on...how to know if it is your campaign that is failing or your messaging, when attribution can't connect the dots, company profiles on LinkedIn, and key metrics to include in your reports to the board. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Tired of just listening? Check out Refine La...
39 - Hiring and Running a Business During a Pandemic | Amy Volas 21.07.2020 43:26
Amy Volas (Founder & CEO, Avenue Talent Partners) joined us on State of Demand Gen to talk about running a successful business during a pandemic, hiring misconceptions, and how to interpret blanket advice on LinkedIn. For more content, subscribe to State of Demand Gen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Tired of just listening? Check out Refine Labs on LinkedIn and YouTube.
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